I don't wish to be disparaging but sisi can suck my nuts.
I don't wish to be disparaging but sisi can suck my nuts.
[–]bam_strokerCaldari 6 points 18 hours ago
Your command of deliberate, convincingly bad English is amazing.
Mmm I kind of agree with you atm, recently I went on for the first time in a year or so and yeah it's definitely turned to absolute shit. A the time that I tested that fit (with ions instead) it wasn't too bad imo, often got nice fights against small groups of people that weren't all lolfit and being able to test fits again and again without the isk loss was quite nice when you're poor. Though of course it doesn't simulate a true combat environment, you could get kind of reliable feedback on fits as there were realistic fights every now and then you just had to die a lot and leave stations and gates out of the equation. However tbh I think the worst thing about it is the way for me, it sucked the fun out of getting blown up - when I logged onto TQ after sessioning SiSi all day there was just something special missing in the fights lol, I dunno it's hard to explain...It ruined the novelty I guess.Originally Posted by Lady Spank
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Never liked the plated/buffered/ Dual MAR Ishy because i think that everything it can did you can do it better in a BC.
You trade one of the major feature of HACs, like mobility and speed, for... dunno, just a little more speed, align time and res compared to an active Brutix or Myrm, worth it?
And with Crucible out the classic dual MAR+exp Hard Myrm can fit a full rack of med Balsters and do just a little less dps then an ishtar but with much more tank and buffer.
Thats why i wanna try a Kite setup, but i dont have t2 sentry and rely on drone for apply damage at 20km is just.... i' m trying to love this ship but i simply can t figure out why fly it over a Myrm.
Btw, what stop me more is the cost. I was checking Jita and it have the same price of a Gila, and a Cynabal cost only 30M more, fuuuuuuuuu.
Nanoing one is still worthless.
It doesn't have so much to do with the agility and speed of the ship, you're missing out on one HUGE difference.
Size.
The Ishtar is way smaller than a BC, and doesn't get raped by bombers.
If you think that is not a big deal, you haven't been playing very long.
You've simply missed the boat with nano. Fly the Gila and stop ruining the Ishtars name.
I quite literally got as close as possible as it is in eve to trading my ishtar in for a gila tonight. The extra mid and much higher EHP on the gila more than make up for the reduced "on paper" DPS...
The ishtar is still missing a niche.. It's still a jack of all trades and master of none and in eve that's a cardinal sin.
I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.
Nothing like being flexible and fitting into any situation, not as well as other ships but they may be much more focused and fall apart out of their niches.I quite literally got as close as possible as it is in eve to trading my ishtar in for a gila tonight. The extra mid and much higher EHP on the gila more than make up for the reduced "on paper" DPS...
The ishtar is still missing a niche.. It's still a jack of all trades and master of none and in eve that's a cardinal sin.
A good soloboat is able to deal with nearly any situation thrown at it (besides blobs).
Gallente boats seem to be much more suited to this with the drone focus, ishkur(less so but its the method>execution), vexor, myrm, Ishtar, domi, Eos.
Drunk post out ...
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I don't have played much at all, and the little i have is in losec, that' s why i didn' t see the size problem. Actually i think that i never runned into a small bomber gang.
Master of cheap gurista ratting
flying 5 ishtars at once crew checkin in
Master of cheap gurista ratting
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... don't worry about a thing, your Majesty; we're on our way.
You should link that epic pic againflying 5 ishtars at once crew checkin in
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Just trained up a Legion booster so Ishtar is now relevant to my interests...
Been a fan of dual prop so I figure it's like a deepsier, active-enabled SFI:
[Ishtar, HARM]
Damage Control II
Federation Navy 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates
Armor EM Hardener II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener
Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
10MN Afterburner II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Nosferatu II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
Figure this should be able to take on 2 BCs at once pretty comfortably. With the legion: 590dps. 75kehp (lg slaves). Nearly 2km/s overloaded. Reps 342 before heat. Nice little toy. Anyone care to disagree before I shell out?
willlllllll adama did a good ishtar video with a dual rep one.
try that out too
Except it's not.
For starters it's way way way slower, and way way way larger.
You're better suited to fitting a tracking disruptor if you're trying to avoid guns.
The great thing about the dp dr sfi is its tiny sig combined with effectiveness without links. The dp ishtar kind of relies on links to make it effective.
No I'm not a links hater, we don't need that discussion here.
[–]bam_strokerCaldari 6 points 18 hours ago
Your command of deliberate, convincingly bad English is amazing.
I did notice that. It's like a third slower and bigger. I've found the AB to be reeeally useful in the past though, if only for the "I'm scrammed but still making gate" factor. Plus it enables you to get to 500m if you've messed up your approach. Surely the AB is mitigating at least as much dps as a td? Plus it helps vs multiple targetsExcept it's not.
For starters it's way way way slower, and way way way larger.
You're better suited to fitting a tracking disruptor if you're trying to avoid guns.
If you're being shot from range, the AB isn't helping you at all.
The only time the AB is more useful is when you're fighting missile boats, and even then it's only at the BS level.
[Ishtar, Insanity]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Ogre II x5
Berserker II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5
I've been rolling with this lately and it's fuckin' ace. Just enough buffer so I don't feel quite so "seat of my pants" with the tanking, and plenty of tanking, cap is fine, and semifull tackle + solid deeps.
Guns are for knocking off drones in a ::dronewar:: situation, and neuts are for neuting out tackling frigs(haven't actually used these yet, but should theoretically work).
Roll it with mindlinked legion + anti-falcon falcon (does exactly what it sounds like) and you're good to solo/duo in peace (unless u hit a giant blob and diaf) =D
-Lords
With the 800 plate you're at 26.2k EHP
With a 400 you're at 21.8k EHP
With an EANM II you're at 19.5k EHP and 428 DPS repped before heat instead of 325 RPS (Repped Per Second... new term? \o/ )
With a smaller plate/EANM you can fit either Heavy Electron IIs or a Medium Neut + Medium Pulse Laser IIs.......... but the question is: do you have enough buffer without the 800 plate?
Ishtar needs more grid IMO.
Actually an '06.
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Downside to dual rep is that you really have a shit buffer and rely heavily on the cap.
You can run small guns and all, but I like using all my bonuses :3
You could try running say, a TD and d150 rails instead as it should fit
I don't want to ruin your day, but the term we call "tank" is in fact "EHP/Second" and "Rep/Second" is reffering to how many HP without calculating with resists. =P
There is no Such Thing as overkill only varying degrees of efficiency.
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