I love the Skyraider as much as anyone but it really is obsolete, the Super Tucano is not undergunned for it's role, far from it really, those 2x.50s are more than enough gun for COIN, they have enough penetration to deal with light makeshift bunkers or more or less any civilian-grade construction, if they turn out not to be enough then it has the rocket pods, 4 rockets pods is quite a few rockets tbh.
If the Super Tucano is going to find itself undergunned for an engagement you should probably be thinking about employing A-10s instead/ as well.
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Yes, the B52 would be an excellent CAS jet.. if it wasnt designed as a long range multi engined strategic bomber, and thus completely unsuited to the task of low level target acquisition and engagement.
Don't know what century you live in but 4x20mm (or a 30mm rotary, for that matter) only look cool on paper.
IRL these are dead weight unless you plan on repelling a chinese tank rush. And even then there are MRLS with anti-armor self-guided missiles.
In soviet russia CAS is about supporting light armor and infrantry.
And if i respond to your remark that if its all about big load outs, then the B52 is obviously CAS awesum - then im stupid AND smug.
Im not really sure what point is that you are trying to make? the A1 wasnt good because its load out is actually too much for CAS? The Turcano is better because its smaller/cheaper?
Herp a derp?Today, close support is typically carried out by fighter-bombers or dedicated ground attack aircraft, such as the A-10 Thunderbolt II Warthog or Sukhoi Su-25 Frogfoot, but even large high-altitude bombers can occasionally fill close support roles using precision guided munitions. During Operation Enduring Freedom, the lack of fighter aircraft forced military planners to rely heavily on US bombers, particularly the B-1B Lancer and B52H Stratofortress, to fill the CAS role. Bomber CAS, relying mainly on GPS guided weapons, has evolved into a devastating tactical employment methodology and has changed US doctrinal thinking regarding CAS in general. After the initial collapse of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, airfields in Afghanistan became available for continuing operations against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. This resulted in the majority of CAS operations being undertaken by aircraft from Belgium (F-16 Fighting Falcon), Denmark (F-16), France (Mirage 2000D), the Netherlands (F-16), Norway (F-16), the United Kingdom (Harrier GR7s,GR9s and Tornado GR4s) and the United States (A-10, F-16, AV-8B Harrier II, F-15E Strike Eagle, F/A-18 Hornet, F/A-18 Super Hornet, UH-1Y).
Close Air Support = shit falling from the skies in proximity to friendly forces.
An assault plane is supposed to be small and have just enough presents on board for immediate threats. And in Brasil that is a dozen of hungry negroes in a jungle.
Everything else can be dealt with dedicated frontline bombers and anti-armor choppers.
A-1 may look like a good idea but it's too slow for it's size.
While Tucano is: small, a two-seater, turboprop.
Well why didnt you say so 3 posts ago....
5 niggers with AKs = lightly armed, fast turboprop.
anything else = $25k JDAM
Spad is still cooler though.
Must be nice to have a big bubble canopy like that and I bet it's nice to fly.
Last edited by Frug; July 4 2012 at 04:23:10 PM.
Originally Posted by Loire
Motherland did drones before it was cool.
The Tu-123 was a development of the proposed Tupolev Tu-121 supersonic nuclear-armed cruise missile program. After the cancellation of that project in favor of ballistic missiles, the design was modified for a high altitude reconnaissance role.
Nowadays it's all tactical though:
Supposed to give intel to artillery units.
The US had something similar in the D-21 before we realized that it was p shit and that satellites were better:
Peashooter was interwar not WWII.
The Starfighter was used in testing the first fly by wire setups because it was so stable and flew so well. They had to strap fuck-off huge lead weights and extra wingy bits to it to make it less stable.
Luftwaffe was just an under-trained, under-funded joke then.
God bless Wikipedia.
Makes up for all its failings with a cool name (and the fact it killed its own German pilots)