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    But islamism IS a product of class warfare. Rich white countries come into developing brown dictatorships, wreck the leadership, infrastructure and economy and then act all surprised that religious fanaticism is on the rise.
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    Wasnt that the point of the F35?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Wasnt that the point of the F35?
    Apart from F16 it was supposed to replace
    Hornets - still evaluating
    Harrier - successful as no other options really
    Eagle - fail, F-15EX are rolling out
    Warthog - ahahahah lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Wasnt that the point of the F35?
    Apart from F16 it was supposed to replace
    Hornets - still evaluating
    Harrier - successful as no other options really
    Eagle - fail, F-15EX are rolling out
    Warthog - ahahahah lmao
    What exactly does the F-35 achieve other than making the defense industry really bloated, because there is no country on earth that will be fighting large scale wars with this shit anytime soon. The only things the planes are used for is bombing people with small arms on the ground, so the F-35 and F-22 are impressive wastes of resources.

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    I will have to play the devil's advocate here.

    F-22 was rolling out of the 80s super-fighter program, in the 90s they figured it might as well replace F-15s but by late 00s F-35 has reached "low rate initial production" and it could throw JDAMs just as easily at hopefully much lower cost. That's the sane part.


    To understand where everything went wrong you have to watch pentagon wars because it's basically the same shit but from the developer's side
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_...ighter_program

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Wasnt that the point of the F35?
    Apart from F16 it was supposed to replace
    Hornets - still evaluating
    Harrier - successful as no other options really
    Eagle - fail, F-15EX are rolling out
    Warthog - ahahahah lmao
    What exactly does the F-35 achieve other than making the defense industry really bloated, because there is no country on earth that will be fighting large scale wars with this shit anytime soon. The only things the planes are used for is bombing people with small arms on the ground, so the F-35 and F-22 are impressive wastes of resources.
    The primary aim of modern warfare (in accordance with the principles of doublethink, this aim is simultaneously recognised and not recognised by the directing brains of the Inner Party) is to use up the products of the machine without raising the general standard of living. Ever since the end of the nineteenth century, the problem of what to do with the surplus of consumption goods has been latent in industrial society. At present, when few human beings even have enough to eat, this problem is obviously not urgent, and it might not have become so, even if no artificial processes of destruction had been at work.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    because there is no country on earth that will be fighting large scale wars with this shit anytime soon. The only things the planes are used for is bombing people with small arms on the ground,
    While objectively true, a military that prepares just for that is destined to fail.

    This thinking lead to the current state of the Bundeswehr. The military doesn't have a lobby in Germany to begin with and the end of the Cold War along with the NATO memberships of Poland and the Czech lead to the idea in German politics that the Bundeswehr isn't needed. There are quite a few people that are in favor of dissolving our military right now with no replacement.

    After all, we are surrounded by allies/friends. /s

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    Our presence in Afghanistan doesn't make the news unless a German soldier dies (rare enough, thankfully), German soldiers kill civilians (rare as well) and whether the mission needs to be extended. Where the argument often is whether to extend it, not whether to provide the troops with he right tools. German soldiers rely on the US Air Force for air support of all types as we have none there beyond a few utility helicopters.

    Our mission in Mali, the largest current deployment, is not on the news at all.

    Ever since the Cold War the German defense budget was the first to see cuts. If you ever wondered where Germany saved money when talking about austerity, it was there (and education and infrastructure in certain regions).

    Germany sends a mechanized brigade to the NATO Very High Readiness Joint Task Force that was created following Russia's invasion of Crimea.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Response_Force
    Germany's brigade has to scrounge equipment from all over the Bundeswehr (not just the army, but air force and navy as well) for equipment. Three years ago they had to get 15,000 items from other units, including IFVs.
    It has been reported that only four Eurofighters are even flight worthy at times. None of our maritime patrol aircraft is flight worthy. Not every German ship that should have a helicopter has one.

    And so on.

    /rant

    The war this winter in Artsakh/Karabakh was a rude awakening. Drones were the deciding factor in the fight. And Turkey provided heavy support to Azerbaijan. These small scale wars can happen in a lot of places and we will have participation of larger powers on one or the other side. Then you won't be just bombing goat herders. Just because the Soviet Union isn't around anymore doesn't mean you don't have proxy wars.

    BTW. Japan is increasing its military readiness after two days of Chinese Coast Guard incursions.

    https://warisboring.com/japan-on-hig...rd-incursions/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    The war this winter in Artsakh/Karabakh was a rude awakening. Drones were the deciding factor in the fight. And Turkey provided heavy support to Azerbaijan. These small scale wars can happen in a lot of places and we will have participation of larger powers on one or the other side. Then you won't be just bombing goat herders. Just because the Soviet Union isn't around anymore doesn't mean you don't have proxy wars.

    BTW. Japan is increasing its military readiness after two days of Chinese Coast Guard incursions.

    https://warisboring.com/japan-on-hig...rd-incursions/
    If anything, you will start to see more of them. Conflict between Islam and Hinduism is on the rise again in South Asia too.
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    My point exactly.

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    A French Rafale was flying a little to low. It cut 3 power line in southern France. A village of 300 had no power for 3 hours.
    The plane was on a low altitude penetration flight training for nuclear strike.


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    Razor cannot into f-35.

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    Those triple-sevens has got some thicc engines

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    But islamism IS a product of class warfare. Rich white countries come into developing brown dictatorships, wreck the leadership, infrastructure and economy and then act all surprised that religious fanaticism is on the rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Those triple-sevens has got some thicc engines

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