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    [devpost] more combat frigates

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Fozzie
    Hello again Features & Ideas. Today we're going to be showing you the current designs for the last three revamped Combat Frigates, set for release this winter.

    Many of you will have guessed that the Amarr weren't going to remain the only race with two Combat Frigates. Having the Punisher and Tormentor representing different combat styles within the same general use case is a pattern we want to repeat with the other races, so we're revamping the Kestrel, Tristan and Breacher.

    You will also see that the direction we're going with these frigs means that our plans have changed somewhat since the dev blog a few months ago.

    Without further ado, here's the ships we have to show you today!

    Kestrel:
    Frigate skill bonuses:
    5% Bonus to Missile damage per level
    10% Bonus to Missile velocity per level
    Slot layout: 4 H, 4 M (+1), 2 L, 4 launchers
    Fittings: 45 PWG (+15), 180 CPU (+30)
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 500(+109) / 350(+37) / 350 (+84)
    Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 330 (+80)/ 165s (-22.5s)/ 2 (+0.667)
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 320 (+24) / 3.27(-0.6) / 1163000 / 3.56s (-0.65)
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km (+10) / 620 (+155) / 5 (+2)
    Sensor strength: 11 Gravimetric
    Signature radius: 38 (-9)
    Cargo capacity: 160 (-145)


    Tristan:
    Frigate skill bonuses:
    7.5% Bonus to Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level
    10% Bonus to Drone tracking speed and hitpoints per level
    Slot layout: 3 H (-1), 3 M, 3 L, 2 turrets, 0 launchers (-2)
    Fittings: 35 PWG (-3), 130 CPU (+5)
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 350(-41) / 450(+20) / 550 (+167)
    Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 350 / 175s (-59.38s)/ 2 (+0.5)
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 310 (+4) / 3.44 (-0.21) / 1106000 (+100000) / 3.56s (-0.02)
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 (+20) / 40 (+35)
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 40km (+12.5) / 600 (+10) / 5
    Sensor strength: 9 Magnetometric
    Signature radius: 41 (-1)
    Cargo capacity: 140


    Breacher:
    Frigate skill bonuses:
    5% Bonus to Missile damage per level
    7.5% Bonus to Shield boost amount per level
    Slot layout: 3 H (-1), 4 M (+2), 3 L (+1), 3 launchers, 0 Turrets (-1)
    Fittings: 35 PWG (+4), 180 CPU (+45)
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 500(+149) / 350(+37) / 300 (+50)
    Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 300 (+112.5)/ 150s (+9.37s)/ 2 (+0.667)
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 350 (+16) / 3.16 (-0.62) / 1087000 (-100000) / 3.21s (-0.99)
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 10 (+10) / 10 (+10)
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 35km (+2.5) / 650 (+75) / 4 (+1)
    Sensor strength: 8 Ladar
    Signature radius: 36 (-5)
    Cargo capacity: 175
    Like I said, some plans have changed in the past few months. The Navitas will be in the last set of frigates we reveal, but it's no longer planned as a drone damage frigate.

    I'm looking forward to that last reveal most of all. Running the latest design past the CSM now, will get it to you asap.
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    Tristan:
    Frigate skill bonuses:
    7.5% Bonus to Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level
    10% Bonus to Drone tracking speed and hitpoints per level
    Slot layout: 3 H (-1), 3 M, 3 L, 2 turrets, 0 launchers (-2)
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    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 (+20) / 40 (+35)
    Whoah now, holy, love it. WTB NAO!!! Curious what the Navitas will become. Hopefully something usefull, as I like the hull's design

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    holy fuck i like the tristan a lot
    fuck all fat nerds

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Fozzie
    Kestrel:
    Cargo capacity: 160 (-145)
    My 2 cycle cyno ship backbone.

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    10% Bonus to Drone tracking speed and hitpoints per level
    Drone tracking? Since when did light drones need tracking?

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    it's a stealth drone damage bonus. the ship will be flexing in the frig raping regions now
    fuck all fat nerds

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Fozzie
    Kestrel:
    Cargo capacity: 160 (-145)
    My 2 cycle cyno ship backbone.
    scrub without cyno 5 spotted
    fuck all fat nerds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amantus View Post
    holy fuck i like the tristan a lot
    Drone Tristan best Tristan. I actually nearly cried when they initially announced they were going to go full missiles on it. Keep your dirty filthy missiles away from my Gallente ships!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amantus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 25 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Fozzie
    Kestrel:
    Cargo capacity: 160 (-145)
    My 2 cycle cyno ship backbone.
    scrub without cyno 5 spotted
    Hard to keep alt below 900k sp with Cyno 5.

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    Hmm, I wonder if the ishkur will get repurposed as a tristan hull or a new t2 tristan hull will get mad drone skills.

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    Why does the tristan only have 9 slots, where the others have 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hehulk View Post
    Why does the tristan only have 9 slots, where the others have 10
    i'd say thats the missing highslot that went away in favor for 25m³ drone bandwith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hehulk View Post
    Why does the tristan only have 9 slots, where the others have 10
    The drone damage more than makes up for it.

    Also lolbreacher... MASB breacher is a go?
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    i am the only one who is sad the tristan didnt become a rocket demon? it made sense from the t1->t2 progression since obviously you need some sort of "missile control cpu" to be suitable for the nemesis...but also because it would at least make all races equal on the "start" ....while showing their differences later on on the cruiser and up...

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    The changes look pretty good to me, although I am kinda bothered that the kestral is more mobile & has better scan res then the tristan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    The changes look pretty good to me, although I am kinda bothered that the kestral is more mobile & has better scan res then the tristan.
    The tristan isn't hydrodynamic as the kestrel. Because you know, :subsimulator: .

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    5x hobgoblin II = 4201.6 eHP
    5x hobgoblin II with bonus = 6302.5 eHP

    8x hobgoblin II with bonus = 10083.84 eHP

    plus whatever RR you wish to plug into that utility high vOv

    going 660m/s @ 25m sig


    okok so it's only 7k eHP when using warriors

    buff small (and medium) smarties plz

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoemySchneider View Post
    5x hobgoblin II = 4201.6 eHP
    5x hobgoblin II with bonus = 6302.5 eHP

    8x hobgoblin II with bonus = 10083.84 eHP

    plus whatever RR you wish to plug into that utility high vOv

    going 660m/s @ 25m sig


    okok so it's only 7k eHP when using warriors

    buff small (and medium) smarties plz
    Nerf roemy posting plz

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    it's true; it's just too powerful

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    Breacher looks hilarious. 10m3 drones + 3x rockets isn't that much DPS. But if you could get a MASB on it, you could tank like a dualrep Incursus with almost as much damage, only neut proof (while you have charges anyway, but if you live longer than 40seconds in a t1 frigate you had a good run). And Breacher is probably seen way more as a 'lol' ship than Incursus is.

    Tristan looks awesome as a Rails+Drones kiter.
    Last edited by Suitonia; August 17 2012 at 03:14:47 AM.

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