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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    That's a little better, but Techron is literally the best.

    Also go out and a get a bottle of this


    Add about 1/2 of a quart each time you change your oil and your engine will love you for a long time. Bit pricy, but totally worth it; its a big part of why my last beemer had over 700k miles, and still ran beautifully.
    OMG, these things are literally definition of snake oil. They do absolutely nothing, (unless you have a classic car that require leaded gasoline). Any gasoline sold by all major petrol manufacturers already contains all necessary detergents (which are much better than obsolete polyetheramine used in Techron).

    Same thing with oil additives. Tufoil contains PTFE (polytetrafluoroethylene, i.e Teflon®), which is a fucking solid polymer, which needs to be dispersed in the oil with surfactants in order not to precipitate out. If you have a non-shitty oil filter, this PTFE suspension will be filtered out before it reaches the engine. Which is a good thing, because last thing you need in your fucking oil are the fucking solid particles floating around and gumming up shit. Any decent car manufacturer will immediately void your warranty if they find out that you've been using oil additive (which is easily done by running few analytical tests on filters and oil)

    Tufoil (and other similar shit like STP or Slick50) was made for retards who think that if they have Teflon on their non-stick skillet, it would work just as well in the engine.

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    Sorry don't but I value your word on automobiles less than Porsche does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Sorry don't but I value your word on automobiles less than Porsche does
    I wasn't talking to you.

    You obviously get your automotive knowledge from talking cars.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Rumata View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Sorry don't but I value your word on automobiles less than Porsche does
    I wasn't talking to you.
    Who exactly do you think actually listens to you?

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    LAPD evaluates Tesla Model S as a police cruiser...

    Tesla is working with the agency "to assess the vehicle's performance in our environment and to learn what are the drawbacks and positives of this type of vehicle in our fleet operation. Not only on the regular transportation side, but also the future in the high-pursuit-rated vehicle arena."
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/11/tesla...er-market.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Rumata View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    That's a little better, but Techron is literally the best.

    Also go out and a get a bottle of this


    Add about 1/2 of a quart each time you change your oil and your engine will love you for a long time. Bit pricy, but totally worth it; its a big part of why my last beemer had over 700k miles, and still ran beautifully.
    OMG, these things are literally definition of snake oil. They do absolutely nothing, (unless you have a classic car that require leaded gasoline). Any gasoline sold by all major petrol manufacturers already contains all necessary detergents (which are much better than obsolete polyetheramine used in Techron).

    Same thing with oil additives. Tufoil contains PTFE (polytetrafluoroethylene, i.e Teflon®), which is a fucking solid polymer, which needs to be dispersed in the oil with surfactants in order not to precipitate out. If you have a non-shitty oil filter, this PTFE suspension will be filtered out before it reaches the engine. Which is a good thing, because last thing you need in your fucking oil are the fucking solid particles floating around and gumming up shit. Any decent car manufacturer will immediately void your warranty if they find out that you've been using oil additive (which is easily done by running few analytical tests on filters and oil)

    Tufoil (and other similar shit like STP or Slick50) was made for retards who think that if they have Teflon on their non-stick skillet, it would work just as well in the engine.

    I'll bite.

    It's a 22 year old engine, owner claims he regularly swapped all filters.
    Never the less I figured why not try to clear the fuel lines or injection nozzles of any gunk or shit.

    Maybe it'll do nothing.
    Certainly won't harm the engine.

    Maybe it'll actually and measurably improve the fuel injection and power delivery.

    On fifth gear it did improve an old Corrado's dyno performance by like 8hp or something.



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    I'm not expecting anything. I had to grab some other stuff at the shop, remembered the fifth gear skit and bought the liqui moly gasoline injection cleaner für die lulz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    I'll bite.

    It's a 22 year old engine, owner claims he regularly swapped all filters.
    Never the less I figured why not try to clear the fuel lines or injection nozzles of any gunk or shit.

    Maybe it'll do nothing.
    Certainly won't harm the engine.

    Maybe it'll actually and measurably improve the fuel injection and power delivery.

    On fifth gear it did improve an old Corrado's dyno performance by like 8hp or something.
    If course it will improve dyno perfromance. Half of it is light petroleum distillates, another half is Stoddart solvent (otherwise known as turpentine or paint thinner).

    You're effectively increasing the octane rating of the fuel inside your tank. This is like eating nothing but cheezburgers for 22 years straight, and then ordering a Diet Coke once.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    I had to grab some other stuff at the shop, remembered the fifth gear skit and bought the liqui moly gasoline injection cleaner für die lulz.
    I suggest to buy this then.

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    It wont harm the engine, but it will also do nothing to convince people otherwise. For extra points, you can shove that bottle of Techron up your ass (not coincidentally, it has a very suitable shape for that).
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    Jokes on you because I didn't buy any Redex or Techron.



    Quote Originally Posted by Don Rumata View Post

    If course it will improve dyno perfromance. Half of it is light petroleum distillates, another half is Stoddart solvent (otherwise known as turpentine or paint thinner).

    You're effectively increasing the octane rating of the fuel inside your tank. This is like eating nothing but cheezburgers for 22 years straight, and then ordering a Diet Coke once.
    Also, from the comments:

    Eventually the car nearly produced the full 190 bhp - what the footage didn't state was that the car was run on 95 RON unleaded rather than Super Unleaded which the car requires to produce full power - this was done to avoid clouding the effectiveness of the Redex injector treatment as Super Unleaded fuel contains similar cleaning properties.

    Don Rumata Status: Fucking #Rekt


    I'll accept +Reparations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Also, from the comments:

    Eventually the car nearly produced the full 190 bhp - what the footage didn't state was that the car was run on 95 RON unleaded rather than Super Unleaded which the car requires to produce full power - this was done to avoid clouding the effectiveness of the Redex injector treatment as Super Unleaded fuel contains similar cleaning properties.

    Don Rumata Status: Fucking #Rekt
    Do you even understand what you just quoted, you cretin? It basically confirms what I was saying: Techron, Redex, STP, whatever are just octane boosters.

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    Do you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Do you ?
    Why don't you explain it to me? Apparently, YouTube comment section is your level of expertise.

    You know, never mind. Let me explain to you in simple terms, so hopefully it is get trough your thick Austrian skull.

    Eventually the car nearly produced the full 190 bhp
    It did not. They state it produced 183.4HP (see below)

    They state further:
    what the footage didn't state was that the car was run on 95 RON unleaded rather than Super Unleaded which the car requires to produce full power
    So right from the beginning they admit that they ran it at lower octane rating than VW recommends.

    this was done to avoid clouding the effectiveness of the Redex injector treatment as Super Unleaded fuel contains similar cleaning properties.
    This means that if they run Super Unleaded (RON 97) instead, Redex would make no difference.

    It gets better from there. They clearly state "We will do the test eight times and take the highest figure" (WTF?!). The screen at 1:56 shows the run-to-run variability between 164 and 183 HP
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    164.1
    172.0
    176.3
    178.6
    181.1
    181.7
    183.4
    177.8

    They then compare the "before" value (177.5), with the highest measured (183.4).

    However, the average of the above eight runs is 176.9. That means that addition of Redex at best did not do anything, or actually made it worse.
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    Why bother, watch the full video and read the entire comments yourself.

    The car was rolling road tested at our premises to get a base reading after which some Redex injector cleaner was added to a full tank of fuel. After this tank was used, the car was taken to Millbrook Proving Ground where it was rolling road tested again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Why bother, watch the full video and read the entire comments yourself.

    The car was rolling road tested at our premises to get a base reading after which some Redex injector cleaner was added to a full tank of fuel. After this tank was used, the car was taken to Millbrook Proving Ground where it was rolling road tested again.
    Read what I wrote, you imbecile. It shows right there that HP did not increase.

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    Cool story bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Cool story bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by F18 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Cool story bro

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    Don is actually right. They intentionally used shitty gas because regular has has the same detergents as the engine cleaner product as well as the proper octane rating. So using standard gas, there would have been no difference.

    It's fun to shit on don and all, but get your facts straight before you get all "lol #rekt"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool09 View Post
    Don is actually right. They intentionally used shitty gas because regular has has the same detergents as the engine cleaner product as well as the proper octane rating. So using standard gas, there would have been no difference.

    It's fun to shit on don and all, but get your facts straight before you get all "lol #rekt"
    Perhaps they chose 95 because thats close to the max you can get at the pump in the US; Sunoco 94 to be exact, and else wheres. I mean top gear has more international viewers overall than they do in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cool09 View Post
    Don is actually right. They intentionally used shitty gas because regular has has the same detergents as the engine cleaner product as well as the proper octane rating. So using standard gas, there would have been no difference.

    It's fun to shit on don and all, but get your facts straight before you get all "lol #rekt"
    Perhaps they chose 95 because thats close to the max you can get at the pump in the US; Sunoco 94 to be exact, and else wheres. I mean top gear has more international viewers overall than they do in the UK.
    Or perhaps you are a fucking idiot and don't know that you cannot directly compare US and EU gasoline ratings.

    EU uses RON (Research Octane Number) and US/Canada uses AKI (Anti-Knock Index = (RON+MON) /2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Rumata View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cool09 View Post
    Don is actually right. They intentionally used shitty gas because regular has has the same detergents as the engine cleaner product as well as the proper octane rating. So using standard gas, there would have been no difference.

    It's fun to shit on don and all, but get your facts straight before you get all "lol #rekt"
    Perhaps they chose 95 because thats close to the max you can get at the pump in the US; Sunoco 94 to be exact, and else wheres. I mean top gear has more international viewers overall than they do in the UK.
    Or perhaps you are a fucking idiot and don't know that you cannot directly compare US and EU gasoline ratings.

    EU uses RON (Research Octane Number) and US/Canada uses AKI (Anti-Knock Index = (RON+MON) /2)
    And 95 Ron is approximately equivalent to premium grade in the US

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