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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    Group B when?
    Never.

    That era is gone forever. People are different. Cars now are not about speed and control, they are about checking your Facebook likes while riding on autopilot in your $100k Tesla.

    That guy at the end of the above video, grabbing his head in sheer amazement as an S1 Quattro screams past him?

    Now people will see an S1 and will be grabbing their head exclaiming "Look at that terrible air-polluting ICE monster!!!"
    Oh fuck off. Group B was special but utterly fucking retarded is why it died, and it has nothing to do with any of the idiocy you posted above.
    Group B died because too many people died, Audi quit, and FIA banned it

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    Yes, what did I say? The "utterly fucking retarded" bit is that.

    It was ridiculous with lax safety rules, sponsors and sports generally don't enjoy their drivers and spectators dying. Shocking, I know.

    It won't ever happen again because it was beyond fucking dumb. Nothing to do with Don's REEEEE MILLENIALS wank diarrhea above.
    But what if I put some protective clothes on?

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    In light of what Baarhyn is doing, this is the other side of the "buying an RX7" coin. Getting them "cheap" is an awful awful idea.



    Man that's some ridiculous amounts of shit in there, didn't even realize how ridiculously complicated FDs were.

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    I've seen a couple of those guys YouTube videos and there cool but alot of Shit talk, went and watched the FC episode and he "had" a t56 init but pulled it out cos the 13b turns 9 grand where as the ls turned to just 6.....
    As to lol-burnouts in a rotary. they gained some credit back for showing it just doing some circles to try and get it cool.
    Nice car tho

    https://youtu.be/v8yMQ_aAvxo


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    Quote Originally Posted by tighten View Post
    I've seen a couple of those guys YouTube videos and there cool but alot of Shit talk, went and watched the FC episode and he "had" a t56 init but pulled it out cos the 13b turns 9 grand where as the ls turned to just 6.....
    As to lol-burnouts in a rotary. they gained some credit back for showing it just doing some circles to try and get it cool.
    Nice car tho

    https://youtu.be/v8yMQ_aAvxo


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    I mean, rotary doesn't make any real practical sense when you already have an LS, at all. He just liked the idea of going to a rotary, as is pretty much anyone who runs a rotary. There is no real reason to, it's kind of why they're pmuch dead. :P


    I simply wasn't having fun with the V8 in the Twerkstallion anymore, so I swapped that out for a 13b-rew just for fun. My first drift car was rotary powered in 2007, so I figured fuck it, let's go back to that!
    Goes sideways nicely.

    Speaking of rotaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    In light of what Baarhyn is doing, this is the other side of the "buying an RX7" coin. Getting them "cheap" is an awful awful idea.



    Man that's some ridiculous amounts of shit in there, didn't even realize how ridiculously complicated FDs were.
    Well I got mine "cheap" too, paid 12500 can$ for it, and spent about 6000 can$ in parts since last year. The big factor is that i'm doing the work myself, having it done by the only shop in town would have rounded that up to about 10k instead of 6k.

    it's pretty easy, a running semi stock exemple that won't fuck you over in the first 6 months is 18-20k can, a well sorted but not perfect car is 20-25k and well modified and sorted one is 25-30k. I got in on the cheap side with sweat and effort, mine is probably worth 20-22k right now and with a bit more effort i'd move toward 25k. the step up after that is cosmetic and beautification.

    Problem is, there ain't many buyer at those prices.

    And yeah, buying a stock one is a receipe for disaster except if you have extensive receipt from a reputable rotary shop to back it up. Mazda doesn't do good work on them either so I wouldn't trust a car that was serviced at the dealer it's whole life.

    Also update on the video, I need to fix my exhaust leak before I take a video, right now it's about 15% too loud for comfortable driving. It sound close to those videos you can find on youtube of rotaries with dump pipes.

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    Solid poasting scenes.

    Yeah that piece of shit in the video was sub 7k usd afaik and seems like it's gonna cost a lot more to repair. At least the dudes have connections and a full shop lol..

    And I'm not surprised Mazda wouldn't be great at it either, old car and engine that's super niche so not many know how to work on them. I'd love to own one eventually but if it's Europe I'd be terrified of getting work on it, doubt many shops who know shit about them exist. Sigh. Good thing there are more conventional fun cars on the shortlist too.

    Know much about what the differences between an fc and fd are? I'd hope the older one is less complicated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Solid poasting scenes.

    Yeah that piece of shit in the video was sub 7k usd afaik and seems like it's gonna cost a lot more to repair. At least the dudes have connections and a full shop lol..

    And I'm not surprised Mazda wouldn't be great at it either, old car and engine that's super niche so not many know how to work on them. I'd love to own one eventually but if it's Europe I'd be terrified of getting work on it, doubt many shops who know shit about them exist. Sigh. Good thing there are more conventional fun cars on the shortlist too.

    Know much about what the differences between an fc and fd are? I'd hope the older one is less complicated?
    FC's are much less complicated even with the turbo engine. the main cause for complexity in the FD is the twin turbo control, and emissions related stuff (there is an EGR pump, secondary air pump and dual throttle control and a few other things all working with vaccum). To be honest, if you don't have to pass mechanical inspection you can delete all that shit and run a stock setup with a non sequential conversion really reliably on an fd. If you have good compression and the engine isn't drinking coolant you're about 25 hours of pretty easy work away from a nice reliable car. All you need is good turbos, good engine block, an aftermarket ECU and a bunch of block off plates. all the stock mechanical parts are reliable, it's the electronics and the vaccum shit that is terrible. take that out and you have a nicely working car that's not too complicated.

    But for FCs, they are much cheaper cause they are plentiful, and it's a very uncomplicated car. They are kind of the black sheep because they are less powerful than FD's and heavier than FB's but as a fun weekend cruiser they are known for a reliable and easy to work on engine couple with great handling.

    Do not get an automatic, do not get a soft top. If you have a garage, taking the engine out is a one man and like 2 hours affair, it's a really easy car to work on. parts are pretty easy to come by since they where pretty common except for interior plastic pieces. Those are hard to find in good shape and expensive.

    A clean turbo II FC is worth bout 8-10k canadian with pristine examples going for like 12k. A rough runner is going to go for 5-8k and a beater is 5 and below. NA FC's are very underpowered, but they are exceedingly cheap. a real good example is 4-6k tops.

    To be honest, NA's are what you buy when you'd like a miata but you find them boring. Turbo's are more of a niche/collector car with some decent power.

    Turbo engines are also very very mod friendly. The rotor they have is stronger than FD rotors and also lower compression. High boost 3 and 4 rotor engines tend to use turbo II rotors for those reasons. You can get some pretty impressive numbers out of those blocks if you want to boost 20 pounds.

    So yeah, if you have a garage or a driveway + work space at home they are really nice cars to learn wrenching on rotaries and honestly at this point they'll probably start gaining value like MK3 supras so at the bare minimum you won't kill your retirement fund with one.

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    Yeah been observing some nice samples on the Italian used market, seems to be about 10 to 12k eur for pristine cars. Which keeping in mind it s Europe it doesn't sound too bad. Thanks for the tips, I almost prefer the fc tbh.

    I suppose vs a miata they are also cooler, rarer and less prone to be ridiculed. And as a moderately tall guy probably easier to fit into.

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    I would have thought compression is king for rotors as they don't ping

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    Quote Originally Posted by tighten View Post
    I would have thought compression is king for rotors as they don't ping

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    with boost you don't want high compression. They do knock as you can get pre-ignition. See the damage on a highly boosted rotor that had pretty severe pre ignition:



    That's from the teardown of Rob Dahm's three rotor.

    From mazdatrix faq on rotor specs:



    First row is the rotors i'm talking about, 300 grams heavier with a 8.5 compression ratio compared to the 9.0 of the TT version. I've circled the Renesis (RX-8) engine too to give you a correlation. the renesis engine is exceedingly difficult under boost, Mazda gave it a very high compression ratio to dodge turbos, make power and lower emissions, but the high compression makes it terrible at taking boost as it will kill apex seal right quick in a hurry over like 5 psi.

    the beauty is that every rotor that fit inside a 13b is basically interchangeable. They are also interchangeable with 20b rotors as the 20b use 13b housings with a different middle plate with a bearing housing for the crackshaft. So custom made 20b's are basically a frankenstein of a 13b front plate, three 13b housing with old s5 turbo II rotors, one 13b middle plate, one special 20b middle plate, one special 20b crank and a regular 13b back plate.

    So you keep compression low to push high boost.

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    Engineering Explained did a good job on the subject of compression, knock and also efficiency of turbocharged engines recently.


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    Had some issues with hot restarts - when properly blazed and 30C+ outside, turning off and then restarting the engine afterwards it would sometimes stall when the RPM dips <600 until closed loop settles.
    Jan @ sps did some remote Teamviewer MEITE magic and so far it looks like it's fixed.



    No stalling yay!


    Cold starts are still a bit funky but we'll hopefully tackle that next. There's some slight hesitation or "judder" at very low throttle during the first minute or two after coldstarts.
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    Porsche 935 Flachbau, modern edition:


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    Mechanical porn through and through.

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    1:8 scale model of Porsche 919.





    100 units limited run, 4 pieces still left. Only $14,689 each.

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    inb4 don rage

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