Rusty/Shiny Automotive Porn Appreciation Thread

[Zeekar]

Yes, this would be my first RWD car, but fear not, I'm a very conservative driver. I never pushed my Altima or C300 in anything other than acceleration. No cornering, no drifting, no powersliding, no testing the handling on a wet road. That said...

Every 2022 GR86 comes with a complimentary 1-year membership to the National Auto Sport Association (NASA). GR86 owners will enjoy a host of benefits, including one free High Performance Driving Event (HPDE) and discounted admission to NASA-sanctioned events.

I will be utilizing this.

Wait is your C300 awd? Standard is RWD.

Start a bit slow but truth be told there isnt THAT much of a difference between a rwd and fwd... Except one is fun in the snow and the other not so much

[Nordstern]

Yes, the C300 is AWD. Really useful this time of year.

[Cosmin]

Start a bit slow but truth be told there isnt THAT much of a difference between a rwd and fwd... Except one is fun in the snow and the other not so much

There's an absolutely huge difference between RWD and FWD, what are you on about, unless your FWD car model is less than 100bhp. The torque steering is quite the issue and moving on to a RWD car feels like the steering wheel is handled by angels.

Granted there are a lot of arcane ways that car manufacturers have reduced torque steering on their FWD high powered models but it still feels quite intense when you're putting more than 200bhp through the front wheels.

[Cosmin]

Yes, the C300 is AWD. Really useful this time of year.

Having owned a rather old Mercedes I'm pretty sure your experience would have been similar with the RWD variant. Their power delivery/stability/ABS systems are absolutely insane - I struggled to lose traction with literally bald tyres on the back in the wet and the engine output was in excess of 400bhp.

[Smegs]

Nicked (as in made slight contact with not dug up and hauled it off in the back of the motor) a proud kerb pre chrimbo, denting the alloy rim and taking a slice out of the tyre wall. Took car to garage to get tyre fitted and alignment, then bunged it through an MOT where everything passed, but damn car feels odd atm.

Driving it over the past couple of days with lots of ice on the roads has had me at pucker factor 7 with all four wheels losing traction on occasions and no confidence in balance and handling.

[teds :D]

Start a bit slow but truth be told there isnt THAT much of a difference between a rwd and fwd... Except one is fun in the snow and the other not so much

There's an absolutely huge difference between RWD and FWD, what are you on about, unless your FWD car model is less than 100bhp. The torque steering is quite the issue and moving on to a RWD car feels like the steering wheel is handled by angels.

Granted there are a lot of arcane ways that car manufacturers have reduced torque steering on their FWD high powered models but it still feels quite intense when you're putting more than 200bhp through the front wheels.

ok ken fucking block lmao

[Spartan Dax]

Start a bit slow but truth be told there isnt THAT much of a difference between a rwd and fwd... Except one is fun in the snow and the other not so much

There's an absolutely huge difference between RWD and FWD, what are you on about, unless your FWD car model is less than 100bhp. The torque steering is quite the issue and moving on to a RWD car feels like the steering wheel is handled by angels.

Granted there are a lot of arcane ways that car manufacturers have reduced torque steering on their FWD high powered models but it still feels quite intense when you're putting more than 200bhp through the front wheels.

ok ken fucking block lmao

Oh come now, torque steering is still a thing. It's not something I would call huge or dangerous, just something that is. For everyday driving it's a non factor.

[Zeekar]

Its a cosmin post. 9/10 times its mostly bollocks.

[RazoR]

Its a cosmin post. 9/10 times its mostly bollocks.

ah yes ad hominems

[Cosmin]

Start a bit slow but truth be told there isnt THAT much of a difference between a rwd and fwd... Except one is fun in the snow and the other not so much

There's an absolutely huge difference between RWD and FWD, what are you on about, unless your FWD car model is less than 100bhp. The torque steering is quite the issue and moving on to a RWD car feels like the steering wheel is handled by angels.

Granted there are a lot of arcane ways that car manufacturers have reduced torque steering on their FWD high powered models but it still feels quite intense when you're putting more than 200bhp through the front wheels.

ok ken fucking block lmao

Oh come now, torque steering is still a thing. It's not something I would call huge or dangerous, just something that is. For everyday driving it's a non factor.

Sorry if my post made it out to be something dangerous, it isn't as you well said, but it's there and the difference is noticeable indeed.

[Lowa [NSN]]

I hate my AWD (CX-5). Its useless and makes the car behave unpredictable when losing grip.
Next car will have real 4WD or either FWD/RWD only.

[Cosmin]

It depends a lot on how they implemented the torque vectoring. There are amazing AWD cars and there are terrifying AWD cars based solely on that.

[Overspark]

My biggest issue with FWD cars is that the vast majority of them ("normal" FWD cars at least, never driven a really sporty one) have terrible understeer on roundabouts and such as soon as you push them just a little bit. The RWD cars I've owned and driven have been far more enjoyable to drive IMHO.

[Spartan Dax]

My second car was a chiptuned 250 bhp SAAB 9-3. I didn't actually know it had that much bhp until years after I bought it but that's a different story. Anyway, terrible terrible torque steer up to 50 kph but it was fun wrestling with it. But oh boy was that chassis not meant for that kind of power. Revlimiting the second gear at ~105 kph though, good times.

Most fun I've ever had in a car was a FWD Peugeot 205 GTI. I literally put that car on fire. (By driving it. On a track) RWD's are boring in comparison. Too civilized.

[Shuko]

My biggest issue with FWD cars is that the vast majority of them ("normal" FWD cars at least, never driven a really sporty one) have terrible understeer on roundabouts and such as soon as you push them just a little bit. The RWD cars I've owned and driven have been far more enjoyable to drive IMHO.

Not a huge thing, but something that surprised me a little was the turning circle on FWD/4WD. I've driven RWD all of my life and my spot in our parking area is rather tight (need to do a kind of S-shape maneuver). All the RWD 5 and 7 series BMWs I've owned, none have had any problems fitting with one try. I've tried the same with a FWD Volvo, older Range Rover etc which all are smaller (shorter) than a 5/7. They all have been too "stiff" to manage the turn in one go.

Anyway, as a seasonal side note, an old Range Rover is the best winter car.

[tulip]

Anyway, as a seasonal side note, an old Range Rover is the best winter car.

Mx5 on a snowy roundabouts most fun, although you arrive at your destination late and amped up on so much adrenaline Co-worker's may think you're high.

[Cosmin]

My biggest issue with FWD cars is that the vast majority of them ("normal" FWD cars at least, never driven a really sporty one) have terrible understeer on roundabouts and such as soon as you push them just a little bit. The RWD cars I've owned and driven have been far more enjoyable to drive IMHO.

Yeah you have to actually play with the throttle a bit to keep it in check