This better?Originally Posted by ctrlchris
This better?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-118A_PeacekeeperPretty sure that's a test of a minuteman in the bikini atoll
(AKA if you ever see this, do a very quick prayer)
At Kwajalein Atoll
Iirc there was reputedly some intelligence that a Jihadi from one of the snownig countries was planning to try to hijack a passenger airliner and fly it in? ( at least this was stated in one of the dailies (Torygraph?)) and if you had seen the inhabitants of east London you would realise that it would probably be a benefit if they were wiped out by falling debris....
Its really rusty under all the paint.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.8_cm_FlaK_40
JagdTiger, JadgPanther, StuG III, Marder II, IS-8, KV-13, KV-1, KV-1s, T-150, Type59, T-34, M103, E-100, E-50, E-50M, PzKwIV, VK36, T34, M24, T-50-2, T54, M7 Priest, VK28, T25/2, M18, T49, M8A1, Tetrarch, T-127, T82
Not knowing much about big guns, are the three tubes on the sides of the barrel, for letting gases go into them to counteract or adjust the recoil somehow, and if so why is the top tube different? Or what is their purpose?
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Shock absorbers similar to what a car uses. There is some massive recoil firing such a gun. Or two:
nevar forget
I see, thx.
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If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
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Tanks are like Pokemon, gotta collect 'em all.....
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
quite, nuclear weaponry and the MAD doctrine is the reason most of us are still alive today.
otherwise Korea, or Vietnam, or Afghanistan (the soviet invasion) would have escalated into World War III.
I love me a good proxy war.
Plausible deniability is such a lovely phrase.
I'm going to give you the chance to not be dense and tell you to look at the name of that nuclear missile. If you manage to fail in that respect, well there is nothing we can do for you.How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
edit: oh and the context imbued in the sentence.
Last edited by Tellenta; August 7 2012 at 04:09:30 PM.
it might be nuclear apocalypse, but at least there is something suitably ironic to giggle at while watching the mushroom clouds, well before the heat/shockwave or radiation kills you.I'm going to give you the chance to not be dense and tell you to look at the name of that nuclear missile. If you manage to fail in that respect, well there is nothing we can do for you.How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
unless you manage to live long enough to gradually starve to death as the dogfood runs out and nuclear winter sets in.
(fuck me, i still cant wrap my head around people seriously wanted to visit that fate on humanity by agitating for a "pre-emptive strike")
They have the crazy, or don't have the proper respect for what a nuclear weapon actually does.
There are people that want a pre-emptive nuclear attack? against who?it might be nuclear apocalypse, but at least there is something suitably ironic to giggle at while watching the mushroom clouds, well before the heat/shockwave or radiation kills you.I'm going to give you the chance to not be dense and tell you to look at the name of that nuclear missile. If you manage to fail in that respect, well there is nothing we can do for you.How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
unless you manage to live long enough to gradually starve to death as the dogfood runs out and nuclear winter sets in.
(fuck me, i still cant wrap my head around people seriously wanted to visit that fate on humanity by agitating for a "pre-emptive strike")
At the moment I think you can find some the easiest in Pakistan or India. The big three U.S. Russia and China have an affliction of 'sanity', there might be a shit talking general to be found somewhere but history would dictate it's probably saber rattling simply because of restraint. The closest we got to glassing the planet was probably the Cuban missile crisis due to the fact that the Soviets had an 'if they, then we' plan approved and ready to go.There are people that want a pre-emptive nuclear attack? against who?it might be nuclear apocalypse, but at least there is something suitably ironic to giggle at while watching the mushroom clouds, well before the heat/shockwave or radiation kills you.I'm going to give you the chance to not be dense and tell you to look at the name of that nuclear missile. If you manage to fail in that respect, well there is nothing we can do for you.How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
unless you manage to live long enough to gradually starve to death as the dogfood runs out and nuclear winter sets in.
(fuck me, i still cant wrap my head around people seriously wanted to visit that fate on humanity by agitating for a "pre-emptive strike")
Ahh yes Pakistan and India. I guess the same might be said of Israel should they actually have nuclear weapons.At the moment I think you can find some the easiest in Pakistan or India. The big three U.S. Russia and China have an affliction of 'sanity', there might be a shit talking general to be found somewhere but history would dictate it's probably saber rattling simply because of restraint. The closest we got to glassing the planet was probably the Cuban missile crisis due to the fact that the Soviets had an 'if they, then we' plan approved and ready to go.There are people that want a pre-emptive nuclear attack? against who?it might be nuclear apocalypse, but at least there is something suitably ironic to giggle at while watching the mushroom clouds, well before the heat/shockwave or radiation kills you.I'm going to give you the chance to not be dense and tell you to look at the name of that nuclear missile. If you manage to fail in that respect, well there is nothing we can do for you.How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
unless you manage to live long enough to gradually starve to death as the dogfood runs out and nuclear winter sets in.
(fuck me, i still cant wrap my head around people seriously wanted to visit that fate on humanity by agitating for a "pre-emptive strike")
Israel does have nuclear weapons on the tactical scale (the french "lost" some SLBM's on a ship in the Mediterranean in the mid 80s), and if shit hits the fan and Jerusalem burns i suspect whoever the aggressors might be will be in the receiving end of them.
its one of the primary reasons we have not seen large scaled armed conflict in the region since the Yom Kippur war, simply put because beating Israel means the world goes up in flames, literately.
Curtis Lemay agitated for pre-emptive attacks during most of the time he commanded the SAC.
I'm not the dense one here, these missiles DID keep the peace for many years, they did their part.I'm going to give you the chance to not be dense and tell you to look at the name of that nuclear missile. If you manage to fail in that respect, well there is nothing we can do for you.How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
edit: oh and the context imbued in the sentence.
Even if they would be taken back into service and used later, they still kept the peace they were designed/named to keep.
Last edited by Qui Shon; August 7 2012 at 06:05:31 PM.
WoT: Mike_Hammer
Tanks are like Pokemon, gotta collect 'em all.....
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
You really are slow as fuck huh?I'm not the dense one here, these missiles DID keep the peace for many years, they did their part.I'm going to give you the chance to not be dense and tell you to look at the name of that nuclear missile. If you manage to fail in that respect, well there is nothing we can do for you.How so? MAD is one component that has *limited* wars to localized proxy wars, rather then WW3.If ever used in anger would have litteraly the biggest use of irony in the history of mankind.
edit: oh and the context imbued in the sentence.
Even if they would be taken back into service and used later, they still kept the peace they were designed/named to keep.
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