[Devpost] Killmails and loot drops for self-destruction, coming in Inferno 1.2

[Tsubutai]

https://forums.eveonline.com/default...60#post1707260

For the Inferno 1.2 release, we've modified the self-destruct mechanics a little. These changes are now live on the Singularity test server. You can go and try them for yourself, and leave feedback in this thread.


Loot Drops
Ships that self-destruct will now drop loot in their wreck. This follows the regular chance-based loot-drop mechanics for items fitted to the ship and carried in the cargo hold.


Kill Reports
Ships that self-destruct whilst under aggression will now generate a regular kill-report. In order for this to happen, the ship must have been recently aggressed, and there must be at least one of the aggressors in space in the system at the time of death. The final-blow will be awarded to the eligible attacker who inflicted the most damage.

Self-destructs that do not involve player aggression will not generate a kill-report


By the way, you may have seen reports of the occasional self-destruct kill-report on Tranquility recently. These were caused by an unrelated defect, and were not intentional. Typically the items list of such mails is incomplete. I'm stating this in-advance, as no doubt someone would have asked about it.

[dzajic]

So... what's the point in leaving self destruct as an option any longer than?

[Tsubutai]

So... what's the point in leaving self destruct as an option any longer than?

Podjumping? Getting out of wormholes when stuck?

[Loire]

So... what's the point in leaving self destruct as an option any longer than?

Insurance fraud? :-/ Yea it really serves no purpose anymore.

[Leboe]

Great timing. Last night Brent was live streaming and we had a carrier SD on us, with ccp bro watching so we all bitched at him about it

phoneposting~

[punkboy101]

God damn CCP has been full of win these last few months, it just pisses me off they took so long about it I'm now a bitter vet who struggles to log in.

[whispous]

About time.

So... what's the point in leaving self destruct as an option any longer than?

You are the worst and probably a butthurt blobfagger

[Daneel Trevize]

SD is so you can't be tackled by some fuckstick in a purgur drake with burnt launchers and held until either server DT or someone comes by to help you. Mostly the only reasonable remaining cases are the wormhole express & other podjumping, and so your pod can't be perma-bubbled by a dic(k) rather than go reship. Imagine some hero bubbler corralling 100s of red pods keeping them from some epic nullsec meatgrinder warfare, the humanity.

Lol the current partial SD mails were a bug, not a feature

[DaDutchDude]

Nice

I guess self destruct is still in because otherwise it would be to easy to tackle and just hold a person without the option to leave accept log off and hope they don't stick around for you to log on and land in the same spot out of e-warp and tackle you again, basically allowing to completely prevent you from playing .... which would be hilarious, but still ...

[Cydo]

It's fine by me, about time really.

[Daneel Trevize]

Nice

I guess self destruct is still in because otherwise it would be to easy to tackle and just hold a person without the option to leave accept log off and hope they don't stick around for you to log on and land in the same spot out of e-warp and tackle you again, basically allowing to completely prevent you from playing .... which would be hilarious, but still ...

You can always eject, thus it's down to having your pod held, and also having no option to even put your lost modules through the loot fairy RNG.

[f0st3r]

Very nice..

[Meridith]

gg nerds

[Nu11u5]

SD needs to destroy all mods, void insurance, and have a <15sec countdown. Put a big overlay UI and cancel button to make it obvious. Generating a killmail is OK but it needs to list the victim as "final blow" so SDs can be processed correctly.

[Boltorano]

SD needs to destroy all mods, void insurance, and have a <15sec countdown. Put a big overlay UI and cancel button to make it obvious. Generating a killmail is OK but it needs to list the victim as "final blow" so SDs can be processed correctly.

So every self destruct can be "ISK neutral" even when it's not? Sure.

[Madner Kami]

SD needs to destroy all mods, void insurance, and have a <15sec countdown. Put a big overlay UI and cancel button to make it obvious. Generating a killmail is OK but it needs to list the victim as "final blow" so SDs can be processed correctly.

Go diaf.

[dzajic]

About time.

So... what's the point in leaving self destruct as an option any longer than?

You are the worst and probably a butthurt blobfagger

Bwahahaha. Never flown in fleet larger than 50, mostly solo or with only one or two buddies. Don't even remember using SD myself ever, but it should be in game and be an option to deny the enemies that loot. Real warships have/had scuttle charges to prevent capture and stuff... I'd gladly sacrifice a high slot for a scuttle charge if it had very short (less than 20 sec) CD timer. Even if it pods me, denying enemy loot (and generating rage and ganktears) is epic.

[Durzel]

Killmails are fine though they ought to have the victim as the final blow for ease of recognising SDs. Don't really agree with it dropping loot, and since it won't have any "scuttling the ship" function anymore I don't think it needs to remain as a 2 minute timer either.

[AmaNutin]

So... what's the point in leaving self destruct as an option any longer than?

Stuck in a WH without probes, lose the exit?

[Nu11u5]

If SD denies loot and still pays out insurance then there is no reason not to use it.

Either you get your payout or you deny loot. Being able to do both is too advantageous and doesn't make logical sense.