Keep in mind this is CCP we're talking about. We're not thinking it, we're fearing/eagerly anticipating it.Originally Posted by XenosisReaper
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Keep in mind this is CCP we're talking about. We're not thinking it, we're fearing/eagerly anticipating it.
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I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those Thukkers, that way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody.
ecm has a chance "to work" rather than the others where they just "work"I see, since ECM is underused and underpowered compared to other EWAR, it definitely needs a bigger bonus then the rest. Twice as much would have been too little.
a best named racial jammer has 3.6 strength, add 30% you get a whopping 4.68 total strength (so about 70% to jam a t1 frigate using a best named jammer), if you compare it to the other ECM ships you can see its a fairly ~meh~ bonus.
Blackbird gives you 15% per level on caldari cruiser so 30% at cruiser 2 (minimum to fly it) = 4.68 (5.72 at lvl 4, 6.3 at lvl 5)
Kitsune gives 20% per level on caldari frig so 100% = 7.2 strength
Falcon and Rook gives you 30% per level on recon and since you cant fly recons for shit without recon 4 thats 120% = 7.92 (or 9 at recon 5)
also looking at the dump it seems they increased the CPU to 100, a best named jammer uses 32 base and it looks like they also increased its max locked targets from 2 to 3 and its going to keep its whopping 30km locking range.
i'd say its hardly dangerous since sneezing on an ibis blows it up.
Last edited by EntroX; July 25 2012 at 02:37:20 PM.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/853093-0/page/1
It's because ECM is based on jam strength versus sensor strength, and can be hit-or-miss, whereas the other E-War forms are applied without chance of them being "resisted."I see, since ECM is underused and underpowered compared to other EWAR, it definitely needs a bigger bonus then the rest. Twice as much would have been too little.
No, it's because those bonuses mirror the recon ship per level bonus where Rook and Falcon get 30% ECM strenght bonus, and Minmatar and Amarr else gets 10%, so if you want to complain you should complain about velator getting double bonus.It's because ECM is based on jam strength versus sensor strength, and can be hit-or-miss, whereas the other E-War forms are applied without chance of them being "resisted."I see, since ECM is underused and underpowered compared to other EWAR, it definitely needs a bigger bonus then the rest. Twice as much would have been too little.
I doubt linking to a thread from 2008 is really helpful. CCP has changed wording on items since then to be more consistent. We should wait until we have more than just a statdump that half of us have no idea how to read. If it is not per level, 30% is no concern at all imho.
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It's a rookie ship, it won't be per level.
Last edited by Cerbus; July 26 2012 at 10:13:54 AM.
Have you done Gallente Judicial anything else?
People still fall for t'amber posts?
Just you wait, unbeliever :3
They're all from the client files, colours may be a little off as are the decal placements - but you can go in the stuff files and see for yourself.
Or you could go onto sisi, apparently the Catalysts listed on the first post are there now - albiet not complete or with unique colours/ textures.
Last edited by Cerbus; July 26 2012 at 12:21:09 PM.
Only a Vexor, and I'm guessing this is the name - its a Police Issue Catalyst, but I couldn't find the decals for it in the stuff files. Judicial was the only one that fit, so I could be wrong.
The green light one is not real, I wanted to see what it looked liked without the white lights from the client files.
Only for the catalyst? or do the other dessies get shiny new paintjobs?The bit that is really funny Xenosis, is they're real. :3
edit - nvm i misread what you wrote. The other dessies have other designs yes (13 in total each for Caldari and Amarr, and I think 8 for Minmatar), but I don't think there are descriptions for them yet or ship ids.Only for the catalyst? or do the other dessies get shiny new paintjobs?The bit that is really funny Xenosis, is they're real. :3
Last edited by Cerbus; July 26 2012 at 12:40:42 PM.
I'm not a Database Guy so i'm probably just being a bit of a thicko here, but does it seem a bit weird for them to create unique entries in the ships db for each of these variants, when they will essentially be the same ship with a different name, description and texture?
They'll need their own unique descriptions, and some of these ships will have unique stats so I'd say yes they need an id of some sort. The ship definition files are so tiny now with the new .black file format its probably not much of an issue spacewise (although those files are for the shader information, the stats and ship descriptions are in the database).
Stupid Creodron and Alliastra Catalysts are impossible to do in a celshader :3
Last edited by Cerbus; July 26 2012 at 01:53:14 PM.
Probably a legacy thing, only way to do it.
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i thought all of t'ambers posts were just renders he had drawn up himself?
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all from the client files i promise
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