It appears my new policy of declaring neg reps has struck a nerve with someone.
Harden up, cunt.
As for your attempted rebuke, I can't say that I understand it. How exactly am I stoned in your house of glasses - or otherwise - you fuck?
Please, explain it to us all.
Im still laughing at the bads that negrep instead of poast
Why do you bads think the srs posting section will be for the ELITE.
It will be for those who aren't degenerate cunts and who actually post things from time to time that are worth reading.
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Inb4 people sperg about sofia not liking them and thus getting rejected.
Last edited by ctrlchris; July 24 2012 at 08:02:45 AM.
Your posting is medium, its not rare and its not well done
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I've thought about making a "funny/stupid rep comments" thread. Cause I've got a few doozies.
i thought about making a thread of good threads but then realized it would have no content
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Well mate, I guess that one of my own concerns isn't so much that it'll be for the elite as much as that an elite will coalesce within it.Originally Posted by ctrlchris
The other edge of the sword is that we're talking about segregating the "bad" posts from the "good" posts - which starts to raise questions, questions like "where does the MLP thread really belong?".
I wasn't joking earlier, when I hinted about intellectual ghettoisation.
This new sub-forum is simultaneously laying bricks to build a fortress for the sneering intelligentsia - and a prison for honest discussion.
I don't really understand the butthurt.
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Coming soon(tm).
<3 Entrox.
i think its when the shit business subforum starts deciding that anything not in the shit business forum is worthless and wrong as they are the "bad" posts/posters and the shit business forum is the only bastion of "good" posts/posters
surely general should be a blend of serious discussion and light hearted discussion to be enjoyed by all? oh wait, this is fhc
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heh, sounds like a good thing to try. Obviously it's rather hard to keep a good topic going without trollbreaks so why not.
If you want to post in rule5 threads with at least some kind of effort put towards the content then it's not to hard to join the usergroup.
If you think it's to much to ask about the user group membership then you are most likely just going to shitpost anyway.
However, it should be easy to get access. Just because one usually shits posts it won't automatically mean one would do so where self restraint is requested.
No problem.
Basically, you accuse others of ignoring other peoples arguments / perspective and "living in their own walled gardens" while doing exactly that by shitposting in a thread instead, you know, actually listening to and trying to counter the arguments of the other side.
That is pretty much what I would call "standing up for your opinions" ( listening to and trying to counter the arguments, that is, not the shitposting ).
You seem to confuse "elite" with "non-trolls". It's a forum where you shouldn't troll or shitpost, how exactly does that lead to an "intellectual elite"? That's like saying limiting pony posts to the MLP thread is making the rest of FHC into an "elite forum", that's just silly.I guess that one of my own concerns isn't so much that it'll be for the elite as much as that an elite will coalesce within it.
All I read from such comments is "I do not like it because I cannot post troll/shitpost answers to posts I do not agree with and which feel 'beneath me' to discuss seriously".
+1
Last edited by Aramendel; July 24 2012 at 08:54:54 AM.
In the car so a brief clarification. I've rejected 2 people so far, one of which was Al Simmons. I can honestly say I'm pretty good at knowing who is a bad and who isn't, so the application for access is really just a way of me managing the posters within.
I don't visit fhc for serious discussions. I like the sarcastic approach from people, the puns without people being butthurt right away (last gem was ralralras "i've been hacked"-thread).
But i also like the serious discussions between all the rabble and bad jokes. The mix of those threads ...
With serious discussion seperated, there might be only the non-serious left. It'll be like banning every animu-pic into one thread ... which would be bad because i'm sure, secretly everyone loves krans and entrox' anime-pics popping up here and there.
Also why do i see so many double and triple green-bars since the "rep stats porn"-thread!?
It will be just the same, just split between 2 forums. Do they have to be in the same forum for the mix to happen?
Not everyone is like us. A good quality troll/tease post still requires effort. A lot of them are just bad.
no, no. We're not that similar after all... which would be bad because i'm sure, secretly everyone loves krans and entrox' anime-pics popping up here and there.
on the one hand, yes; on the other hand, have you ever tried having a rational conversation with al simmons?
I'm pleasently surprised by the subforum as it is right now. The gun control-thread has some quite coherent argumentation going on, and posters make an effort. More so than :anime: and one line (or maybe two lines) of text. I honestly believe we can have a serious subforum and the general shipoasting chat at the same time, since they cater to different tastes (which still blend together at times.)
Real men pvp in barges.
The sole purpose of the SrsBsns section of the forum is to allow more efficient circlejerking of +rep.
My application is, of course, already in.
In all honesty though, this just seems a recipe for less active, more boring threads. It also really discourages new posters. All in all, I'm against it in concept.
Spoiler:
My "walled garden" comment was intended to relate to the proposed theft of legitimate discussion from the rest of FHC and the establishment of a new and privileged "class" of poster, to whom this legitimacy is to be restricted to, within a protected environment. I have previously used the words fortress and prison, simultaneously, to describe this new environment because both are accurate descriptions at the same time.
I guess calling it a "walled garden" was akin to putting a nice frock on a dirty whore.
So far, the "other side" hasn't made much argument other than "this will stop shitposting".
Well I'm sorry, but it won't.
It will create as much safety for discussion as it will sterility, and exhaust the passion and diversity from our exchanges. It will build ramparts for closed minds, not expose them to ferocious new ideas. All that will remain after our culture is bleached is the domain of those deemed the untermenschen.
Frankly, I'm in awe at the speed and eagerness with which we're setting ourselves up to judge one another as "worthy".
It is reprehensible. Let me be now absolutely clear:
The content of our posts is not necessarily the content of our characters.
Let me counter by saying that you seem to confuse people who troll sometimes with people who troll all the time. At least, I can't see you make any distinction here. In fact, only one person does.
It's a sub-forum where (currently) one person establishes whether or not you're a troll and should be forbidden access. The process is completely concealed and without a higher appeal other than a direct complaint about the "troll seer" toward the highest authority.
That isn't to condemn any particular person, because as I've noted previously I expect this whole situation has come about under the best of intentions. However, the best intentions of people don't excuse the failings of the system they've put in place.
The rep system invoked more soul searching when it was proposed.
I raised the MLP thread as an example, I could have just as easily suggested any other long-running thread in General Discussion and made my point. That point is the totally arbitrary nature of this development. What content should or should not be restricted to "serious business". How is this to be addressed? Nothing and everything has been decided already.
I have done nothing but discuss this topic seriously. I generally try to be a "good poster", if such a creature actually exists - but I will not surrender any part of myself to placate your sensibilities.
We Must Dissent.
I'm sorry Fortior, but as much as you're a bit of a hunk this post is so full of shit I'm going to call you out on it.
You've just directly pointed your finger at one, maybe two, particular posters - insofar as having an issue with them, with how they post.
Funnily enough, it's the same poster who was (imo) one of the few people making any serious attempt at discussion in the last gun control (It's just an article, guys!) thread.
BUT HEY! If they're posting pictures or condensing their points, they're obviously trolls. Or whatever it is we're calling them now.
There isn't going to be any "blending" once you've separated a homogeneous mixture out into a heterogeneous one.
We already have a "blend". It's called FHC.
I think what we're trying to say is that shiposting is also :srsbsns:, thus the idea for that sub-forum is fucking stupid, much like anyone other than Hast moderating in General. There, I said it.
Also, I don't know who the hell would want to read badly thought through walls of text (which will be a majority), when one could argue for eloquence in expressing the same point far more concisely in just a couple of lines, with a link or two thrown in for background information if needed?
Last edited by lubica; July 24 2012 at 10:27:52 AM.
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