[TMA] FW PvP

[Rania Serlia]

From my three whole days FW experience in solo cheaps frigate pvp, I say it can be good. I've gotten a couple-few goodfights, and died horribly to a few smallgangs, or trying to hit above my weight class. Whoever above said AB only fits are common is completely correct, most of the fits I've killed have been AB only or dualprop, at least on the frigate scale. I've seen a few linked pilots, but most solo/smallgang frigate/dessy stuff doesn't seem to bother dragging links along.

Protips for an enjoyable solo FW evening:
find and cap minor plexes in t1 frigate(10k lp a shot)
get bored with flying in circles and get slightly drunk
start engaging anything at all whatsoever in your T1 frigate without thinking of the odds
get some kills and then become a glorious pyre for the might of your home empire
go to homesys and get another T1 frigate, repeat

wake up with hangover and massively expanded combat log

Has worked so far for me.

[Lorkin Desal]

Sounds like links are pretty much mandatory then. Furry muff.

What is the general pvp landscape like? Is it full of lords servant type guys indulging in maximum faggotry whilst telling you how awesome at elite pvp they are, or is there a more relaxed goodfights thing going on?

Beyond solo justice, do gangs tend to be certain sizes and what hulls are they in?

You are horrible m8. Kill yourself (irl).

As to caldari/gallente FW - generally speaking gallente will blob the shit outta you, or not engage. There is very rarely an actual stand up fight as both sides are pretty evenly matched, and both are rather risk-averse. The gigantic 900lb gorilla in the room is Drunk and Disorderly (and co) who are nominally on Gallente side, but seem to be off doing their own thing, so they don't tip the scales that much(unless there is a fight, in which case both sides tend to avoid dropping caps unless they have snuff box as batphone on standby - snuff box batphones for both sides depending on who's batphone is online/convo's first) :P

Gallente have at least one nyx + bridging titan they like to use as often as possible(nyx would probably be pretty easy to bait out tbh, but he always cyno's in at range), and for fleets often bring armor (faction) bs/t3s/hacs.

There is some good solo to be had, but be prepared to lose ships constantly(I stopped using fleet boosters/implants a while ago as people were refusing to fight me at all, for example t1 merlin vs vexor + thrasher + firetail - they all ran and smacktalked in local).

Qcats tend to enjoy playing station games in nennamaila(but have a few decent pvpers) - that's where they and several other gal FW corps base out of. Villore Accords alliance are generally horrible gankers/blobbers who will refuse to engage off station unless they have 10:1 odds + ecm + QCATS on grid/in system for backup. They have literally maybe 2 people who are up for gfs on a regular basis.

Several gallente pilots (I can't remember this one dude's name) fly with falcon/blackbird alts (They swap them out depending on which they can get into the plex) and several other gallente pilots (chatgris specifically) almost always fly with t3 links(but he's somewhat chill and will drop them for a 1v1).

Tl;dr - There's GFs to be had, but be prepared to rage hard if you don't like losing ships/getting ganked/faggotry. For people like me(fine with engaging 1v20, have limitless wallets for losing 5+ ships in one day and still giving no fucks just to get that one perfect fight) it's not bad. Otherwise, you'll wanna stick to your corp's gangs and just go for the random ganks all over the place(nennamaila, akidagi, vlill, oms, enaluri are all sorta hotspot systems, depending on TZ/activity).

Also ry ry, I've had my booster alt in WHs for quite some time now. I've been :truesolo: (not even implants) and been doing just fine, still engaging 1v20. You truly are an ignorant fuck. :P

Telling someone to kill themselves irl is desperately unfunny and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Also, 1v 20 in a wormhole, fuck off lords, solo WH is boring and unless you are harassing a corp you are unlikely to get a 1v 20 fight.

You truly are an ignorant fuck.

[LordsServant]

Sounds like links are pretty much mandatory then. Furry muff.

What is the general pvp landscape like? Is it full of lords servant type guys indulging in maximum faggotry whilst telling you how awesome at elite pvp they are, or is there a more relaxed goodfights thing going on?

Beyond solo justice, do gangs tend to be certain sizes and what hulls are they in?

You are horrible m8. Kill yourself (irl).

As to caldari/gallente FW - generally speaking gallente will blob the shit outta you, or not engage. There is very rarely an actual stand up fight as both sides are pretty evenly matched, and both are rather risk-averse. The gigantic 900lb gorilla in the room is Drunk and Disorderly (and co) who are nominally on Gallente side, but seem to be off doing their own thing, so they don't tip the scales that much(unless there is a fight, in which case both sides tend to avoid dropping caps unless they have snuff box as batphone on standby - snuff box batphones for both sides depending on who's batphone is online/convo's first) :P

Gallente have at least one nyx + bridging titan they like to use as often as possible(nyx would probably be pretty easy to bait out tbh, but he always cyno's in at range), and for fleets often bring armor (faction) bs/t3s/hacs.

There is some good solo to be had, but be prepared to lose ships constantly(I stopped using fleet boosters/implants a while ago as people were refusing to fight me at all, for example t1 merlin vs vexor + thrasher + firetail - they all ran and smacktalked in local).

Qcats tend to enjoy playing station games in nennamaila(but have a few decent pvpers) - that's where they and several other gal FW corps base out of. Villore Accords alliance are generally horrible gankers/blobbers who will refuse to engage off station unless they have 10:1 odds + ecm + QCATS on grid/in system for backup. They have literally maybe 2 people who are up for gfs on a regular basis.

Several gallente pilots (I can't remember this one dude's name) fly with falcon/blackbird alts (They swap them out depending on which they can get into the plex) and several other gallente pilots (chatgris specifically) almost always fly with t3 links(but he's somewhat chill and will drop them for a 1v1).

Tl;dr - There's GFs to be had, but be prepared to rage hard if you don't like losing ships/getting ganked/faggotry. For people like me(fine with engaging 1v20, have limitless wallets for losing 5+ ships in one day and still giving no fucks just to get that one perfect fight) it's not bad. Otherwise, you'll wanna stick to your corp's gangs and just go for the random ganks all over the place(nennamaila, akidagi, vlill, oms, enaluri are all sorta hotspot systems, depending on TZ/activity).

Also ry ry, I've had my booster alt in WHs for quite some time now. I've been :truesolo: (not even implants) and been doing just fine, still engaging 1v20. You truly are an ignorant fuck. :P

Telling someone to kill themselves irl is desperately unfunny and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Also, 1v 20 in a wormhole, fuck off lords, solo WH is boring and unless you are harassing a corp you are unlikely to get a 1v 20 fight.

You truly are an ignorant fuck.

I'm gonna ask you to carefully, re-read what I said one more time(you misread something, and horribly overreacted).

  Spoiler:

My booster alt is in WHs, along with my mains doing capital escalations. boge is still in kspace, unboosted, without implants, still kicking ppl's teeth in, 1v20. I don't think I've ever solo pvp'd in WHs (not really something you can do with the amount of time I have tbh-it requires huge patience and time expenditure)

Now that said, I overreacted myself and I redact my "kill yourself IRL", I had a rather shit day and nothing pisses me off more than ignorance (the "Lords has a titan" is a meme now, I hope noone actually thinks I still have one, the "Lords can't fly without gangboosters/implants" is just ignorance, I rarely fly with implants and have put away the gangbooster as previously mentioned for some time now).

I hope you redact your response(considering you based it on a misunderstanding of the subject matter, perfectly understandable as my wording was slightly ambiguous).

[Brullig]

Been flying with Fweddit for a bout a month. We usually have a good time in Thrashers + Griffins + random shit (usually Rifters and Merlins for tackle) trying to catch ships worth multiples of our entire fleet. There's a lot of hilarity to be had trying to take on something like a Hurricane with said setup if there aren't Griffins to jam...

People have been laying low lately and not flipping systems (which is akin to just giving Minmatar free 20 billion every time). We have a bunch of systems plexed up to vulnerable, and I feel as soon as Nulli hits the Amarr side then these will start flipping over and we may push our way kicking and screaming out of T1.

That being said, T1 is not as shit as some will have you believe. I make 30-50mil/hour mostly AFK when I need money. I can't imagine how much more Minmatar milita makes (considering their stuff costs anywhere from 1/4 to 1/16 of the price of what Amarr pay, and they also have a 5-20% LP earned bonus as well)

[ry ry]

Fweddit are pretty big aren't they?

In my mind FW was still the same kind of numbers as back when it was first introduced, but some poking around suggests that its actually really popular already - at least in terms of the numbers involved.

What sort of numbers do the respective factions have at their disposal, and is there a clear underdog at the moment? I guess every Faction's footprint varies from TZ to TZ doesn't it?

Yeah, i know its a lot of random questions - sorry

I redact my "kill yourself IRL",

Jesus dude, man the fuck up. If you want me to kill myself irl that is entirely your prerogative. Don't be browbeaten into redacting stuff because somebody else said it was nasty.

I'm not likely to top myself any time soon, but if i was killed in a traffic accident on my way home tonight, and the news filtered down onto FHC, i swear to god i would find some way to come back to haunt you if you didn't have the balls to at least post a gloating image macro or something.

Also i wasn't going to mention it, but since i've bothered acknowledging your usual vitriol: "You are an ignorant fuck, i stopped doing that" does not mean it didn't happen, with the release of ASBs you were going on endlessly about your thick veiny force multipliers. My ignorance is pretty much limited to you recently moving your alts somewhere else. you know what? That level of ignorance of the minutiae of your existence i am completely fine with.

[Badboy K]

i have an alt doing nothing, i might wanna join some corp for some casual pvp action, which side/corp you guys would be best to join?

i don't need pve/isk, just pure pvp

[Andrea Griffin]

i have an alt doing nothing, i might wanna join some corp for some casual pvp action, which side/corp you guys would be best to join?

i don't need pve/isk, just pure pvp

Pretty soon I'm reactivating an older account that's still in FW for the Amarr; if anyone has suggestions for a decent Amarr FW corp that would be great. I think the pilot has 40m+ SP, and she can fly a LOT of stuff.

Though, it may be fun to have a FHC-themed corp for FW. Anyone interested in taking the reins on something like that?

[Ophichius]

i have an alt doing nothing, i might wanna join some corp for some casual pvp action, which side/corp you guys would be best to join?

i don't need pve/isk, just pure pvp

Pretty soon I'm reactivating an older account that's still in FW for the Amarr; if anyone has suggestions for a decent Amarr FW corp that would be great. I think the pilot has 40m+ SP, and she can fly a LOT of stuff.

Though, it may be fun to have a FHC-themed corp for FW. Anyone interested in taking the reins on something like that?

I could make the corp, won't be doing shit to actually administer things, and honestly with it being FHC-related, I expect that trying to impose order would be like trying to reassemble a used hand grenade.

Was thinking of Quackbot Liberation Army for the name, but I'm open to suggestions.

-O

[Brullig]

Fweddit are pretty big aren't they?

In my mind FW was still the same kind of numbers as back when it was first introduced, but some poking around suggests that its actually really popular already - at least in terms of the numbers involved.

What sort of numbers do the respective factions have at their disposal, and is there a clear underdog at the moment? I guess every Faction's footprint varies from TZ to TZ doesn't it?

Yeah, i know its a lot of random questions - sorry

I redact my "kill yourself IRL",

Jesus dude, man the fuck up. If you want me to kill myself irl that is entirely your prerogative. Don't be browbeaten into redacting stuff because somebody else said it was nasty.

I'm not likely to top myself any time soon, but if i was killed in a traffic accident on my way home tonight, and the news filtered down onto FHC, i swear to god i would find some way to come back to haunt you if you didn't have the balls to at least post a gloating image macro or something.

Also i wasn't going to mention it, but since i've bothered acknowledging your usual vitriol: "You are an ignorant fuck, i stopped doing that" does not mean it didn't happen, with the release of ASBs you were going on endlessly about your thick veiny force multipliers. My ignorance is pretty much limited to you recently moving your alts somewhere else. you know what? That level of ignorance of the minutiae of your existence i am completely fine with.

I think there are like 600 or so accounts in corp last I checked, but it's not that active. On a given night there's probably closer to 30 logged in. Part of this is due to lots of people being alts or brand new players (which is one of the reasons we love our Thrashers/T1frigs gangs...also because the corp gives them out for free). There is a decent core contingent of high-skilled and wealthy players, actually a titan or three from what I know, and we also do some black ops shenanigans for fun. Part of it was war in Delve taking away a lot of people to play on their mains, which is still going on for TEST (tons of TEST alts in Fweddit, since it started in Reddit). Also, DayZ has been sapping our leadership numbers lately.

FW is pretty active from what I've seen, there's always fights to be had. Minmatar currently control almost all of the Min/Amarr areas, with Amarr only bothering to defend a couple staging systems like Sosala and Kamela. There's a storm a-brewing, though, as Nulli Secunda has spent the last week or two fixing standings and they will be joining on Amarr side and pushing hard to flip all the systems over. This should lead to a LOT more activity quickly.

It's also not uncommon to see shiny pirate gangs coming through. Just the other day we formed up a fleet of BCs supported by Titan-bridged BS/dreads in an attempt to engage a fleet of pirate battleships + logi + recon + strat cruisers (Machs, Tempests, Rapiers, Falcons, Scimitars, Basilisk, all sorts of fun)

I basically see it as the next step up from RvB in terms of always-available PvP opportunities -- you can still log in and go blow stuff up pretty much instantly, but there is a bit more complexity than throwing frig gangs at each other on gates.

[ry ry]

My old nemesis DayZ, bane of corp activity, we meet again! Other than everybody being apocalyptic zombie survivalists for the next couple of weeks, FW sounds really good to be honest.

This thread has more than delivered - thanks dudes.

[halbarad]

Edit: nvm, found it in the stupid questions thread.

[Brullig]

[ry ry]

FEARLESS. are entering FW.

hold me.

http://failheap-challenge.com/showth...l=1#post519563

[Tarkis]

Can anyone [TMA] me on engaging in enemy FW highsec? What shiptypes and tactics are best? What to avoid, etc?

[Brullig]

Can anyone [TMA] me on engaging in enemy FW highsec? What shiptypes and tactics are best? What to avoid, etc?

Errr...FW takes place in lowsec. What are you doing in high? You'll get webbed, scrammed, and jammed by NPCs if you fight for any reasonable duration on a gate.

[Tarkis]

You clearly know less about FW than I do. People go into enemy highsec all the time, both solo and as a gang. It's something I'm interested in but I don't know much about what works and what doesn't.

[Ophichius]

You clearly know less about FW than I do. People go into enemy highsec all the time, both solo and as a gang. It's something I'm interested in but I don't know much about what works and what doesn't.

Can't give specifics since I don't fuck around with enemy highsec, but based on the times I've been engaged in friendly highsec, small fast stuff. It's always been destroyers or smaller, they rarely stick around for more than 20 seconds. Mostly it seems to be undock games, undock, wait for targets, redock before the navy kills you, or undock, wait for targets, warp off and back, repeat until bored/something shows up that you can kill.

-O

[Zavior]

Well there is this one guy who uses paladin to gank fw people in enemy highsec so clearly its doable :P Someone from gallente militia iirc

[inora aknaria]

Someone from the minnies used to use a typhoon to shoot mission runners. AFAIK they spawn a set of npc rats on grid for each at war pilot. The npcs will racial ewar war as well as web, but faction npcs don't point (there are some edge cases to this, but last time it happened I petitioned and got my ship back). The dps put out by npcs is somewhere in the 200-500ish range as I could tank them with an active scimi while webbed. You can do a gang of unkillable ships and gate / station camp somewhere.

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[Zavior]

Yeah, you can tank the navy. We camped dodixie few times :P