Got to admit that whenever somebody says something stupid there often is an "R" after their name.Originally Posted by indeterminacy
Oh look, somebody said something stupid and not a single fuck was given. News at 11?
Hes clearly trolling....First I would like a source for that.
Second it influences crime rates where death is the outcome. Simple list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate
Please note the column homicides.
The rest of your post made me want to kill myself, thankfully my country has gun control laws so i don't own the device that'd make it easy.
But i quoted this because I agree with you on this point.
There are approximately a similar number of firearm related deaths as there are vehicular related deaths in the US each year yet you need to prove that you can capably operate a vehicle for the safety of yourself and other road users. Why the hell isn't there a similar licencing process if you want to own a gun?
You're a psychopath.Mate really?
Stricter gun laws usually do just that, several mental checks that make sure that acquring guns by crazies is hard. As for hotlines for people contemplating homocide, you vant be thatthick right?Again.. Would someone capable of homicide not do it because they didn't have a gun?First I would like a source for that.
Second it influences crime rates where death is the outcome. Simple list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate
Please note the column homicides.
The problem is mental health diagnosis and treatment.
We have suicide hotlines? Why no hotlines for people contemplating homicide?
All the other parts were already adressed. Implementing stricter gun laws is not hampering your freedom in any way unless you are completly deluded. Also to note your liberties end where my rights begin and my right to live a life without fear of gun related violence is more important then your right to shoot some beer cans in your back yard.Why? Because I know I cant do anything about dumb people so I dont worry about it?You're a psychopath.
Also way to disregard the non-bold parts of my statement.
Because driving isn't a constitutional right. (I don't believe this is right, im not using that has my reasoning that is just answering your question)The rest of your post made me want to kill myself, thankfully my country has gun control laws so i don't own the device that'd make it easy.
But i quoted this because I agree with you on this point.
There are approximately a similar number of firearm related deaths as there are vehicular related deaths in the US each year yet you need to prove that you can capably operate a vehicle for the safety of yourself and other road users. Why the hell isn't there a similar licencing process if you want to own a gun?
If it was up to me. The Governor of every state and an elected delegation from every state would go to DC, make a new constitution, and rewrite a federal framework of laws. I think America really needs to be a confederacy to make things work better than they are now. Each region needs laws that match that region. I would much rather have a religious state than having politicians lobby to make the entire country one.
Then again I'm a Psychopath.
Last edited by Jason Marshall; July 21 2012 at 01:23:32 AM.
I just would like to remind than, on average, over 20 people are killed EVERY DAY in United States, just by handguns. Every day, about twenty individuals pull the triggers and end the life of others. Yet nobody gives a shit. But when one individual kills same daily quota, suddenly it is a national tragedy.
Let's start another thread tomorrow, discussing not one, but twenty new "deranged individuals", killing another twenty people. Which, of course, would have been prevented, if each victim would have a gun too.
Saying this. Again.
If he belives that load of shit then sure why not.You're a psychopath.
Facts of life in the US. I would be willing to bet alot of those deaths are domestic problems and gang/crime related. They aren't sensationalized because they all usually have a pretty clear motive.
I've run out of energy to deal with this level of obtuseness for today..
Jason, I don't hold a grudge against you so I'm trying to tell you this as a friend.. But your thoughts of this are utterly uneducated, ignorant and idiotic. I'm sorry to put it that bluntly, but you are making an utter fool out of yourself, and it's an embarrassment.. I know you're well intentioned, but please: if you care about your country: take responsibility as an American and start being more critical about which ideologies and opinions you adhere too. Because the things you've been citing is to an educated man what inbred hillbillies with a sub 50 IQ might be to you..
I really mean no offense, but it's utterly shocking how unable you are to maintain a discussion at this level. I don't blame you, I'm guessing education is to blame here..
If you honestly belive its possible to get all the guns out of america your pretty dumb. Gun laws just make it a bit harder for somebody who wants it for fun to get one.If he belives that load of shit then sure why not.You're a psychopath.
Translation: I am white and not married, so it does not affect me in the slightest. You are indeed a psychopath.Facts of life in the US. I would be willing to bet alot of those deaths are domestic problems and gang/crime related.
Please give me a bullet(ha bullets. guns) list of what points of mine are un-educated? Most of what ive said has been personal opinions based on what ive witnessed and read about over the years. I don't think I have even referenced a statistic.
To make it clear. Gun ownership shouldn't be a default right, it should be something you have to earn. You want to drive semi-trucks? You go get a license. You want to build homes for other people? You get licensed.
I'm also speaking from the realization that guns are here, they are in America. If you banned them outright tommorow they would remain a threat for centuries and centuries. Even if they instituted a license law or something like that all of the currently owned private guns would be grandfathered in and transferable. They are here and I chose to own them for several reasons, mostly for sport.
You start giving a fuck about every human life and get back to me. I'm not heartless, I just don't have the capacity to really care about people I don't know at all. Its sad someone died, and its sad that the people they influenced positively don't have them anymore. But I smile a little when one known criminal kills another known criminal regardless. And that's where statistics and media in general fails, is adding context to a death.
And, I am married.
Last edited by Jason Marshall; July 21 2012 at 01:39:47 AM.
Better translation: Gun laws wont change those figures much.Translation: I am white and not married, so it does not affect me in the slightest. You are indeed a psychopath.Facts of life in the US. I would be willing to bet alot of those deaths are domestic problems and gang/crime related.
I'm sick and tired of the double fucking standard around here. You assholes need to seriously stop being such hypocrites.
When this happened:
And the Mayor of Oslo responded with, and I quote...We neckbeards and armchair quarterbacks cheered them on. And cheered even louder when Jens Stoltenberg talked about responding to extremism with democracy, openness, and freedom.I don’t think security can solve problems. We need to teach greater respect.
However, because this thing happens in "LUL 'MERCA" again, we fucktards and miscreants have the audacity to pull up some standard that is in effect "over here" and we think that it needs to be enforced "over there". Then we fuck off to some other thread where we collectively bitch about America/NATO/Group X trying to apply their standard to some country full of brown people in it.
What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Where has your memory gone? Your internal monologue that is supposed to occur before you press the "submit" key? Does the hate run that deep for an entity that lives, and operates by different rules? Things happen differently in different countries, and they have different customs and practices.
Christ on a cracker, I got more intellectual discussion on the matter from a heavy equipment operator, and a pipe cutter.
I love you guys, but damn you fucking suck sometimes.
Because driving isn't a constitutional right. (I don't believe this is right, im not using that has my reasoning that is just answering your question)The rest of your post made me want to kill myself, thankfully my country has gun control laws so i don't own the device that'd make it easy.
But i quoted this because I agree with you on this point.
There are approximately a similar number of firearm related deaths as there are vehicular related deaths in the US each year yet you need to prove that you can capably operate a vehicle for the safety of yourself and other road users. Why the hell isn't there a similar licencing process if you want to own a gun?
If it was up to me. The Governor of every state and an elected delegation from every state would go to DC, make a new constitution, and rewrite a federal framework of laws. I think America really needs to be a confederacy to make things work better than they are now. Each region needs laws that match that region. I would much rather have a religious state than having politicians lobby to make the entire country one.
Then again I'm a Psychopath.
I don't think that's right either. The 14th amendment probably implicitly protects a citizen's right to drive vehicles, in accordance with the law.
As for the psychopath thing, what you said, as emboldened earlier by zeekar, was psychopathic so don't be getting all teary-eyed over it.
Im sorry for the casual nature of the comment. But really, how many people can say they are moved and truly saddened by the death of someone they have never met, never heard of, never been effected by because of any number of reasons?Because driving isn't a constitutional right. (I don't believe this is right, im not using that has my reasoning that is just answering your question)The rest of your post made me want to kill myself, thankfully my country has gun control laws so i don't own the device that'd make it easy.
But i quoted this because I agree with you on this point.
There are approximately a similar number of firearm related deaths as there are vehicular related deaths in the US each year yet you need to prove that you can capably operate a vehicle for the safety of yourself and other road users. Why the hell isn't there a similar licencing process if you want to own a gun?
If it was up to me. The Governor of every state and an elected delegation from every state would go to DC, make a new constitution, and rewrite a federal framework of laws. I think America really needs to be a confederacy to make things work better than they are now. Each region needs laws that match that region. I would much rather have a religious state than having politicians lobby to make the entire country one.
Then again I'm a Psychopath.
I don't think that's right either. The 14th amendment probably implicitly protects a citizen's right to drive vehicles, in accordance with the law.
As for the psychopath thing, what you said, as emboldened earlier by zeekar, was psychopathic so don't be getting all teary-eyed over it.
I hear a life has been taken, or see a statistic and I want to know "DO we know why they died?" depending on the answer is when I feel sorrow or not.
Thank you for also bringing this up. And I'm sorry for gutting the rest of your quote because it was a great post.
Last edited by Jason Marshall; July 21 2012 at 01:47:32 AM.
I read the thread, and while there numerous good posts and a vast amount of shit posts, one thing is certain - lol US. That's pretty much what it boils down to.
But hey, at least you get to have fun shooting guns! And protect yourself! And excercise liberty and freedom!
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So can norway to right?
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