Colorado theater shooting

[Equium Duo]

Poor guys who lost their life! It's so hard not to think "lol-America" with quotes from your leaders like the one above.

[F*** My Aunt Rita]

My experience of theatres for movies are that when the movie is playing they are very well lit and quiet so obviously anyone that had a gun could easily have taken down this guy without having to shoot in very dark surroundings.
And obviously because the area would have been well lit if there was more than one innocent with a gun, say 10, there is no way that confusion could happen causing innocents to shoot at innocents thinking they were accomplices.

No matter what you believe, your neckbeard does not give you superpower knowledge of things all firearm related.

[Marlona Sky]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

My experience of theatres for movies are that when the movie is playing they are very well lit and quiet so obviously anyone that had a gun could easily have taken down this guy without having to shoot in very dark surroundings.
And obviously because the area would have been well lit if there was more than one innocent with a gun, say 10, there is no way that confusion could happen causing innocents to shoot at innocents thinking they were accomplices.

wtf?!

[Varcaus]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

My experience of theatres for movies are that when the movie is playing they are very well lit and quiet so obviously anyone that had a gun could easily have taken down this guy without having to shoot in very dark surroundings.
And obviously because the area would have been well lit if there was more than one innocent with a gun, say 10, there is no way that confusion could happen causing innocents to shoot at innocents thinking they were accomplices.

wtf?!

Bad sarcasm mate

[ChaeDoc II]

My experience of theatres for movies are that when the movie is playing they are very well lit and quiet so obviously anyone that had a gun could easily have taken down this guy without having to shoot in very dark surroundings.
And obviously because the area would have been well lit if there was more than one innocent with a gun, say 10, there is no way that confusion could happen causing innocents to shoot at innocents thinking they were accomplices.

No matter what you believe, your neckbeard does not give you superpower knowledge of things all firearm related.

Just countering the dumb "If they all had guns in that dark place then it wouldn't have happened" argument.

Edit: from Gohmert.

[indeterminacy]

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

[Steph]

Only in America is gun-related violence met with "THIS WOULDNT HAPPEN IF THERE WERE MORE GUNS"

[Jason Marshall]

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

One statistic to rule them all.

Seriously mass shootings like this have fuck all to do with day to day gun ownership. These people are crazy and regardless of control laws they will find a way to hurt people.

[ccpl_fisher]

I liked how they (police, government, whomever... THEY) said there was "no link" to terrorism.

Isn't this the definition of it?

Don't they mean there is no link to brown people?

No you idiot, terrorism has a political agenda.

[Zeekar]

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

So because you cant prevent 100% of mass murders you will allow unhindered gun ownership pretty much making USA a third world country regarding gun violence crimes.

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

One statistic to rule them all.

Seriously mass shootings like this have fuck all to do with day to day gun ownership. These people are crazy and regardless of control laws they will find a way to hurt people.

Just look at things objectively.

Do stricter gun laws cause there to be less gun related crime/violence?

If the answer is yes then implement such laws.
If the answer is no then dont.

Answer is clearly yes tho

[ccpl_fisher]

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

So because you cant prevent 100% of mass murders you will allow unhindered gun ownership pretty much making USA a third world country regarding gun violence crimes.

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

One statistic to rule them all.

Seriously mass shootings like this have fuck all to do with day to day gun ownership. These people are crazy and regardless of control laws they will find a way to hurt people.

Just look at things objectively.

Do stricter gun laws cause there to be less gun related crime/violence?

If the answer is yes then implement such laws.
If the answer is no then dont.

Answer is clearly yes tho

Gun control may reduce gun violence, but it does not reduce the overall level of crime.

[Chrien]

Ah good old anti-American rants. Knew I could count on you.

You're right, it's counter productive. Sorry. I can at least fall back on numerous posts today that engage pro-gun law proponents in as civil a manner as I can.

I've just been following all the news development today and discussing gun laws all day with a number of conservatives and I'm not quite dead inside yet. It kinda affects me to hear people say shit like "Those 12 people only died because Muslim Obama is trying to take our guns." It's just so incredibly offensive that it just makes me tremble at the very core of my humanity.

You shouldn't apologise for being right.

[Jason Marshall]

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

So because you cant prevent 100% of mass murders you will allow unhindered gun ownership pretty much making USA a third world country regarding gun violence crimes.

He was crazy. If he couldnt have gotten a gun he would have used a knife. Or made a bomb. Crazy people will always find a way. You cant have freedom without risking people using that freedom in a bad way sadly.

Statistics disagree with you.
Simply check gun violence in other western countries which pretty much all have stricter gun laws then USA and compare. The difference is staggering. But please continue to spew bullshit like GUNS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MY FREEDOM since most people who are for this seem to think life isnt essential to freedom.

That means nothing when it comes to pre-meditated mass murder. Chicago's gun/gang violence isn't the same. They are a completely different type of crime. So saying "statistics" means fuck all.

One statistic to rule them all.

Seriously mass shootings like this have fuck all to do with day to day gun ownership. These people are crazy and regardless of control laws they will find a way to hurt people.

Just look at things objectively.

Do stricter gun laws cause there to be less gun related crime/violence?

If the answer is yes then implement such laws.
If the answer is no then dont.

Answer is clearly yes tho

Why don't we just euthanize crazies?


Im not arguing that stricter gun laws dont reduce gun related crimes. This is a thread about a mass shooting. Stricter gun laws would not prevent these sorts of things from happening.

I believe they bring more good than harm when in the hands of responsible adults and darwin will take care of the rest overtime. Its sad gun violence happen and I really feel bad when adults dont store them properly and kids get hurt. But that's the downside of this freedom. Bad's are gunna bad.

If I was going to support any one change to American gun law it would be to make it a requirement to get training and to prove that you have the proper storage. This makes responsible honest types do it right, and it adds more charges for a DA to lay onto those gang types and general bads.

[Zeekar]

Gun control may reduce gun violence, but it does not reduce the overall level of crime.

First I would like a source for that.

Second it influences crime rates where death is the outcome. Simple list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate
Please note the column homicides.

[F*** My Aunt Rita]

If guns=freedom, then america is exporting loads of freedom all over mexicos ass.

[XenosisReaper]

Wouldn't have happened if Batman had a gun

[indeterminacy]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

Oh look, somebody said something stupid and not a single fuck was given. News at 11?

[Kanv]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

My experience of theatres for movies are that when the movie is playing they are very well lit and quiet so obviously anyone that had a gun could easily have taken down this guy without having to shoot in very dark surroundings.
And obviously because the area would have been well lit if there was more than one innocent with a gun, say 10, there is no way that confusion could happen causing innocents to shoot at innocents thinking they were accomplices.

You forgot to mention that tear gas improves peoples ability to see properly

[Zeekar]

Why don't we just euthanize crazies?


Im not arguing that stricter gun laws dont reduce gun related crimes. This is a thread about a mass shooting. Stricter gun laws would not prevent these sorts of things from happening.

I believe they bring more good than harm when in the hands of responsible adults and darwin will take care of the rest overtime. Its sad gun violence happen and I really feel bad when adults dont store them properly and kids get hurt. But that's the downside of this freedom. Bad's are gunna bad.

If I was going to support any one change to American gun law it would be to make it a requirement to get training and to prove that you have the proper storage. This makes responsible honest types do it right, and it adds more charges for a DA to lay onto those gang types and general bads.

You're a psychopath.

[Jason Marshall]

Gun control may reduce gun violence, but it does not reduce the overall level of crime.

First I would like a source for that.

Second it influences crime rates where death is the outcome. Simple list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate
Please note the column homicides.

Again.. Would someone capable of homicide not do it because they didn't have a gun?

The problem is mental health diagnosis and treatment.

We have suicide hotlines? Why no hotlines for people contemplating homicide?

Why don't we just euthanize crazies?


Im not arguing that stricter gun laws dont reduce gun related crimes. This is a thread about a mass shooting. Stricter gun laws would not prevent these sorts of things from happening.

I believe they bring more good than harm when in the hands of responsible adults and darwin will take care of the rest overtime. Its sad gun violence happen and I really feel bad when adults dont store them properly and kids get hurt. But that's the downside of this freedom. Bad's are gunna bad.

If I was going to support any one change to American gun law it would be to make it a requirement to get training and to prove that you have the proper storage. This makes responsible honest types do it right, and it adds more charges for a DA to lay onto those gang types and general bads.

You're a psychopath.

Why? Because I know I cant do anything about dumb people so I dont worry about it?

Also way to disregard the non-bold parts of my statement.