Colorado theater shooting

[Bartholomeus Crane]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

[Destoration]

5 pages in, that means there's a 99% chance that someone made a guns=freedom argument.

If the government were to take away my right to bear arms in this glorious country called America it would literally be hitler. Guns keep America free even if I only have a air pistol.

^ just incase

You were way too slow.

Yea I know can't stop watching this australian girl....

[Varcaus]

Armed police officers in Britain have a bit of a shit deal tbh, that whole escapade last august because cops shot mark duggan is a great example, the guy had a handgun and armed officers shot him, people complained that he hadn't done anything threatening with it and pointed to the Independent police complaints commission's swift decision to investigate as a sign that it should not have occurred. Firstly despite every plausible form of news coverage on the matter none really seemed too hasty to mention that whenever an officer fires his gun in the line of duty here he is instantly placed on suspension and an IPCC investigation is mandatory, you could be shooting at godzilla attacking an orphanage and you'd still have to spend months explaining it and filling in paperwork. The fact that the suspect didn't point the gun at anyone was hardly a reason not to shoot him, he had a handgun, we can deduce that he intended to shoot someone and thus he was shot first.

That turned into a mini-rant... anyway, my point, guns are not useful for anything but harm and people use them for that, it's harder to kill quite so many people without access to one of mankind's most efficient methods of murder but as far as america goes the horse has left the stable.

Guns arnt very efficient other than speed tbh. Need lots of ammo need to be close or well trained and clear lines of site or know were someone is.

[Jason Marshall]

Armed police officers in Britain have a bit of a shit deal tbh, that whole escapade last august because cops shot mark duggan is a great example, the guy had a handgun and armed officers shot him, people complained that he hadn't done anything threatening with it and pointed to the Independent police complaints commission's swift decision to investigate as a sign that it should not have occurred. Firstly despite every plausible form of news coverage on the matter none really seemed too hasty to mention that whenever an officer fires his gun in the line of duty here he is instantly placed on suspension and an IPCC investigation is mandatory, you could be shooting at godzilla attacking an orphanage and you'd still have to spend months explaining it and filling in paperwork. The fact that the suspect didn't point the gun at anyone was hardly a reason not to shoot him, he had a handgun, we can deduce that he intended to shoot someone and thus he was shot first.

That turned into a mini-rant... anyway, my point, guns are not useful for anything but harm and people use them for that, it's harder to kill quite so many people without access to one of mankind's most efficient methods of murder but as far as america goes the horse has left the stable.

Guns arnt very efficient other than speed tbh. Need lots of ammo need to be close or well trained and clear lines of site or know were someone is.

I used to believe guns have no purpose in life. Then I moved to Alaska.

Also they are fun. *cryingeagle.jpg*

[Varcaus]

Armed police officers in Britain have a bit of a shit deal tbh, that whole escapade last august because cops shot mark duggan is a great example, the guy had a handgun and armed officers shot him, people complained that he hadn't done anything threatening with it and pointed to the Independent police complaints commission's swift decision to investigate as a sign that it should not have occurred. Firstly despite every plausible form of news coverage on the matter none really seemed too hasty to mention that whenever an officer fires his gun in the line of duty here he is instantly placed on suspension and an IPCC investigation is mandatory, you could be shooting at godzilla attacking an orphanage and you'd still have to spend months explaining it and filling in paperwork. The fact that the suspect didn't point the gun at anyone was hardly a reason not to shoot him, he had a handgun, we can deduce that he intended to shoot someone and thus he was shot first.

That turned into a mini-rant... anyway, my point, guns are not useful for anything but harm and people use them for that, it's harder to kill quite so many people without access to one of mankind's most efficient methods of murder but as far as america goes the horse has left the stable.

Guns arnt very efficient other than speed tbh. Need lots of ammo need to be close or well trained and clear lines of site or know were someone is.

I used to believe guns have no purpose in life. Then I moved to Alaska.

Also they are fun. *cryingeagle.jpg*

Dat sound. Only really matched by the sound of a crossbow imo.

[Zeekar]

Move to a civilized country you will figure out that their purpose is only for fun.

[Varcaus]

Move to a civilized country you will figure out that their purpose is only for fun.

Nobody hunts in civilized countries, How will I will I get my deer jerky?

[tulip]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

[Jason Marshall]

Move to a civilized country you will figure out that their purpose is only for fun.

Nobody hunts in civilized countries, How will I will I get my deer jerky?

^^^^^^

Fresh deer jerky is da best.
Also moose steak.

[erichkknaar]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

Yeah, well, he's one of the retarded fuckwads who co-signed Bachmann's letter accusing Huma Abedin of infiltrating the state department on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood. nbs.

[Zeekar]

Move to a civilized country you will figure out that their purpose is only for fun.

Nobody hunts in civilized countries, How will I will I get my deer jerky?

They do. Well they mostly drink and then shoot at deer. But they do hunt!

[Roam]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

Americans: Why the EVER LOVING SHIT is a man like that a representative in your governing body? I'm finding it so hard to maintain my cynical "lol'Merica" approach here, when I see so much death and suffering your country creates without its citizens taking any responsibility for the batshit insane things that are happening there.

[Varcaus]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

Americans: Why the EVER LOVING SHIT is a man like that a representative in your governing body? I'm finding it so hard to maintain my cynical "lol'Merica" approach here, when I see so much death and suffering your country creates without its citizens taking any responsibility for the batshit insane things that are happening there.

He's from Texas

[Marlona Sky]

Ah good old anti-American rants. Knew I could count on you.

[Zeekar]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

Americans: Why the EVER LOVING SHIT is a man like that a representative in your governing body? I'm finding it so hard to maintain my cynical "lol'Merica" approach here, when I see so much death and suffering your country creates without its citizens taking any responsibility for the batshit insane things that are happening there.

He's from Texas

Solution: Nuke Texas.

[Varcaus]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

Americans: Why the EVER LOVING SHIT is a man like that a representative in your governing body? I'm finding it so hard to maintain my cynical "lol'Merica" approach here, when I see so much death and suffering your country creates without its citizens taking any responsibility for the batshit insane things that are happening there.

He's from Texas

Solution: Nuke Texas.

Fine with me

[Bartholomeus Crane]

Armed police officers in Britain have a bit of a shit deal tbh, that whole escapade last august because cops shot mark duggan is a great example, the guy had a handgun and armed officers shot him, people complained that he hadn't done anything threatening with it and pointed to the Independent police complaints commission's swift decision to investigate as a sign that it should not have occurred. Firstly despite every plausible form of news coverage on the matter none really seemed too hasty to mention that whenever an officer fires his gun in the line of duty here he is instantly placed on suspension and an IPCC investigation is mandatory, you could be shooting at godzilla attacking an orphanage and you'd still have to spend months explaining it and filling in paperwork. The fact that the suspect didn't point the gun at anyone was hardly a reason not to shoot him, he had a handgun, we can deduce that he intended to shoot someone and thus he was shot first.

That turned into a mini-rant... anyway, my point, guns are not useful for anything but harm and people use them for that, it's harder to kill quite so many people without access to one of mankind's most efficient methods of murder but as far as america goes the horse has left the stable.

Guns arnt very efficient other than speed tbh. Need lots of ammo need to be close or well trained and clear lines of site or know were someone is.

You're nuts right? Ofcourse some high explosive would be easier, but apart from that, using a gun it is a lot easier to cause a lot harm than just about anything readily available (at least in the US). This has nothing to do with speed, or ammo, or, in a busy place, with skill. In a crowd it is basically point and shoot and someone will either dead or hurting very badly indeed.

There's a reason why guns are still quite popular for fighting wars and such. Any child can pull a trigger.

Which is why it is so ludicrous that guns are still available to basically every Tom, Dick, and Harry who can walk into a Wallmart and put an X on the dotted line. (And don't give me that shit about hunting: know anyone who goes out deer-hunting with a handgun or an Uzi? Well, anyone sane I mean?)

[Roam]

Ah good old anti-American rants. Knew I could count on you.

You're right, it's counter productive. Sorry. I can at least fall back on numerous posts today that engage pro-gun law proponents in as civil a manner as I can.

I've just been following all the news development today and discussing gun laws all day with a number of conservatives and I'm not quite dead inside yet. It kinda affects me to hear people say shit like "Those 12 people only died because Muslim Obama is trying to take our guns." It's just so incredibly offensive that it just makes me tremble at the very core of my humanity.

[ChaeDoc II]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

My experience of theatres for movies are that when the movie is playing they are very well lit and quiet so obviously anyone that had a gun could easily have taken down this guy without having to shoot in very dark surroundings.
And obviously because the area would have been well lit if there was more than one innocent with a gun, say 10, there is no way that confusion could happen causing innocents to shoot at innocents thinking they were accomplices.

[Roam]

I don't know, but some in the GOP have a clear opinion on why this happened: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html.

I mean, wow, just wow dude ...

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

Shit, that guy beat FHC to the "wouldn't have happened if everyone else had guns" line, mad props to him...

My experience of theatres for movies are that when the movie is playing they are very well lit and quiet so obviously anyone that had a gun could easily have taken down this guy without having to shoot in very dark surroundings.
And obviously because the area would have been well lit if there was more than one innocent with a gun, say 10, there is no way that confusion could happen causing innocents to shoot at innocents thinking they were accomplices.

See my previous post on the previous page that kinda got lost even though I put a lot of time in it. Linkie for the lazy