Federal law requires a background check, it's not something a state can dictate. If he was a felon it wouldn't be possible to just walk in and buy anything. He could still buy it from someone personally though.Originally Posted by Dark Flare
Since you don't have to have a background check or permit to buy guns in Colorado he probably just walked into a shop and bought them.
Will probably happen about the same time everyone gets rid of their nuclear weapons or the sun freezes over :P
Unsure if this guy was looking at doing as much damage as possible why he would tip the police off that his apartment was booby trapped with explosives?
stop focusing on how to stop people doing this again and focus on why people do this please governments, i mean if a guy wants to go on a rampage he can use his car and ram into a school bus or a petrol station ect, stop trying to blame movies/games/guns thnx
So now you are stating that terrorism is defined by the goal of the person inflicting it. In your previous post you statedYou think their goal is to cause terror and kill people?So you think spiders are engaged in terrorism against people with acute arachnophobia?The insane thing is that terrorism seems to be determined by the reason someone like this does this sort of thing and not the act itself, as if the people being shot to pieces are in terror for anything other than the hail of rifle fire raining down on them.There's no link to a movement or any real purpose to this. Just like school shootings here don't generally get labeled as terrorism. Also I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in another city that it would be called terrorism.
Any more dumb questions?
"The insane thing is that terrorism seems to be determined by the reason someone like this does this sort of thing"
Which is what I was trying to prove wrong with my example. Thank you for proving my point.
Any more dumb contradictory posts, or are you done?
He wasn't a felon yet though was he.Federal law requires a background check, it's not something a state can dictate. If he was a felon it wouldn't be possible to just walk in and buy anything. He could still buy it from someone personally though.Since you don't have to have a background check or permit to buy guns in Colorado he probably just walked into a shop and bought them.
Every time some one mentions gun control in the USA i always think of this quote from Night Watch.
Its going to take such a massive amount of effort to bring down gun related violence to what people in Europe would consider normal that I wouldn't be shocked if we never lived long enough to see that even if they started today. There is just too many guns/ammo already in public possession to ever get it all back and to keep it away from criminals/crazy people.There had been that Weapons Law, for a start. Weapons were involved in so many crimes that. Swing reasoned, reducing the number of weapons had to reduce the crime rate.
Vimes wondered if he'd sat up in bed in the middle of the night and hugged himself when he'd dreamed that one up. Confiscate all weapons, and crime would go down. It made sense. It would have worked, too, if only there had been enough coppers - say, three per citizen.
Amazingly, quite a few weapons were handed in. The flaw though, was one that had somehow managed to escape Swing' and it was this: criminals don't obey the law. It's more or less a requirement for the job. They had no particular interest in making the streets safer for anyone except themselves. …
Its just too late for the entire of America when it comes to gun control. All they can do now is wait for hand held lasers to come along and make sure they dont sell millions of those to every one with $100.
So when he purchased the weapons he was a law abiding citizen. Meaning no matter how long the waiting period is, or how long the background check he still would have bought the weapons. So what was the point behind pointing out Colorado's limited gun laws?He wasn't a felon yet though was he.Federal law requires a background check, it's not something a state can dictate. If he was a felon it wouldn't be possible to just walk in and buy anything. He could still buy it from someone personally though.Since you don't have to have a background check or permit to buy guns in Colorado he probably just walked into a shop and bought them.
It being Colorado. Im surprised someone didn't shoot back.
The legal definition of domestic terrorism:
Seems to need some ideological element to it. That's not to say this guy doesn't, but a lone crazy shooting up a cinema full of people, while a horrific act, is not terrorism."Acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."
meh
So now you are stating that terrorism is defined by the goal of the person inflicting it. In your previous post you statedYou think their goal is to cause terror and kill people?So you think spiders are engaged in terrorism against people with acute arachnophobia?The insane thing is that terrorism seems to be determined by the reason someone like this does this sort of thing and not the act itself, as if the people being shot to pieces are in terror for anything other than the hail of rifle fire raining down on them.There's no link to a movement or any real purpose to this. Just like school shootings here don't generally get labeled as terrorism. Also I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in another city that it would be called terrorism.
Any more dumb questions?
"The insane thing is that terrorism seems to be determined by the reason someone like this does this sort of thing"
Which is what I was trying to prove wrong with my example. Thank you for proving my point.
Any more dumb contradictory posts, or are you done?
Ok, i see we're going to argue semantics...
"The insane thing is that terrorism seems to be determined by the reason someone like this does this sort of thing" doesn't exclude their reason as a factor in coming to the conclusion of terrorism but does require additional factors like the fact that it is someone deliberately committing a crime of mass murder with the intention to cause terror along with actual terror being brought upon a large group of people.
What is was saying is that if i go and kill 50 people in a theatre for shits and giggles it's a crime by a lone madman but if I kill those same people because i dislike my country's leader I'm a terrorist. How is it that I'm not both?
Last edited by ChaeDoc II; July 20 2012 at 06:53:52 PM.
It's illegal to carry into a theater since there's a door charge.
Clearly, everyone in the theater should have had guns AND tactical body armor, just as the Founding Fathers intended.
Edit: since someone will try point out the fallacy of this argument... Yes, night-vision optics goes without saying, this is a dark theater after all.
Last edited by Don Rumata; July 20 2012 at 07:06:02 PM.
I'm guessing that over the course of a few weeks it will be determined that the university he is currently dropping out off missed several signs that the suspect was descending into crisis.
Last edited by indeterminacy; July 20 2012 at 07:11:06 PM.
Civilians ok, but police? Wtf dude. Great idea. Oh, that whackjob/gang member is shooting at bystanders or attacking a bank/whatever? Guess I will charge him with my trusty night stick!
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Ah.It's illegal to carry into a theater since there's a door charge.
Civilians ok, but police? Wtf dude. Great idea. Oh, that whackjob/gang member is shooting at bystanders or attacking a bank/whatever? Guess I will charge him with my trusty night stick!
Typical police in the UK don't carry guns and but for situations you describe there are armed units.
How long before ticket stubs from that showing show up on ebay?
Sounds like a business opportunity. A chain of NRA-friendly, all-weapons-allowed theaters. Double-wide seats to accommodate typical patron's physique, bulletproof movie screens to allow "interactive experience".It's illegal to carry into a theater since there's a door charge.
No cover charge. Ticket fees added directly to annual NRA membership bill. Family discounts available.
Dont forget VIP booths where alcohol is severed from the tap.Sounds like a business opportunity. A chain of NRA-friendly, all-weapons-allowed theaters. Double-wide seats to accommodate typical patron's physique, bulletproof movie screens to allow "interactive experience".It's illegal to carry into a theater since there's a door charge.
No cover charge. Ticket fees added directly to annual NRA membership bill. Family discounts available.
Guessing Anarkia was talking about a world where police were completely unarmed.Civilians ok, but police? Wtf dude. Great idea. Oh, that whackjob/gang member is shooting at bystanders or attacking a bank/whatever? Guess I will charge him with my trusty night stick!
Typical police in the UK don't carry guns and but for situations you describe there are armed units.
Although our police (UK) don't carry guns more and more are carrying Tasers.
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