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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpy Torrin View Post
    Don't need to sell it. Hype will get us through. Right?
    It works for Apple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho Void View Post
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    Don't need to sell it. Hype will get us through. Right?
    It works for Apple.
    In b4 apple launches patent litigation over their trademarked hype generation process.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho Void View Post
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    Don't need to sell it. Hype will get us through. Right?
    It works for Apple.
    It does indeed. And Microsoft is as loved by fanboys as much as apple so its all good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpy Torrin View Post
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    Don't need to sell it. Hype will get us through. Right?
    It works for Apple.
    It does indeed. And Microsoft is as loved by fanboys as much as apple so its all good!
    That's really the key.
    People have liked Apple products in the past. Their stuff is consistently high quality. Even people like me who don't like some of their practices (locked down app store) tend to admit that their products are well made.
    People have disliked Microsoft products in the past. Their stuff is consistently budget quality. While some more recent products (win 7) have been better others (Zune, Win 8 preview, xbox360 rrod, etc) have been consistent with their classic badly-designed-and-buggy appearance.
    When a company with a history of releasing good products announces a new product it's likely to be good. When a company with a history of releasing mediocre products announces a new product, it's likely to be mediocre. Apple's ads require Apple's reputation to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAI Peregrinus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Derpy Torrin View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpy Torrin View Post
    Don't need to sell it. Hype will get us through. Right?
    It works for Apple.
    It does indeed. And Microsoft is as loved by fanboys as much as apple so its all good!
    That's really the key.
    People have liked Apple products in the past. Their stuff is consistently high quality. Even people like me who don't like some of their practices (locked down app store) tend to admit that their products are well made.
    People have disliked Microsoft products in the past. Their stuff is consistently budget quality. While some more recent products (win 7) have been better others (Zune, Win 8 preview, xbox360 rrod, etc) have been consistent with their classic badly-designed-and-buggy appearance.
    When a company with a history of releasing good products announces a new product it's likely to be good. When a company with a history of releasing mediocre products announces a new product, it's likely to be mediocre. Apple's ads require Apple's reputation to work.
    I like how you took what I said in 2 lines and turned it in to a fucking novel.

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    I installed Ubuntu and Win 8 onto my little apu pc using the standard install drivers and win 8 is not what I was expecting from peoples comments, its running better and smoother than ubuntu (so far) although I put that down to less than polished AMD/ATI drivers for linux.

    Although I've only just started playing around with the interface, the one thing I have noticed on Win 8 (and the same on Win 7 phones) is that its so responsive and the movements more enjoyable/ natural/ organic than my android devices, and what I've experienced with iOS on an IPAD (i've not used an Ipad2 so no idea what the comparisson there is). Unlike what seems to be the majority of people, I like the metro interface and the ease at which you can switch to normal desktop mode.. I even like the menus, was about time windows got a gui upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerbus View Post
    I installed Ubuntu and Win 8 onto my little apu pc using the standard install drivers and win 8 is not what I was expecting from peoples comments, its running better and smoother than ubuntu (so far) although I put that down to less than polished AMD/ATI drivers for linux.

    Although I've only just started playing around with the interface, the one thing I have noticed on Win 8 (and the same on Win 7 phones) is that its so responsive and the movements more enjoyable/ natural/ organic than my android devices, and what I've experienced with iOS on an IPAD (i've not used an Ipad2 so no idea what the comparisson there is). Unlike what seems to be the majority of people, I like the metro interface and the ease at which you can switch to normal desktop mode.. I even like the menus, was about time windows got a gui upgrade.

    :3
    First off ubuntu has gone to shit and everyone uses mint now. That's not going to fix your graphics problems but I will fix the god awful shit that is unity.

    Secondly, did you just compare Win8 to Android and iOS?

    Both these OS are shit on a desktop. This is why Apple don't use iOS on laptops and only idiots try and shoehorn driod on to one. Windows however will be run on desktops all over the world. With s mouse, all your awesome review gos to shit. With no multimonitor support, so does win8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerbus View Post
    I installed Ubuntu and Win 8 onto my little apu pc using the standard install drivers and win 8 is not what I was expecting from peoples comments, its running better and smoother than ubuntu (so far) although I put that down to less than polished AMD/ATI drivers for linux.

    Although I've only just started playing around with the interface, the one thing I have noticed on Win 8 (and the same on Win 7 phones) is that its so responsive and the movements more enjoyable/ natural/ organic than my android devices, and what I've experienced with iOS on an IPAD (i've not used an Ipad2 so no idea what the comparisson there is). Unlike what seems to be the majority of people, I like the metro interface and the ease at which you can switch to normal desktop mode.. I even like the menus, was about time windows got a gui upgrade.

    :3
    First off ubuntu has gone to shit and everyone uses mint now. That's not going to fix your graphics problems but I will fix the god awful shit that is unity.

    Secondly, did you just compare Win8 to Android and iOS?

    Both these OS are shit on a desktop. This is why Apple don't use iOS on laptops and only idiots try and shoehorn driod on to one. Windows however will be run on desktops all over the world. With s mouse, all your awesome review gos to shit. With no multimonitor support, so does win8.

    What is this 1985?
    I was refering more to the metro interface than the operating system itself as obviously theres little comparisson; I've used it on a Nokia Lumia and it was great, Loved it infact, much more so than other mobile OS's.

    Regarding Ubuntu and Unity my friend told me exactly the same thing earlier and I'll be downloading linux mint and trying that instead - I've not really played with linux too often so its not something I'm very knowlegable about.

    Using android with a mouse is actually quite common now, especially with all the tiny "pcs" (cellphones without screens) that are available all over the place now. Obviously its not designed for a mouse, but without a touchscreen interface theres not much I can do apart from removing android and installing linux mint or whatever flavour I can find that runs ok on such a small powerless device - which will happen when a compatible version is found.

    I didn't know there was no multiscreen support for win 8 and this saddens me considering I have 4 video cards, but I don't see this lasting very long - considering how many people dual, triple and multi screen. Wasn't it Microsoft who originally sold multiscreening to business' with their 60% more efficiency marketing?
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    There are 2 version of windows 8. The ARM version is gimped and lacks support for loads of common stuff like multi monitors and joining a windoze domain.

    The normal version is the PC version we all know from windows 7, but with metro UI bolted on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balistic void View Post
    There are 2 version of windows 8. The ARM version is gimped and lacks support for loads of common stuff like multi monitors and joining a windoze domain.

    The normal version is the PC version we all know from windows 7, but with metro UI bolted on top.
    Ahh thanks for clarifying.

    Some things I've noticed in no particular order:

    You can't change the designs of the boxes on metro, what the fuck is up with that :3 Annoying.

    Clicking the windows button when you've opened a settings menu just alternates between metro and that menu, and wont take you to the desktop.. and I can't figure out how to quit these menus so I need some sort of Desktop App... am I clueless or is it supposed to be like that?

    Now that I'm actually trying to use win8 for multiple general tasks rather than just loading specific things I'm starting to see why theres so much negative rep, although I have found a work around for the missing start menu.

    This kinda reminds me of CCP spending lots of development time on Avatars rather than just focusing on the actual game.

    I'd take back some of my words from before but I'm too busy trying to find out how to restart my computer :3
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    now imagine having to foist that on hundreds, if not thousands of users with levels of computer literacy varying between your grandmother and the kind of people posting here.

    there are easier ways to get uniformly hated, but i am struggling to find one that's this effective.

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    Is there still no comprehensive start tutorial yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    Is there still no comprehensive start tutorial yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by balistic void View Post
    There are 2 version of windows 8. The ARM version is gimped and lacks support for loads of common stuff like multi monitors and joining a windoze domain.

    The normal version is the PC version we all know from windows 7, but with metro UI bolted on top.
    That's the thing though, the OS will work fine with 3 or 4 monitors but metro doesn't. It will just show the same thing in both (all) screens. At least the RC version I tried did anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balistic void View Post
    There are 2 version of windows 8. The ARM version is gimped and lacks support for loads of common stuff like multi monitors and joining a windoze domain.

    The normal version is the PC version we all know from windows 7, but with metro UI bolted on top.


    The ARM version isn't meant to be for people with loads of screens and domains :/ it's for tablets and middle aged moms who watch desperate housewives too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whispous View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by balistic void View Post
    There are 2 version of windows 8. The ARM version is gimped and lacks support for loads of common stuff like multi monitors and joining a windoze domain.

    The normal version is the PC version we all know from windows 7, but with metro UI bolted on top.


    The ARM version isn't meant to be for people with loads of screens and domains :/ it's for tablets and middle aged moms who watch desperate housewives too much.
    kindly remove the grease stained glasses and look at where Microsoft is forcing the Metro interface into.

    say small things like having the "new and fantastic!" metrozoid Outlook open alongside the "new and fantastic!" metrozoid Excel is impossible, regardless of the presence of two screens, but you can have a 33/66 split on both screens, at the same time!

    (acturally, the new office has a sort of mongrel UI that forces metro onto the regular desktop, as usual the office team is not talking to the OS team, though for once it's a really good fucking thing™)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whispous View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by balistic void View Post
    There are 2 version of windows 8. The ARM version is gimped and lacks support for loads of common stuff like multi monitors and joining a windoze domain.

    The normal version is the PC version we all know from windows 7, but with metro UI bolted on top.



    The ARM version isn't meant to be for people with loads of screens and domains :/ it's for tablets and middle aged moms who watch desperate housewives too much.
    kindly remove the grease stained glasses and look at where Microsoft is forcing the Metro interface into.

    say small things like having the "new and fantastic!" metrozoid Outlook open alongside the "new and fantastic!" metrozoid Excel is impossible, regardless of the presence of two screens, but you can have a 33/66 split on both screens, at the same time!

    (acturally, the new office has a sort of mongrel UI that forces metro onto the regular desktop, as usual the office team is not talking to the OS team, though for once it's a really good fucking thing™)
    Yea, we were talking about the lack of certain items in the ARM edition, not the whole other issue of Metro. Hurrr.


    EDIT: and you're overlooking what the ARM edition is for. Please tell me you don't plan on having an ARM chip with the expectation of it to be as useful as a regular PC chip? You wouldn't have multiple screens... for your tablet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whispous View Post
    [EDIT: and you're overlooking what the ARM edition is for. Please tell me you don't plan on having an ARM chip with the expectation of it to be as useful as a regular PC chip? You wouldn't have multiple screens... for your tablet.
    Why not? The iPad supports 2 displays.

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    "hey everybody, let's neuter our OS on a competing chip type while leveraging our monopoly over with completely redicilous terms attached!"

    many tablets have either DP or HDMI ports, when the "future" gets here and transformer like devices take over, its going to be the norm not the exception that they are there.

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    It's not a case of them deliberately neutering it as such, I read that they simply didn't get time to port a lot of features to ARM.

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