you had a pool?Originally Posted by Helen
you had a pool?
It's a go-to statistic for assessing discipline and suchlike in schools. Every time someone is suspended it's another little black mark against the school's record.
When I was in Grade 5 both years would play a game with mixed elements of Rugby and Soccer. One day a game got particularly heated and there was a sort of ruck over the ball that collapsed into a very large dogpile. Me and one of the kids in my class were outside of this mess and started dragging kids off. I accidentally grabbed an amputee (who I didn't know was an amputee) and tore off his Darth Maul stickered prosthetic leg but my classmate took it a step further and grabbed a girl by the arms, swung her around like a hammer throw and launched her into a nearby fence. She was hospitalized for a couple weeks with some sort of nerve damage in the neck. The kid got a month suspension whereas in the real world he'd have gotten charged with aggravated assault.in my own experience, schools seem quite unenthusiastic to actually expel someone. maybe they lose money or something? idk, OP can educate us. one summer there was a craze of chasing the year below around the field, then kicking the fucking shit out of them. one boy got caught, and a guy in my year basically jumped on his neck. kid suffered compression fractures on his spine, was in hospital for fucking ages and has to wear a fucking brace now
the dude that did it, 8 weeks suspension. if that was in the adult world, he'd be in fucking prison.
I think its partially the way schools go easy on kid's now but also partially because kid's will be kid's. I still know the guy who did the throwing and he's a stand up fellow (as far as I know). How long should he have been suspended for? How do you separate a violent child from a child that got caught up in the moment or made a mistake? Is a long term suspension really the answer?
Your posting is medium, its not rare and its not well done
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If that happened to me as a kid I'd literally kill him before I was 18. Not even remotely joking.
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This is a good thread and you should feel good Chakrai
Confirming it is pretty much impossible to get expelled outright in England, I stole a combined total of about £100 from classmates and it took about 30 angry parents ringing up for the school to finally go from suspending me to "We're going to :ask: you to leave"
Bear in mind this was a £9k a term private school though, so I don't know if it's any different in slumtown or wherever.
Wow some of you guys were real assholes at school... I'm actually genuinely surprised
I didn't mean to tear of his leg! And he didn't have to chase me down hopping on his one good leg swinging the prosthetic at me menacingly.Wow some of you guys were real assholes at school... I'm actually genuinely surprised
I think the only bad thing I did at school was traffick in explosives and soft drugs.
Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.
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Alot of my old teachers are facebook friends and I genuinely appreciated the things they taught me.Wow some of you guys were real assholes at school... I'm actually genuinely surprised
Hey man I do him to stop making fun of me his problem if he got choked out. (and i didnt get in trouble to boot)Wow some of you guys were real assholes at school... I'm actually genuinely surprised
So what you are saying is chavs everywhere...
meh
Woooohoooo, fellow teachers and victims!
Nah, seriously now, I just finished a master's in education in Germany (can't teach with a bachelor, the master's is a state exam as well) and will be hopefully starting the second part of German teacher training this Summer. My state thinks it is appropriate to tell you were you will be teaching and learning for the next two years two weeks before you start. Hence I am desperately waiting for that letter to reach me.
During my uni education I did an internship in Southern Germany at a school with as it was called here a bottom set of students. All of them. And they behaved surprisingly well, way above my expectations. There was little to no violence or obvious drug abuse though I am fairly certain that they did some drugs. However on a bus ride back from a class trip to Sachsenhausen, I overheard a conversation between a girl and three boys from her class, age 14, maybe 16 at the most. However the girl was not older than 14. Anyway, after they talked about alcohol, hooka, violent movies rated 18+ and hardcore porn at high volume, they switched their topic. This time they spoke more softly about how much the girl was charging and what services she performed
Spoiler:
I was reading a newspaper (well, at this point I wasn't even reading anymore), the other two teachers were both asleep. Sure enough, I was shocked about what I heard, not about the sex, but about the prostitution. Especially when I heard the boys mention the prices of another girl in a different class. Not sure what to make of it, I waited and contemplated about it and went to the school's social worker the next week. She was not shocked nor surprised, the prostitution was only one more escalation of the promiscuity of the girls in the school.
Before you ask, none of the girls tried to hit on me, but then most of time I taught and observed the 6th graders, which were between 12 and 14 due to them repeating a school year or two for bad performance.
Getting expelled from school is nigh impossible in Germany as well. There is a law requiring children to go to school until 18 here. That means that even if a school kicks out a kid, it will have to go to some school. My mother is a teacher as well, she more than once decided along with her school not to kick out children for they would not be better anywhere else anyway "and we already know how to deal with him/her". They may never graduate, but they will not be kicked out either. Another result of the law is the possibility to have the police pick up regular absentees at home in the morning. Usually however the threat of the police showing is enough to convince the parents and the kids to make sure the children show up.
As to school violence, until they are 14 they cannot be charged with any crime anyway in Germany. Between 14 and 18 (or 21, depends on maturity of the person in question) they will be charged as juveniles. The courts are to use sentences intended to "make the juvenile a better citizen" - there is a German word for it that I simply cannot quite translate, the word field includes educating, teaching, upbringing, disciplining, parenting. At 21 one's criminal record gets wiped clean of all but current court sentences and certain serious crimes.
nevar forget
Rehabilitation?
Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.
"You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."
Taught in Japan schools for a few years, and spent a couple of years teaching history in California. A bad Japanese school is going to be really BAD, since everyone 15 and under cant be disciplined or punished in any way. Took a desk to the head once after I told a student to stop setting fire to his neighbors textbook. I had to apologize to his parents afterwards for interfering with his educational rights. Whenever someone starts talking about how awesome the education system is I tend to start laughing.
So, why don't I teach anymore? Well, I was working a 60% contract for the final semester of a school being closed for Title V violations. Went to a one day conference the district was holding for all the staff being dislocated, and came back to find that my six of my 1st period kids had gotten drunk off ever clear and vomited all over my desk, computer, and the substitute. Sub decided to leave for the day, and the office didn't send a replacement. My TA and another student snuck away, hid out in the girls bathroom, and gang raped a 7th Grader.
My school tried to cover up the whole thing to avoid a liability lawsuit, and convinced the girl not to press charges. Both boys got a five day suspension and transfer to a new school.
I raised enough of a fuss to get a disciplinary action in the principal's record, but he wound up taking an early retirement buyout offer and not much came of it.
I was so disgusted with the school district and the profession in general at that point that I never taught again. Lucked into a job running school outreach and public relations for a college with double the salary and half the workload, and haven't looked back since.
My school life was so different....army schools until my dad left the forces, then Catholic school, then Grammar School.
Army Schools: Army kids do all their fighting outside of school, because it's normal, and because the teachers are FUCKING PSYCHOPATHS.
Catholic School: We were too shit scared of the nuns to do anything. People go on about priests....they are pussies. Ask anyone thats been to a real Catholic School...fucking Nuns mate, so bad.
Grammar School: I got to learn astrophysics at A-Level and blow shit up. How could I not enjoy it?
owever, my mum is a special needs (behavioural) teacher in a very, very bad school in Poole. In fact, officially thew worst in the country for results \o/. And her stories....jesus christ. Need more gene pool chlorine.
The town pool was on the school grounds, which wasn't very smart.you had a pool?
In my defence it is/was a shitty outside pool.
If you were a superhero you'd be The Incredible Fucktard with your ever-ready sidekick Douchetard Boy. Together, you fight intelligence and common sense where you go.
Shit like this makes me glad I went to private school(s) after the age of 11
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I went to public school in a ghetto(read: affluent suburb of Seattle). Cant say It was all a waste of time.
Saving up for private school for my kids.
Looks like ~12k per year per child, which is a bit rough.
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