Higgs Boson finally discovered?

[ChaeDoc II]

Case in point, quantum entanglement, in many ways it makes no sense, but it's been shown to be true - using this weird but true phenomena has been allowing scientists on the Canary Islands to teleport small packets of energy from one location to another instantaneously, which in turn could be seen as laying the groundwork for FTL communication.

Eh? Afaik at no point in the experiment information was transmitted @ superluminal speeds and theory does not allow it.

Indeed. Been said many times in this thread. Information can't do that. No FTL communication for you.


Also, facebook comments

sigh

I mean, I can get the argument that CERN is so incredibly expensive that maybe it's not worth it when we have so many problems in the world, but I don't think the people saying stuff like this are thinking anything through that much.

They don't think it through because they're incapable.

[ChaeDoc II]

Funny tweets about the Higgs Boston Hardon.

http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/get...it-a-roun.html

I like this one:

"A Higgs Boson walks into a bar. "Want a drink?" asks the barman. The Higgs Boson doesn't reply. Because it's a Higgs Boson. Not a person."

It's all just mass hysteria.

[Calks]

[Mona]

[Spaztick]

[z0de]

whatever happened to the faster than light stuff?

[elmicker]

whatever happened to the faster than light stuff?

Loose connector breaking the timings. As expected.

[Mona]

We'll, she is strongly affected by Higg's field.

[walrus]

whatever happened to the faster than light stuff?

They fucked up the measurments.

[kyrieee]

whatever happened to the faster than light stuff?

It was a loose optical cable lool

[Constantinus]

I mean, I can get the argument that CERN is so incredibly expensive that maybe it's not worth it when we have so many problems in the world, but I don't think the people saying stuff like this are thinking anything through that much.

I would argue that CERN is actualy quite cheap.
After all, a yearly budget of 800 million Euros isn't too much if one considers the great scientifical successes of CERN and the fact
that this money is shoulded by 20 different nations.

[ChaeDoc II]

whatever happened to the faster than light stuff?

Loose connector breaking the timings. As expected.

whatever happened to the faster than light stuff?

They fucked up the measurments.

whatever happened to the faster than light stuff?

It was a loose optical cable lool

Looks like the same answer can be in three different places at slightly different times (this wasn't half as clever as i thought it was when i started compiling the post)

[Chakrai]

Haha, my facebook is full of a lot of happy particle physicists.

[elmicker]

I would argue that CERN is actualy quite cheap.
After all, a yearly budget of 800 million Euros isn't too much if one considers the great scientifical successes of CERN and the fact
that this money is shoulded by 20 different nations.

Particularly not when you consider that cash is all going into the pockets of european academics, engineers and infrastructure. CERN's a cornerstone of european technical academia. It's a bargain really when you consider the amount each nation spends on it per year. About £100m per year for the UK. Less than the cost of a single Eurofighter.

[Constantinus]

I would argue that CERN is actualy quite cheap.
After all, a yearly budget of 800 million Euros isn't too much if one considers the great scientifical successes of CERN and the fact
that this money is shoulded by 20 different nations.

Particularly not when you consider that cash is all going into the pockets of european academics, engineers and infrastructure. CERN's a cornerstone of european technical academia. It's a bargain really when you consider the amount each nation spends on it per year. About £100m per year for the UK. Less than the cost of a single Eurofighter.

Hehe, by try to explain that to the usual "fundamental science is expensive and useless" retards.
I am especialy fond of those who complain that this money could go to africa while they themselfs probably never spend a single buck for charity.

[nurgles]

[Helen]

Sorry to be debbie downer, but the more I learn about the higgs the less I feel it will have any real impact beyond fundamental science. Anyone has any reason to think otherwise?

Like Sahura Nikil said, we can't really say yet how the discoveries of fundamental laws of nature will eventually impact our daily lives. Although proven to be false, I really love the Faraday quote, where allegedly the british minister asked Faraday what was the use of his discovery of electromagnetism. "Why, Prime Minister, someday you can tax it".

Speaking as a lowly PhD student here, but I really am enthusiastic about all groundbreaking discoveries. It really improves our understanding of the world and I really loathe the current trend of coercing scientists into providing innovations (as in, products) to be consumed and used. That's not what science is about and not something a training in science readily helps you to do. Instead, I believe that one day in distant future a bright engineering student will look at the Standard Model (assuming it still stands) on a basic university physics course and go "hey, I could maybe use X to do Y with that and make Z" and suddenly, BOOM, you have a hoverboard.

Hey guys whats this electron do and how will it change my world?

[spasm]

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/4/313...ns-higgs-boson

[Steph]

what does this higgs particle help us to do/understand? TL;DR for a non physic nerd pls

I don't know if there is a tl;dr for a non physics nerd. Basically it's pure research that helps us understand the way our universe works and has no immediate practical application.

It bears mentioning, of course, that general relativity was also pure research with no immediate practical application in 1919, and today you can buy a GPS that uses curved space-time to help you navigate. To say nothing of nuclear power.

I guess the tl;dr is, "Human beings are curious and we like to find out things like this, and in fifty years or so somebody with imagination will think of a household device that can take advantage of what we're learning about the Higgs field."

EDIT: Wow, quote post on page one with post on page 6. I guess I should refresh my browser tabs more often.

[Jason Marshall]

WAIT. My little brain meats are pondering things they are not qualified to ponder on.

Altering a Higgs could do *mass* things, opening up the possibility of FTL under Einsteins theories that make my space boners go flacid?