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    Comments on German news sites reporting this are full of "BUT THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO HELP STARVING CHILDREN IN AFRICA", "fundamental science is useless" and Mayan apocalypse bullshit.
    I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Comments on German news sites reporting this are full of "BUT THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO HELP STARVING CHILDREN IN AFRICA", "fundamental science is useless" and Mayan apocalypse bullshit.
    I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
    Soon we will have the technology to create black holes. It will solve all our problems

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    Well to be frank they discovered a particle whose mass is in the region of a higgs boson and they discovered a new boson particle, but now they have to jump trough a couple of more hoops to prove its actually Higgs.


    

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    The bos particle seen by the hardon collider....sounds like a troll thats been going on for a few decennia.

    :awesome:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamse View Post
    Great work done by the people invovled and amazing how they've analyzed that staggering amount of data in such a short time so far
    The numbers involved are pure nerdporn. They even produce nice maps and graphs showing how much data each experiment is producing, and where in the world the LHC's datacentres are.

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    Next up: higgs boson tells a scientist to die in a fire and gets banned.
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

    "You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    the large hardon collider could still destroy the world.
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    large hardon collider


    Last edited by Pacefalm; April 9 2011 at 9:52 PM.

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    Also a good thing to note, we still need to figure out how gravity is transferred so you can make your search for gravitons now :P


    

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    what does this higgs particle help us to do/understand? TL;DR for a non physic nerd pls

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    How other particles and things get mass. They get it by interacting with the Higgs field of which the carrier is Higgs boson. So for example if you could find a way of lowering the amount of interaction with the field you could reduce an items mass.

    #EDIT: This is my understanding so i might be off, not that much of a physic nerd any more to dwell into the core mechanic of it.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    So for example if you could find a way of lowering the amount of interaction with the field you could reduce an items mass.
    Or they could just eat less and exercise more, lazy bastards...
    If money was a chicken, would the chicken be evil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Pirate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    So for example if you could find a way of lowering the amount of interaction with the field you could reduce an items mass.
    Or they could just eat less and exercise more, lazy bastards...
    Wait is this all just about making flying saucers? Why didn't they just say that....

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    With any luck, one-day, floating luggage bags.

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    What do you mean 'finally'? From when Higgs stated his hypothesis? Or from when CERN fired up the collider? Because, honestly, I wasn't expecting it to be found so soon. Had they found it, or something similar to what they found a year from now I would have thought that to be quite soonish.

    This is a massive technological achievement, especially when it comes to data analysis and signal processing techniques and methods. But no doubt the physicists will get the Nobels, with the computer scientists and mathematicians forgotten again.

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    Sean Carroll, a physicist at California Institute of Technology, said there was the slightest sign of something unusual in the results.

    "It's clear that the LHC has discovered a new particle. It's very much like the Standard Model Higgs boson – but there are just enough differences to be interesting. If the differences are real, they very possibly come from new particles interacting with the Higgs. The fun has just begun!"
    Would anyone care to elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    What do you mean 'finally'? From when Higgs stated his hypothesis? Or from when CERN fired up the collider? Because, honestly, I wasn't expecting it to be found so soon. Had they found it, or something similar to what they found a year from now I would have thought that to be quite soonish.

    This is a massive technological achievement, especially when it comes to data analysis and signal processing techniques and methods. But no doubt the physicists will get the Nobels, with the computer scientists and mathematicians forgotten again.
    It's the Nobel Prize for Physics, not the Nobel Prize for Computer Science.

    Although having said that they did give Obama the Nobel Peace Prize and we're still waiting for him to promote peace...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    Sean Carroll, a physicist at California Institute of Technology, said there was the slightest sign of something unusual in the results.

    "It's clear that the LHC has discovered a new particle. It's very much like the Standard Model Higgs boson – but there are just enough differences to be interesting. If the differences are real, they very possibly come from new particles interacting with the Higgs. The fun has just begun!"
    Would anyone care to elaborate?
    It's apparently been decaying into more photons than predicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    Sean Carroll, a physicist at California Institute of Technology, said there was the slightest sign of something unusual in the results.

    "It's clear that the LHC has discovered a new particle. It's very much like the Standard Model Higgs boson – but there are just enough differences to be interesting. If the differences are real, they very possibly come from new particles interacting with the Higgs. The fun has just begun!"
    Would anyone care to elaborate?
    It might be that the theory was mostly right and now they will fix it. God knows what they will come up with.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    How other particles and things get mass. They get it by interacting with the Higgs field of which the carrier is Higgs boson. So for example if you could find a way of lowering the amount of interaction with the field you could reduce an items mass.

    #EDIT: This is my understanding so i might be off, not that much of a physic nerd any more to dwell into the core mechanic of it.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't those particles already 'treacled' on the mass almost immediately after they're created. Isn't the Higgs boson used up in that process? It is not like those particles will keep gaining mass over their lifetime is it? The field and the higgs bosons are gone minute parts of a second after the creation of the particle. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    How other particles and things get mass. They get it by interacting with the Higgs field of which the carrier is Higgs boson. So for example if you could find a way of lowering the amount of interaction with the field you could reduce an items mass.

    #EDIT: This is my understanding so i might be off, not that much of a physic nerd any more to dwell into the core mechanic of it.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't those particles already 'treacled' on the mass almost immediately after they're created. Isn't the Higgs boson used up in that process? It is not like those particles will keep gaining mass over their lifetime is it? The field and the higgs bosons are gone minute parts of a second after the creation of the particle. Right?
    So if you reduce an items mass?

    What? Lighter aircraft, boats etc but equally as strong, if not stronger?

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