Last edited by Madner Kami; June 25 2012 at 09:41:36 PM.
I've seen lots of "feedback thread" thrown around. Can someone post a link please?
kidsdevs), and its bad for the playerbase because it spawns 10 page threads (on the plus side, EVE drama is part of EVE's charm). I never claimed this would impact subs, not sure where you are going there.
The same group of people notified (possibly? maybe? Bjork?) CCP of the exploit, and (supposedly) wrote how it could be exploited.
The same group of people then felt justified in using the exploit that they are claiming to have identified in testing.
If they were doing it to prove a point, then they should stop bitching.
If they were doing it to game the system, with an exploit that they identified... then they should stop bitching.
Sure, CCP didn't patch that hole. Whoopty Fucking Do...
If you're doing something you know is an exploit (because you already identified it as such, right?), then...
YOUR FUCKING EXPLOITING. Goons losing 5Trillion because they managed to cheat the system is the issue. CCP not fixing the problem isn't.
It isn't like they went - "oh, whoops, well, that turned out better than I expected, I'll keep that to myself and keep it to myself, just to get ahead..."
They went "HAY GUIS WE FOUND A 'SPLOIT, AND POSTED ABOUT IT, BUT CCP DIDN'T RESPOND TO xXxXIloveCatsinhatsXxXx's POST SO LETS ALL GET UP IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER AND RAPE THE FUCK OUT OF THE SYSTEM FOR LULZ LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOooooooh wait, WHY IS ALL MY FUKEN ISK GONE? RAAAAGE!!!!!!!!111!"...
See, that's a bit of a problem
Scratch that. That's the real problem...
Not that they discovered it in testing
Not that they didn't tell CCP.
Hell, it isn't even a problem that CCP didn't fix it. (for the purposes of this thread, you want to bitch about open ended systems and game theory, start a new thread and see how far it goes before +1)
It's that the same group who ID'd the fault used the fault in a manner that can only be considered "excessive", then want to wring their hands and whine when all their shit starts disappearing for it.
Take your fucking lumps and get on with it. Christ.
I'm wrong and so is my wife
I am always wrong.
Yes, CCP clearly were partially at fault, but it's their game, their rules and the goons clearly knew what they were doing was against the spirit of the rules (if not the precise letter), so for anyone to sit there and complain about CCP preventing them from ruining the LP market and FW Sov levels for the next three years, blaming CCP for the whole thing, as if the goons in question are some hard done by innocent bystanders being persecuted by antagonistic devs looking to save face is just fucking stupid.
My dog isn't supposed to leave the yard and terrorize the neighborhood. Thus, I keep the gate to the backyard closed. If I should ever leave it open by accident, and he gets out, I really can't blame the dog. I'd have to blame myself (while picking up their trashcans and getting their cats out of trees).
How about this angle: Given the sociopathic nature of Eve players, CCP was foolish to leave any opening a player could exploit.
I lost track. Has CCP taken any action other than seizing the assets of a single Goon, out of the 6 who perpetrated this?
So this thread has turned into a bunch of ppl whining about something CCP hasn't done, and a bunch of people white knighting CCP for something they haven't done. Gotcha.
Check out my +1.
Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.
"You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."
So fuck off with the 'not against EULA', cause they wrote it so broad that they can always crack down on fucktards if they so decide.
Originally Posted by Random hopeful w-space dweller
I love how people have just invented this whole bullshit "GOONS TOLD CCP ABOUT IT IN THE TESTING THREAD" story that is complete nonsense.
Noone even bugrepported it.
The sole post people are referring to is in a HUGE megathread where one guy gos "Inb4 you can artificially boost the value of a never-used mod and then farm LPs" or something equally trivial and flippant.
Its hardly suprising that CCP didn't immediately launch a fullscale internal inquiry into whether this was possible.
So, CCP seems to have some monitors in place to catch botters.
But if something that hasn't been sold in any kind of quantity for literally YEARS suddenly gets billions of sales, there are no signals?
I mean, a thing like that would probably have found the Pax Amarria thing, too.
Originally Posted by dstopia