Ban all the Goons. They are :smug: while they lol and own across New Eden, and that's fine. But when they get surprised by someone and a little rape happens they go run to their GM/Dev buddies and sanctions are dished out on the spot.
Ban all the Goons. They are :smug: while they lol and own across New Eden, and that's fine. But when they get surprised by someone and a little rape happens they go run to their GM/Dev buddies and sanctions are dished out on the spot.
if you can't the 2 minutes to figure out the huge number of reasons that's retarded youre dumber than I thoughtOriginally Posted by RoemySchneider
I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.
Market manipulation is an intended game mechanic.
Rewards for FW kills are working as intended (now that the drops don't get included).
so, the only thing that was dodgy was farming rewards for stuff that didn't get destroyed.
and a potential keyboard macro thing for automating the pressing of click / accept for around 14 hours. (pure speculation btw, nobody knows how they did it - perhaps they really did click / accept for 14 hours straight.)
Nothing ever burns down by itself
Wait a second, how dumb did you think he was? I thought the general long-held conclusion was that RoemySchneider was dumber than a bag of smashed arseholesif you can't the 2 minutes to figure out the huge number of reasons that's retarded youre dumber than I thought
This is bullshit. Each mechanic can "work as intended" individually and yet the overall effect of abusive behaviour be unintended and still be actionable as an exploit.
See: Convoy loot exploit of 2003, "Superstacking" exploit of 2003, Insurance fraud exploit of 2004, propulsion mod stacking exploit of 2005, 0.0 NPC Buy/Sell orders exploit of 2006, and so on
Aryth admitted to a G19 (or whatever) somewhere. But those have been cleared by CCP in numerous threads.and a potential keyboard macro thing for automating the pressing of click / accept for around 14 hours. (pure speculation btw, nobody knows how they did it - perhaps they really did click / accept for 14 hours straight.)
Not familiar with all of those- did they result in bans or just CCP realising they'd faffed up, resulting in the mechanics changing?
Note- I'm not saying that the ability to do what the goons just did should remain in the game, just that I can't see any real reason for punitive action.
Last edited by Glyken Touchon; June 22 2012 at 03:35:10 PM.
As hilarious as it would be I hope they don't ban anyone for it. Being able to game the system without fear of the banhammer is part of what makes EVE great. There was a loophole, goons found it, CCP patches it and everyone moves on. They made a lot of money and had a big impact on some markets, but they didn't make THAT much money and the economy is still fine so whatever.
it doesn't really need massive isk sinks; people are more likely to pvp when backed by big isk. the game needs to be engineering in such a way that PvPing is actually the best way to get that isk in the first place, rather than as it is now (and has been pretty much since alliances were created) where the best way to guarantee income is to prevent anyone from ever threatening it. We're in a paradoxical situation where people have the isk to PvP, but by PvPing they put their isk at risk. It's the latter bit that needs to be fixed. A few small changes like deleting POS entirely (JBs + moon miners hanging in free space, we don't need towers for sov any more anyway) and making moon minerals dynamic would go a long way to making 0.0 less static.
Last edited by elmicker; June 22 2012 at 04:17:32 PM.
Very much the latter. Eve's history is riddled with people exploiting things that were clearly against the spirit of the rules with CCP taking no action except to eventually (usually months to years after the fact) fix the exploit. I seem to recall you (and by you i mean russians) used to be able to run Angel 7/10 complexes at ten or so times the rate of any other complex for some reason, and I'm sure back when I started playing there was some exploit whereby an exhumer inside a carrier's ship bay wouldn't take up any space, allowing a single carrier to haul infinite amounts. Those two dominated south-east politics for years, with absolutely no repurcussions for those who abused them.
The members of the jewbal already have hundreds of billions, I believe aryth had investments prior to this which are measured in trillions.
That dude.
I find it amusing that had Goons just STFU about the whole thing and smugged about it between themselves it's likely they wouldn't have brought anywhere near as much attention to the situation where as they now face the possibility of Team Security coming down on them.
Pretty much this, and from what I've read it was actually an isk sink so all in all not a huge blow to the economy as a whole.
Everyone at a certain level makes it big off patches (or loses. hard), it's just one of those things.
Didn't AHARM get fined for using bugged mechanics to jew isk?
Previously he had confined his retardation to matters of.the combat system. Now.my definition has to expand.Wait a second, how dumb did you think he was? I thought the general long-held conclusion was that RoemySchneider was dumber than a bag of smashed arseholesif you can't the 2 minutes to figure out the huge number of reasons that's retarded youre dumber than I thought
I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.
Bugged !== badly implemented
It's an edge case either way. Let the fuckers keep it, they were minted anyway and it's a great story.
I heard he is a key figure in the manipulation of small blaster prices.Previously he had confined his retardation to matters of.the combat system. Now.my definition has to expand.Wait a second, how dumb did you think he was? I thought the general long-held conclusion was that RoemySchneider was dumber than a bag of smashed arseholesif you can't the 2 minutes to figure out the huge number of reasons that's retarded youre dumber than I thought
I love the Goons. They still have the energy/creativity I ran out of long ago.
Only if the action is initiated by a human, not when the repeating is a macro. E.g you're good if you use keyboard macro to trigger three keystrokes, but not to have it repeat ten thousand times.Aryth admitted to a G19 (or whatever) somewhere. But those have been cleared by CCP in numerous threads.and a potential keyboard macro thing for automating the pressing of click / accept for around 14 hours. (pure speculation btw, nobody knows how they did it - perhaps they really did click / accept for 14 hours straight.)
So they have all this wealth tied up in LP right?
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