[Devblog] Ship balancing summer update

[Varcaus]

(and sin could be rouge domi...)

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[AmaNutin]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

They do only have one strip miner slot. At this time.

[Madner Kami]

I just hope they don't forget to unify the mining bonus types on barges/xhumers. T2 production doesn't need another fuck-up because suddenly there's no ice-mining ship and no Mercoxit-mining ship around...

[LoKiPP]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

I actually like this, they needed something that could tank rats/spawns better. Pretty sure they were thinking about WH mining with this in mind. Now people don't have to waste a character for tanking, at least this one can still pull in a fair amount of ore.

[Verite Rendition]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

I actually like this, they needed something that could tank rats/spawns better. Pretty sure they were thinking about WH mining with this in mind. Now people don't have to waste a character for tanking, at least this one can still pull in a fair amount of ore.

I thought WH grav rats didn't respawn?

[cheeba]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

well im not sure how they will change fitting slots, but at best, it will have 33% output of hulk or 50% of a mack.

[Kalar Freno]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

well im not sure how they will change fitting slots, but at best, it will have 33% output of hulk or 50% of a mack.

Given that we have no idea what they will do with slots and bonuses, I don't know where you can possibly be getting these figures from.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they put skiffs close (within 10-20%) of hulks in terms of mining output. People still won't use them, and get ganked in hulks...

[Nax]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

They do only have one strip miner slot. At this time.

With one strip miner wouldn't they get out mined by about 30% by a Rokh? Rokh mining is /wrists due to RSI of course, but it'd be hilarious if they designed a new mining ship to have battleship level hp and it was worse than a current battleship configured for mining.

Also I don't really see where it gets used other than anti-suicide ganking in high sec and even then you'd have to be losing hulks really fast to make this worthwhile at which point you may as well give up on mining and do almost anything else.

[Glyken Touchon]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

They do only have one strip miner slot. At this time.

With one strip miner wouldn't they get out mined by about 30% by a Rokh? Rokh mining is /wrists due to RSI of course, but it'd be hilarious if they designed a new mining ship to have battleship level hp and it was worse than a current battleship configured for mining.

Depends on the size of the ore hold. They're talking jetcan size, so it would be a hell of a lot less hassle to use the skiff. Comparison is really Rokh+hauler vs 2 skiffs.

I like the approach they're taking, the devil's in the detail but the concept looks good.

[Nax]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

They do only have one strip miner slot. At this time.

With one strip miner wouldn't they get out mined by about 30% by a Rokh? Rokh mining is /wrists due to RSI of course, but it'd be hilarious if they designed a new mining ship to have battleship level hp and it was worse than a current battleship configured for mining.

Depends on the size of the ore hold. They're talking jetcan size, so it would be a hell of a lot less hassle to use the skiff. Comparison is really Rokh+hauler vs 2 skiffs.

I like the approach they're taking, the devil's in the detail but the concept looks good.

The Retriever/Mackinaw were supposed to have ore holds equivalent to jet cans, it sounds like the Procurer/Skiff might be in the 15-20k m^3 range but that's only guestimating from insufficient information. To be fair they specifically said that the other ships would have an output within an acceptable range of the hulk.

The Rokh comparison was just for amusement.

[Amantus]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

They do only have one strip miner slot. At this time.

Yeah but it might have a hench badboy bonus to its one strip miner.

[killfalcon]

I like the mining barge changes but giving the Skiff Battleship levels of EHP is a bit too much unless their mining output is shit.

I actually like this, they needed something that could tank rats/spawns better. Pretty sure werethinking about WH mining with this in mind. Now people don't have to waste a character for tanking, at least this one can still pull in a fair amount of ore.

I thought WH grav rats didn't respawn?

They certainly don't in C4 and below. On the other hand, battleship EHP gives time for a rescue falcon to arrive.

[Madner Kami]

What do T2 Mining Crystals cost nowadays? Would be funny if the Hulk outmines the other Exhumers by raw m³, but actually delivers less ISK/h then the rest, because it uses three crystals instead of one or two...

[RoemySchneider]

no more NC mining op bombings 8[
ohwait

[VARRAKK]

I'd rather they take their time and do it right.

And since they haven't balanced anything for years I'd imagine they're a bit out of practice.

But everyone knows, they won't do it right

[RoemySchneider]

I'd rather they take their time and do it right.

And since they haven't balanced anything for years I'd imagine they're a bit out of practice.

But everyone knows, they won't do it right

not with one dev doing it in his spare time, no

[Chakrai]

Sniper fucking bantams.

[Rudolf Miller]

no more NC mining op bombings 8[
ohwait

best memories

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=4000589

[Amantus]

What do T2 Mining Crystals cost nowadays? Would be funny if the Hulk outmines the other Exhumers by raw m³, but actually delivers less ISK/h then the rest, because it uses three crystals instead of one or two...

They don't cost that much. They'd have to be bare expensive.

[Loire]

Sniper fucking bantams.

That's right folks, this raggedy fucking hull is now a combat ship!