My point is, for a handful of players/characters, we were easily doing over 100mil/char/hour whether it was a quiet c3 with 20+anoms, or a couple of home system ones. And with either case the loot averaged out quite well.
I don't believe you can/could manage anywhere near that rate soloing C3s even before the neut change. Plus it was safer.
Im getting close to 80 per hour with just a tengu in anoms but yeah your points still valid.Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize
i know them i have no issue with them. i also have no qualm with pre nerf low sec incursions.FYP
Also high but poor contest rates helped increase isk/hour and no end of fun. Getting another fleet or 2 to also shoot some of your rats for you was lols.
Zeeker would hate to know about pve rates in w-space...
My god why won't they just seed more than 1 lowsec incursion.
No. :18months: was about CCP not wanting to touch EVE while they faffed about with Dust and WoD. It was about CCP ignoring players and doing nothing.
Here, CCP is making small iterative improvements (or changes in the pursuit of improvements) and working closely with players. It's pretty much exactly what we asked for instead of :18months:.
I think you need a bitterectomy.
Quakbot is now a better mafia player than 50% of the mafia players
Surely mining is now giving close to that with current mineral prices?Im getting close to 80 per hour with just a tengu in anoms but yeah your points still valid.
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I'm getting ~48M/hr assuming 4 cans per hour (110000m3).Surely mining is now giving close to that with current mineral prices?Im getting close to 80 per hour with just a tengu in anoms but yeah your points still valid.
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60 if you reach 5 (137500 m3).
Still a bit gash thenI'm getting ~48M/hr assuming 4 cans per hour (110000m3).Surely mining is now giving close to that with current mineral prices?Im getting close to 80 per hour with just a tengu in anoms but yeah your points still valid.
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60 if you reach 5 (137500 m3).
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Much much harder to move about so while yes it's not to bad for afk anoms are a bit better.Surely mining is now giving close to that with current mineral prices?Im getting close to 80 per hour with just a tengu in anoms but yeah your points still valid.
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Mining ABCs with Orca boosts, yesSurely mining is now giving close to that with current mineral prices?Im getting close to 80 per hour with just a tengu in anoms but yeah your points still valid.
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me and my mate were raoming in tempests, jumped into a system with rats on gate, he died i made it out in half hull .... LOL
Ouch.me and my mate were raoming in tempests, jumped into a system with rats on gate, he died i made it out in half hull .... LOL
Gate rats welpling fleets are the best.Ouch.me and my mate were raoming in tempests, jumped into a system with rats on gate, he died i made it out in half hull .... LOL
When incursions were new and we had one in venal that led to a really successful gate camp. It was done by forgetting one T2 large bubble on a gate in the incursion constellation. Them rats owned anyone traveling
how do you figure? supercaps quite literally broke the game f.e. my modules stopped functioning when a blob of them engaged their fighterbombers. or when enough supers/titans could defang and reinforce (for titans at least) the nastiest faction deathstar in about 2 mins and jump out, which broke the risk/reward of hitting valuable towers, encouraged TZ warfare gayness and pretty much made any pos mod outside the shield obsolete.
i dont see how some dude making risk-free money is anywhere near as broken as that shit was (still is actually).
He has supers that's how.how do you figure? supercaps quite literally broke the game f.e. my modules stopped functioning when a blob of them engaged their fighterbombers. or when enough supers/titans could defang and reinforce (for titans at least) the nastiest faction deathstar in about 2 mins and jump out, which broke the risk/reward of hitting valuable towers, encouraged TZ warfare gayness and pretty much made any pos mod outside the shield obsolete.
i dont see how some dude making risk-free money is anywhere near as broken as that shit was (still is actually).
Fuck that, they shit up roaming and general pvp something fierce.
Let's start a party of our own
So tweak the impact of the influence bar and the gate rat spawns. Work the problem. Also with 2 or more you might actually see some bears in them to fight, and another use for 10man gang with logis.
They won't add another lowsec incursion for a few reasons:
1/ the first never fills up to carrying capacity
2/ competition for sites breeds PvP, a 2nd incursion means it's easier to avoid such competiton (pretty much the whole reason for asking for one tbh)
3/ they are unpopular due to the spawn mechanics forcing highly unoptimal-for-PvP fleets and you don't fix this by adding more unpopular
4/ they interfere with roams and normal operations etc. There would be justified rage at doubling this whilst point 1/ is still true
Make isk with PICountries do not exist where I am from. The discovery of the Higgs boson led to limitless power, the elimination of poverty and Kit-Kats for everyone. It is a communist chocolate hellhole and I'm here to stop it ever happening.
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Its not a problem of one dude making risk-free money when that money is limited. Problem lies in the base of eve. Everything is balanced about reward/risk ratios and you have several things breaking that ratio. Incursions and supers were one of these things. Farming regularly 120-180 mil/h (180 is the max i saw in raw isk from pre nerf vanguards) in the safety of high sec is the same level of obscene as we were doing with supercaps vs poses/blobs of maels and drakes. Exodus of carebears leaving zero sec because it simply wasnt worth it for them staying there and ratting when they could go to high sec and get more isk for zero hassle doesn't seem broken to you? High sec being actually better for isk making then almost any other zero sec activity isnt broken for you?how do you figure? supercaps quite literally broke the game f.e. my modules stopped functioning when a blob of them engaged their fighterbombers. or when enough supers/titans could defang and reinforce (for titans at least) the nastiest faction deathstar in about 2 mins and jump out, which broke the risk/reward of hitting valuable towers, encouraged TZ warfare gayness and pretty much made any pos mod outside the shield obsolete.
i dont see how some dude making risk-free money is anywhere near as broken as that shit was (still is actually).
Sorry but i don't see it that way.
For zero sec to actually have a point in this game you need a healthy population in it and that has to entail certain benefits. And having high sec being pretty much better in EVERY regard for isk making is simply breaking eve. Just like supercap blobs were and 1k man blobs are still.
You could read what I wroteHe has supers that's how.how do you figure? supercaps quite literally broke the game f.e. my modules stopped functioning when a blob of them engaged their fighterbombers. or when enough supers/titans could defang and reinforce (for titans at least) the nastiest faction deathstar in about 2 mins and jump out, which broke the risk/reward of hitting valuable towers, encouraged TZ warfare gayness and pretty much made any pos mod outside the shield obsolete.
i dont see how some dude making risk-free money is anywhere near as broken as that shit was (still is actually).
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