Tier 10 mediums and TDs

[Kransthow]

Oh god leopard 1

[Dahak]

You know, I don't normally mind your anime pictures, but that...was...something.

[Stormscion]

Leo one is pretty much opposite from the E50 in gameplay its not gonna be protected as well as e50 for sure. Also it is around one third lighter should have better p/w ratio.
Probably something between t54/t62 and batchat some kind of hybrid between those two.

expecting something like this to be in game ( prototype )



It has 70mm armor hull so yea ... its gonna be paper. Same gun like e50 but i expect insane accuracy on the move with supreme manouverability and potentially better loading speed / DPM. 65km/h top speed with considerably better p/w ratio.

[Xiang Jiao]

You know, I don't normally mind your anime pictures, but that...was...something.

That's the spectaculate ejaculate.

[Torashuu]

It has 70mm armor hull so yea ... its gonna be paper. Same gun like e50 but i expect insane accuracy on the move with supreme manouverability and potentially better loading speed / DPM. 65km/h top speed with considerably better p/w ratio.

You mean a patton only with good accuracy while standing still as well and more speed?

[Tordin Varglund]

Leo one is pretty much opposite from the E50 in gameplay its not gonna be protected as well as e50 for sure. Also it is around one third lighter should have better p/w ratio.
Probably something between t54/t62 and batchat some kind of hybrid between those two.

expecting something like this to be in game ( prototype )





It has 70mm armor hull so yea ... its gonna be paper. Same gun like e50 but i expect insane accuracy on the move with supreme manouverability and potentially better loading speed / DPM. 65km/h top speed with considerably better p/w ratio.

Yeah its gonna have less armor, but imo, the E-50 doesnt lack mobility or accuracy enough for the leo to distinguish itself. Obviously we dont know the stats so it could be they manage it but its just my opinion.

[Dogbeast]

But it will probably have gun depression in comparison to the E-50 M.

For some this won't be a big deal, but for others, it can be a key decision on choosing it over the E-50 M (especially in pub battles).

Rheinmetall had tried to develop an indigenous 105mm to replace the 90mm gun used in the original designs. However, the excellent British 105mm L7 rifled gun (which was fitted to the Centurion and M60 tanks and retrofitted to the M48) was already available and the programme was dropped for sound cost and logistical reasons. Late in 1962, 1,500 105mm L7 guns were purchased for the new tank and small adjustments were necessary (such as sloping the gun breech to meet the requirement of a main gun depression angle of 9 degrees) with the modified gun being designated L7A3.

Source: http://www.historyofwar.org/articles..._leopard1.html

So I'm guessing it will be the equivalent of the M18 Hellcat, with better HE splash protection, at tier 10. And if that site is correct, then 9 degrees of gun depression is one of the best in the game. Highest I think is 12 degrees, and that belongs to the E8. (source: http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/M4A3E8_Sherman).

For comparison, here are the current 4 medium tanks in terms of gun depression:

Patton @ -10 degrees.
E-50 @ -6 degrees.
BatChat @ -6 degrees.
T-54 @ -5 degrees.

[ctrlchris]

But it will probably have gun depression in comparison to the E-50 M.

For some this won't be a big deal, but for others, it can be a key decision on choosing it over the E-50 M (especially in pub battles).

Rheinmetall had tried to develop an indigenous 105mm to replace the 90mm gun used in the original designs. However, the excellent British 105mm L7 rifled gun (which was fitted to the Centurion and M60 tanks and retrofitted to the M48) was already available and the programme was dropped for sound cost and logistical reasons. Late in 1962, 1,500 105mm L7 guns were purchased for the new tank and small adjustments were necessary (such as sloping the gun breech to meet the requirement of a main gun depression angle of 9 degrees) with the modified gun being designated L7A3.

Source: http://www.historyofwar.org/articles..._leopard1.html

So I'm guessing it will be the equivalent of the M18 Hellcat, with better HE splash protection, at tier 10. And if that site is correct, then 9 degrees of gun depression is one of the best in the game. Highest I think is 12 degrees, and that belongs to the E8. (source: http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/M4A3E8_Sherman).

For comparison, here are the current 4 medium tanks in terms of gun depression:

Patton @ -10 degrees.
E-50 @ -6 degrees.
BatChat @ -6 degrees.
T-54 @ -5 degrees.

patton more like depression


amirite

[Stormscion]

It has 70mm armor hull so yea ... its gonna be paper. Same gun like e50 but i expect insane accuracy on the move with supreme manouverability and potentially better loading speed / DPM. 65km/h top speed with considerably better p/w ratio.

You mean a patton only with good accuracy while standing still as well and more speed?

patton is kind of slow i dont know what will be top speed of patton 3
wouldnt be surprised that leopard will be more resilient to HE shells and heat shells so might be anty arty medium ... we will see

[ctrlchris]

It has 70mm armor hull so yea ... its gonna be paper. Same gun like e50 but i expect insane accuracy on the move with supreme manouverability and potentially better loading speed / DPM. 65km/h top speed with considerably better p/w ratio.

You mean a patton only with good accuracy while standing still as well and more speed?

patton is kind of slow i dont know what will be top speed of patton 3
wouldnt be surprised that leopard will be more resilient to HE shells and heat shells so might be anty arty medium ... we will see

Patton does not go fast,
But it accelerates like a motherfucker.

I like this

[Stormscion]

yea i was refering more to the top speed

[Th3GoodSon]

I'm just loving how loads of high end tanks will be likely using the L7 or earlier versions, meaning if I research it on one tech tree it ought to unlock across several nations

Also Centurion interests me more then Leo mk1

[Dogbeast]

I'm just loving how loads of high end tanks will be likely using the L7 or earlier versions, meaning if I research it on one tech tree it ought to unlock across several nations

Also Centurion interests me more then Leo mk1

I doubt that.

Don't the french tanks have a lot of german equipment in them? Most notably the engines? I know none of them were unlocked for me and I had to research them individually.

[Torashuu]

It has 70mm armor hull so yea ... its gonna be paper. Same gun like e50 but i expect insane accuracy on the move with supreme manouverability and potentially better loading speed / DPM. 65km/h top speed with considerably better p/w ratio.

You mean a patton only with good accuracy while standing still as well and more speed?

patton is kind of slow i dont know what will be top speed of patton 3
wouldnt be surprised that leopard will be more resilient to HE shells and heat shells so might be anty arty medium ... we will see

Patton does not go fast,
But it accelerates like a motherfucker.

I like this

What I meant was that what you're expecting Leo 1 to be is a current patton with more speed and better accuracy. Do you think that fits in the game? The idea doesn't come across as incredibly overpowerd?

[Th3GoodSon]

Leo 1 could end up being a fast, accurate tank but the think was made of tin foil and you're going to get your engine/ammo rack/crew shot to fuck by everything, and you're penetrable to most HE weapons so DERPDERP. Leo 1 is a bit 'late generation' for the game, so I expect we'll see prototypes with less zippy engines too. Otherwise where does it end? Chieftains, with god awful engines but pro guns and invulnerable turrets/front hull armour? T-72s?

@Dogbeast: Yeah, being over hopeful there. Wargaming requires we grind as much as possible so it's not going to happen!

[Torashuu]

Personaly I find no difference in armor between Batchat and Patton, so less armor on Leo wil hardly make it more vulnerable. When the armor gets that thin everything will pen anyway, esp with all the new guns.

[metacannibal]

Personaly I find no difference in armor between Batchat and Patton, so less armor on Leo wil hardly make it more vulnerable. When the armor gets that thin everything will pen anyway, esp with all the new guns.

I believe Leo will be a "German Patton", very good depression and Batchat-esque mobility with high pass-ability in bad terrain and a very accurate high pen gun. That would be great and make the tank utter shit in the wrong hands but a great tool in the right hands.

[Torashuu]

It would also instantly obsolete the patton.

Edit: I case you haven't noticed I'm a patton fan. Introduction of the Batchat made me sad enough with it being outpreformed at flanking burst damage. So far it has two things over other tier 9 meds. Gun depression and accuracy on the move.

[metacannibal]

It would also instantly obsolete the patton.

Edit: I case you haven't noticed I'm a patton fan. Introduction of the Batchat made me sad enough with it being outpreformed at flanking burst damage. So far it has two things over other tier 9 meds. Gun depression and accuracy on the move.

I believe that the T10 Med US and German switch roles, the US will get the more armored one and the German Leo Line the Glass-cannons.

[Dahak]

T62A pictures. Not much new here. Searchlight not an HP hitbox, dunno' about a module (guessing no, though).

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