Tier 10 mediums and TDs

[Dahak]

Images stolen from Tordin.





Original Announcement.
http://worldoftanks.com/news/1346-ti...tds-announced/

Tier 10 Mediums and TDs announced

Today 11:00 General News Comments
Currently Tier 9 is the peak of a vehicle’s class development for medium tanks and tank destroyers in World of Tanks. Quite often players ask game developers whether they are going to introduce Tier 10 for these two classes of vehicles. It is about time to give the exact and precise answer to that question - Tier 10 Meds and TDs will most definitely be introduced!
At the moment new vehicles undergo a balancing process; therefore, it’s too early to speculate about final specifications of these long-awaited armored vehicles. However, it’s known that all Tier 10 Meds and TDs will retain the specific tech tree features which are particular for the nation they belong to.
Interested to see what exactly the World of Tanks developers are preparing for their players?
The Tier 10 medium USSR vehicle will be the T-62A. In its top configuration it will be equipped with 100-mm gun D-54TC.

E-50 Ausf M will head up the German tank tech tree. In its top configuration it will have a 10,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. K gun on board.

Fans of the American combat vehicles will conquer the battlefields on the medium tank M48A1 (Patton III), equipped with 90 mm M41 and 105mm M68 guns.


The most drastic changes will affect the French tank tech tree. All light and medium tanks from AMX 12t (i.e. AMX 12t, AMX 13 75, AMX 13 90, Lorraine 40t, Bat Chatillon 25t) will be raised one Tier upwards. The light tank ELC AMX will be added as a new Tier 5 vehicle with 75 mm SA32, 75 mm Long 44 and 90 mm D914 mountable guns.

Bat Chatillon 25t, now raised to Tier 10, will be equipped in stock with 90 mm F3 gun and have 105 mm CN-105-57 as a top gun.

The details about French tanks substitution process and compensation procedure will be explained in more detail in a later update.
“Object 268” together with its 152 mm M64 gun will become a Tier 10 tank destroyer.

The German tank tech tree will be enlarged by the tank destroyer JagdPz E-100 with 17 cm PaK 45 gun on board.

The American nation will be reinforced by two new Tier 10 anti-tank vehicles. Players who have T95 will be able to openT110E3 tank destroyer. This vehicle will have a non-rotating turret and a 155 mm AT gun T7.

The branch of the US tech tree with turret-rotating tank destroyers which are currently headed by T30, will be amplified withT110E4. The particular feature of that TD will be a partially rotating turret (rotation angle – 180 degrees). The 155 mm AT Gun T7 will be its top weapon.

Cassette loader – It’s the key feature of the French vehicles. Tier 10 TD AMX 50 Foch will have it as well. The gun SA 58 AC will have 3 shells in the drum.

We would again like to remind you that the above mentioned information is not final. The vehicle specifications listed above can be subject to change prior to their official in-game release.

Stay tuned for further information about these upcoming tanks!

[Varcaus]

Auto loading 10 td -.- hide

[Dahak]

Just when I get all the tanks, Wargaming does this...guess I should turn off accelerate crew training on my mediums.

[untilted]

i'm really interested to see how tier 9 mediums get balanced .. will they lose some of their current specs? (e.g. HP, top gun vs. new MM values/tiering)?

or can we assume that these new tier 10 mediums will have slightly increased HP, better guns (in terms of penetration) than tier 9 now have and a higher MM value than tier 10 heavies? (as it is right now tier 9 med and tier 10 heavy share the same battle tiering)

fakedit: i guess it's time to start grinding on the M46 again

[Varcaus]

The most drastic changes will affect the French tank tech tree. All light and medium tanks from AMX 12t (i.e. AMX 12t, AMX 13 75, AMX 13 90, Lorraine 40t, Bat Chatillon 25t) will be raised one Tier upwards. The light tank ELC AMX will be added as a new Tier 5 vehicle with 75 mm SA32, 75 mm Long 44 and 90 mm D914 mountable guns.

wait wait WHAT?

[Th3GoodSon]

OMFG this is ridiculous. WTF is that Russian TD?! A snow plow? And the German one... It's the size of a god damned BARN

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[filingo]

amazing

[Losvar]

I am so hard right now!

[dzajic]

Whaaat, T-62 without the 115mm smoothbore? I know wargaming said ages ago no smoothbore guns ever, but that is what fucking makes it T-62, its a T-55 without that gun. Oh look, T-62A is a big T-55 with vstab. Same armor as in game T-54.

So is JagdPanzer-E is to be T10 German TD, what is going to be T9 on the second German TD tree? So the scene in 1st April WG news video that showed Soveit T10 TD in tree was true.

Lol at M48A1, only thing that A1 does is give it mini cupola as a weakspot.

Assuming they don't nerf T9 meds, we will have E50, E50 AusfM use rebranded L7 and M48 use real L7. If they don't give them some new ammo those 220 pen won't cut it at tier 10. FFS these thins will have higher MM than T10 heavy. I can't even figure out how will any of it work. Yes use gold ammo.

[untilted]

The most drastic changes will affect the French tank tech tree. All light and medium tanks from AMX 12t (i.e. AMX 12t, AMX 13 75, AMX 13 90, Lorraine 40t, Bat Chatillon 25t) will be raised one Tier upwards. The light tank ELC AMX will be added as a new Tier 5 vehicle with 75 mm SA32, 75 mm Long 44 and 90 mm D914 mountable guns.

wait wait WHAT?

it depends how they will change the MM values. as there are no light tanks beyond tier 5 it shouldn't be much of a problem to keep the current values & specs for the AMX 12t & AMX 13.

the lorraine might need a small buff to be comparable to the other tier 9 mediums (or the other tier 9 mediums get a slight nerf ... which would make sense in the light of tier 10 meds). the bat-chat .. well, as it seems *will* get atleast some sort of buff (unless tier 10 meds/TDs are a *huge* scam and they are just what tier 9 meds are now with an added mark-up)

now - the tricky question will be the ELC. looking at the turret it won't get a revolver system. which would make sense as it shares two guns with the AMX 12t. the question will be the 90mm .. chances are high that it will be an AP gun. so we're looking at a tier 5 light with a 120+mm penetration gun with some odd 240 damage per shot and a slow rof (maybe 4-5 RpM) .. which would make it comparable to a tier 5 medium.

as the current battle tiering of the AMX 12t is the same as of a tier 6 medium, i wouldn't be surprised if the ECL gets the battle tiering of a tier 5 medium with a tweaked MM weight.

would be atleast not a balancing nightmare like pushing the battle tiers up of all tanks in the french medium line and therefor having to tweak ALL the specs of the tanks in the line.

re tier 10 med guns:
as all the tier 10 med top guns are new ones i EXPECT them to be on par with the latest addition of tier 10 guns - something in the line of 260-300mm penetration with low to ok alpha and good RoF. they won't be that much better armored than tier 9 meds - they just will get better guns and more HP while retaining similar mobility.

tl;dr: lots of speculations *yay*

[Dahak]

The most drastic changes will affect the French tank tech tree. All light and medium tanks from AMX 12t (i.e. AMX 12t, AMX 13 75, AMX 13 90, Lorraine 40t, Bat Chatillon 25t) will be raised one Tier upwards. The light tank ELC AMX will be added as a new Tier 5 vehicle with 75 mm SA32, 75 mm Long 44 and 90 mm D914 mountable guns.

wait wait WHAT?

I missed that. That is not a 90mm presently in-game, sooo....

[Liare]

tbh, i expect the T-62 to get its 115mm smooth bore regardless.

cant have the not-yet-added Centurion rolfstomp the T-54 as it probably will. (past mk. 5 its basically designed specifically to :trollface: T-54/55's with enough armor to ignore the gun, and enough punch to make swiss cheese out of them)

russian tanks must be marginally better than all other tanks!

[Varcaus]

The most drastic changes will affect the French tank tech tree. All light and medium tanks from AMX 12t (i.e. AMX 12t, AMX 13 75, AMX 13 90, Lorraine 40t, Bat Chatillon 25t) will be raised one Tier upwards. The light tank ELC AMX will be added as a new Tier 5 vehicle with 75 mm SA32, 75 mm Long 44 and 90 mm D914 mountable guns.

wait wait WHAT?

I missed that. That is not a 90mm presently in-game, sooo....

So like what will all the frenchies get a buff or did my nano tanks just get raped by mm I hope not wg.

[Straight Hustlin]

calling it now, t-62 will get barrel launched ATGMs

[Mr Marram]

Wow, the french lights and mediums are barely competitive at their own tiers, after grinding 50k XP for the arties on the Amx 12t I have decided its utter shite. The AMX 13 75 gets nice tiering and has a punchy gun, same as the 13 90. Fucking ruskie bias.

As for the new T10s, they look pretty pointless, the T-62 will be silly OP and the E-50m will have a rapey gun, so im grinding out 200k XP in my T-54 and E-50 now, I think my E-50 has 70-80k XP sitting on it already love that tank.

Looks like the ELC AMX, T110E4, Bat Chatillon 25t, JagdPz E-100 and Object 268 are placed on the new maps we have yet to play, looks like some industrial russian town.

The JagdPz E-100 looks stupidly large and will probably have more problems than its brother the E-100.
The Object 268 "Snowplow" looks stupid but probably has still front armour and from what I can see a very small lower glacis, dat gun
If the T110E4 retains the hull speed of the T110E2 then its going to be a rape machine, it looks like that stupid cupola has been removed but a MG turret put at the back instead.

[dzajic]

Oh yeah, British T10 medium. Can I has Chieftain? Look it had rifled gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Ordnance_L11A5), so its all ok right? But all this also brings hope for FV-4004 as Britt T10 TD!

And most important. I don't want E50 Ausf M, I want my Leo 1. Yes I know it has as much armor as Lorraine, I don't give a flying fuck.

FFS just thinking. Once Brits come we will have 3 medium lines all using L7 at some pint.

Edit. Wait what. This is coming before Brits initial pack and before 2nd German TD line? WTF?! That also means I should start grinding right freaking now. I wonder how much XP will they be? 250k? 350k? 400k?

[untilted]

So like what will all the frenchies get a buff or did my nano tanks just get raped by mm I hope not wg.

read my post above - there's hope it won't be neither as there's still some tiny wiggly room available in the french battle tierings :P

but then again ... :crazy belarussians:

[Varcaus]

So like what will all the frenchies get a buff or did my nano tanks just get raped by mm I hope not wg.

read my post above - there's hope it won't be neither as there's still some tiny wiggly room available in the french battle tierings :P

but then again ... :crazy belarussians:

:looks at E series: all my tanks nerfed. WELP

[Liare]

i am expecting that E-50 Ausf M to be the same as the E-50, with 20mm more front plate and another 5 tons added tbh.

not expecting it to be competitive, the gun listed is the same as the top gun on the current E-50

[Dahak]

i am expecting that E-50 Ausf M to be the same as the E-50, with 20mm more front plate and another 5 tons added tbh.

not expecting it to be competitive, the gun listed is the same as the top gun on the current E-50

Negative, the E-50 has the 10.5cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B. The one listed in the article is the Ausf. K. Given that the Ausf. B is a completely made-up upgrade of the short 10.5 on the Tiger II with improved performance, I see no reason they can't do the same with the Ausf. K.