I SUCK WITH GIRLS AND NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME (especially my ex-wife!) 4

[Roam]

I should never post

Fixed that for you. (sorry brosef, but someone was going to and it might as well come from me. It might hurt less)

That's what she said.

Plusrep because I walked right into that one.

[Diicc Tater]

Planning a wedding fills me with dread and fear. Hopefully we can be engaged for a year or so first.

Gonna do it this august. We elope for a 4 day weekend. No guests, no big event, no priests. After all it's about the wife and I. If someone gets upset that we didn't throw a grand old feast, they can fuck off and get married the way they like it.

[keiiko netsova]

Maybe what they did in their free time was, but I'd wager that the Kaiser's or the Queen's IMPORTANT actions were more the subject of current events, politics, that sort of stuff. When DevilDude and I referenced "pop culture" we were (or atleast I was) more talking about the trite bullshit surrounding celebrities that some people seem to think is important. To answer your question though, I'd say knowledge of history helps you not repeat the mistakes of your ancestors, knowledge of science helps you function in a modern world dominated by technology (DevilDude is from the Silicon Valley after all :P). In my post I mentioned current events/politics, which I think are pretty important to being a functional voter in any democracy. Basically knowledge of things that have significant effects on our world is what I consider important (or "value" Keiiko puts it).


EDIT: Oh and if you know of ways that knowledge of the Kardashians, Nancy Grace, or Casey Anthony can demonstrate value, please tell me. My mom might just be the smartest person in the world.

Heh. The obsession with celebrity is nothing new, we just have more ways of scratching that particular itch nowadays.

The most obvious value is that of social lubrication. Gives you something easy to connect with others with. Obviously overobession is unhealthy, as with any other pastime. But given time spent on pastimes is generally of little socially macroscopic practical value (and your interest in science and history does have little absolute value in that way unless you're planning on being an influential politician or inventor). But it is interesting to you, and allows you to create connections with the people you meet and stimulate yourself intellectually (which not everyone wants to do).

I could easily say that those who never physically stimulate themselves via normal sports or extreme sports are not using their bodies to their full capacity and are useless wastes of carbon for not doing so - neglecting a core component of our existence is missing out on transcendent experiences. I'd be wrong, even though I do think it a little bit

I'm not sure but I think we're completely agreeing on this. I don't see any difference between what you said and what I was trying to say.

I was taking issue more with the root of the thinking that results in

Though I do admit that the hotter a woman is physically, the less likely she is to be up on current events (that don't involve the Kardashians) or tolerant of things that aren't chic. It's a fairly basic function of what they need to get by, when a rich dude will pay your ticket just because you look pretty there's no real incentive to develop a personality.

100% agreed. Being attractive doesn't condemn you to stupidity, but it's pretty well known that it hurts your incentive to be an interesting person in less superficial ways.

This is where I got the impression you're ascribing things to attractiveness that shouldn't be. I could be wrong

Indeed. Current femme of interest (different from infatuation girl, though she's still around) is as into the arts and sciences as I am, and is probably the hottest (ovbiously in my opinion) girl I've hooked up with in the past couple of years - tall skinny blue eyed brunettes do bad bad things to my mind.

You lucky bastard. Good luck m8.

Thanks. The good bad news is that there's also another around - in my normal state of indifference towards relationships I'd go after both, letting them know it's not serious and let fun times be had. Now there's an (admittedly remote) chance of one I feel as though I might have to focus on one. Eventually. Perhaps.

Not at all! I just think some have more weight/significance on the world. I don't judge my friends for not liking the same sports/music/hobbies as I do (although they have a bad habit of judging me/each other). Although I will admit to judging people above the voting age of 18 who are extremely ignorant on what they're voting for/on/about.

Heh. I do that as well, though it's only superficially more reasonable than voting based on your like/dislike of a certain representative (assuming representative rather than direct democracy).

[Sacul]

Maybe what they did in their free time was, but I'd wager that the Kaiser's or the Queen's IMPORTANT actions were more the subject of current events, politics, that sort of stuff. When DevilDude and I referenced "pop culture" we were (or atleast I was) more talking about the trite bullshit surrounding celebrities that some people seem to think is important. To answer your question though, I'd say knowledge of history helps you not repeat the mistakes of your ancestors, knowledge of science helps you function in a modern world dominated by technology (DevilDude is from the Silicon Valley after all :P). In my post I mentioned current events/politics, which I think are pretty important to being a functional voter in any democracy. Basically knowledge of things that have significant effects on our world is what I consider important (or "value" Keiiko puts it).


EDIT: Oh and if you know of ways that knowledge of the Kardashians, Nancy Grace, or Casey Anthony can demonstrate value, please tell me. My mom might just be the smartest person in the world.

Heh. The obsession with celebrity is nothing new, we just have more ways of scratching that particular itch nowadays.

The most obvious value is that of social lubrication. Gives you something easy to connect with others with. Obviously overobession is unhealthy, as with any other pastime. But given time spent on pastimes is generally of little socially macroscopic practical value (and your interest in science and history does have little absolute value in that way unless you're planning on being an influential politician or inventor). But it is interesting to you, and allows you to create connections with the people you meet and stimulate yourself intellectually (which not everyone wants to do).

I could easily say that those who never physically stimulate themselves via normal sports or extreme sports are not using their bodies to their full capacity and are useless wastes of carbon for not doing so - neglecting a core component of our existence is missing out on transcendent experiences. I'd be wrong, even though I do think it a little bit

I'm not sure but I think we're completely agreeing on this. I don't see any difference between what you said and what I was trying to say.

I was taking issue more with the root of the thinking that results in

Though I do admit that the hotter a woman is physically, the less likely she is to be up on current events (that don't involve the Kardashians) or tolerant of things that aren't chic. It's a fairly basic function of what they need to get by, when a rich dude will pay your ticket just because you look pretty there's no real incentive to develop a personality.

100% agreed. Being attractive doesn't condemn you to stupidity, but it's pretty well known that it hurts your incentive to be an interesting person in less superficial ways.

This is where I got the impression you're ascribing things to attractiveness that shouldn't be. I could be wrong

Indeed. Current femme of interest (different from infatuation girl, though she's still around) is as into the arts and sciences as I am, and is probably the hottest (ovbiously in my opinion) girl I've hooked up with in the past couple of years - tall skinny blue eyed brunettes do bad bad things to my mind.

You lucky bastard. Good luck m8.

Thanks. The good bad news is that there's also another around - in my normal state of indifference towards relationships I'd go after both, letting them know it's not serious and let fun times be had. Now there's an (admittedly remote) chance of one I feel as though I might have to focus on one. Eventually. Perhaps.

It's a value judgement like any other, and like almost everyone on this planet he thinks his choice of subjects of relevance is the only really valid choice.

Not at all! I just think some have more weight/significance on the world. I don't judge my friends for not liking the same sports/music/hobbies as I do (although they have a bad habit of judging me/each other). Although I will admit to judging people above the voting age of 18 who are extremely ignorant on what they're voting for/on/about.

Heh. I do that as well, though it's only superficially more reasonable than voting based on your like/dislike of a certain representative (assuming representative rather than direct democracy).[/QUOTE]



nice poast talking to yourself meight

[lt]

Sacul, it's a matter of bad quoting.

[keiiko netsova]

nice poast talking to yourself meight

Timestamps and quote tags m8

[Sacul]

nice poast talking to yourself meight

Timestamps and quote tags m8

right0

in emo news.......yeah im digging myself deeper in this hole.
Its a good thing quacktr0x deleted those 5 hours, lets just say its gotten worse since then

[The Monkeysphere]

so let's recap:

- sacul is left babysitting the kid of the redhead he is using as some sort of rebound from the love of a lifetime

somehow it's gotten worse.

- sacul got the redhead pregnant?
- sacul got the love of his life, who he broke up with, pregnant?
- sacul raped the redhead's child?
- sacul is having sex with another woman on the side?
- sacul has done all of the above?

[definatelynotKKassandra]

I'm guessing it's just 'Redhead says (or has made it plain) she's in love with Sacul, Sacul was just in it for the shagging. Sacul is trying to figure out how to run away without being a dick.'

Extra points if Sacul is now the only male role model in the kid's life.

[Sacul]

I'm guessing it's just 'Redhead says (or has made it plain) she's in love with Sacul, Sacul was just in it for the shagging. Sacul is trying to figure out how to run away without being a dick.'

Extra points if Sacul is now the only male role model in the kid's life.

Yeah p. much this and yes the kid is clinging to me like glue in all pos and neg ways (the dad has been out of the picture before she was born). I dunno tbh on the one hand this domestic life is p. chill and relaxing but on the other i know its gonna end up terribru.

so let's recap:

- sacul is left babysitting the kid of the redhead he is using as some sort of rebound from the love of a lifetime

somehow it's gotten worse.

- sacul got the redhead pregnant?
- sacul got the love of his life, who he broke up with, pregnant?
- sacul raped the redhead's child?
- sacul is having sex with another woman on the side?
- sacul has done all of the above?

hahah you dont seem to hold me in high regard....... the ex (the former co-worker) wasnt the love of my life as you say and i never stated that either. Indeed i have shagged somebody else last week. For the rest your list is wrong meight
I am however spending wayyyyyy to much time at her place and will be babysitting again monday.

Still facepalming but w/e

In more emo news i was told thursday my pcych who i have been seeing since 15 months is being laid off due to budget cuts (last one in first one out thing) so come october i will get a new shrink and i really am not happy about that at all. more than not happy im gutted seeing the work we put into our relation and the great quality she has given me

[Varcaus]

Why not just like visit her at her house and pay her the same you would? the pysch that is

[lt]

Why not just like visit her at her house and pay her the same you would? the pysch that is

This.

:TpTlk:

[The Monkeysphere]

We all know that would end up with sacul shagging his shrink. While possibly also shagging his new shrink at the side!


In any case, sacul, don't feel too bad, it really is a pretty difficult situation. Not that you're not responsible for it 100% :V

[Varcaus]

We all know that would end up with sacul shagging his shrink.

v0v not seeing a problem.

[Sacul]

We all know that would end up with sacul shagging his shrink. While possibly also shagging his new shrink at the side!

I fully admitt i would fuck the living shit out of my current shrink if it werent for the fact that i am able to keep a professional and personal relationship seperated (if i choose so). In this case we spend so many hours trying to figure out and grasp my condition i really dont feel like starting from half-way again with somebody else.
The complicated factor is that we also have mutual friends, i found out on facebook looking at a female friends page and suddenly seeing my shrinks name in her friends list. Its the reason i skipped the friends b'day bash 2 months ago. If she is no longer my shrink and we meet....dohohohoho

I nor she knows what she will do come october but i am however fully ready to follow her to another practice. Maybe it will come to that maybe not.

I feel a hypo coming hmmmmm

[Paradox]

I'm guessing it's just 'Redhead says (or has made it plain) she's in love with Sacul, Sacul was just in it for the shagging. Sacul is trying to figure out how to run away without being a dick.'

Extra points if Sacul is now the only male role model in the kid's life.

Yeah p. much this and yes the kid is clinging to me like glue in all pos and neg ways (the dad has been out of the picture before she was born). I dunno tbh on the one hand this domestic life is p. chill and relaxing but on the other i know its gonna end up terribru.

so let's recap:

- sacul is left babysitting the kid of the redhead he is using as some sort of rebound from the love of a lifetime

somehow it's gotten worse.

- sacul got the redhead pregnant?
- sacul got the love of his life, who he broke up with, pregnant?
- sacul raped the redhead's child?
- sacul is having sex with another woman on the side?
- sacul has done all of the above?

hahah you dont seem to hold me in high regard....... the ex (the former co-worker) wasnt the love of my life as you say and i never stated that either. Indeed i have shagged somebody else last week. For the rest your list is wrong meight
I am however spending wayyyyyy to much time at her place and will be babysitting again monday.

Still facepalming but w/e

In more emo news i was told thursday my pcych who i have been seeing since 15 months is being laid off due to budget cuts (last one in first one out thing) so come october i will get a new shrink and i really am not happy about that at all. more than not happy im gutted seeing the work we put into our relation and the great quality she has given me

Well that's a pickle isn't it?

The more the kid gets involved the harder it's going to be unless you're really prepared to be a father figure. If I were you I'd make my choice now or risk damaging the kid, this is an important stage of his life and it's only responsible to be thinking of him. On the other tentacle he does need a father figure, does the redhead have anyone lined up for a long-term relationship?

[lt]

I'm guessing it's just 'Redhead says (or has made it plain) she's in love with Sacul, Sacul was just in it for the shagging. Sacul is trying to figure out how to run away without being a dick.'

Extra points if Sacul is now the only male role model in the kid's life.

Yeah p. much this and yes the kid is clinging to me like glue in all pos and neg ways (the dad has been out of the picture before she was born). I dunno tbh on the one hand this domestic life is p. chill and relaxing but on the other i know its gonna end up terribru.

so let's recap:

- sacul is left babysitting the kid of the redhead he is using as some sort of rebound from the love of a lifetime

somehow it's gotten worse.

- sacul got the redhead pregnant?
- sacul got the love of his life, who he broke up with, pregnant?
- sacul raped the redhead's child?
- sacul is having sex with another woman on the side?
- sacul has done all of the above?

hahah you dont seem to hold me in high regard....... the ex (the former co-worker) wasnt the love of my life as you say and i never stated that either. Indeed i have shagged somebody else last week. For the rest your list is wrong meight
I am however spending wayyyyyy to much time at her place and will be babysitting again monday.

Still facepalming but w/e

In more emo news i was told thursday my pcych who i have been seeing since 15 months is being laid off due to budget cuts (last one in first one out thing) so come october i will get a new shrink and i really am not happy about that at all. more than not happy im gutted seeing the work we put into our relation and the great quality she has given me

Well that's a pickle isn't it?

The more the kid gets involved the harder it's going to be unless you're really prepared to be a father figure. If I were you I'd make my choice now or risk damaging the kid, this is an important stage of his life and it's only responsible to be thinking of him. On the other tentacle he does need a father figure, does the redhead have anyone lined up for a long-term relationship?

Yes, Sacul...

:TpTlk:

[Sacul]

Well that's a pickle isn't it?

The more the kid gets involved the harder it's going to be unless you're really prepared to be a father figure. If I were you I'd make my choice now or risk damaging the kid, this is an important stage of his life and it's only responsible to be thinking of him. On the other tentacle he does need a father figure, does the redhead have anyone lined up for a long-term relationship?

Yeah that is indeed the dilemma i am having. Its a 2 y/o girl and the father is out of the picture. She, the mother, hasnt had a single relationship since the birth. This comes from the shitty relationship she had with the father. So the only male role models the kid has is her grandfather and a few uncles.
Most likely its the reason the little is clinging to me so much. Dont get me wrong i like kids and wouldnt mind one or a few of my own but i also know being bi-polair there is a biiiig chance of me fucking up fatherhood. In any case i am great with the kid like i am with all little ones, except babies i only like kids when they can talk back and do their funny shit.

Here we are, i have peace of mind and i have a dilemma.

I know i put myself in these situations and i dont mind at all but now a 2 y/o is involved :lesigh:

[Lallante]

Lall does she even know about you gaming/internet geek side?

You most likely post mostly from work but i can imagine her havinhg a bit of a schock wwhen you get married and or live together.

Then again the redhead told me yesterday she played wow like an addict before her daughter.....i said nothing about my eve past...

She knows I play games ("its cute") but not that I play games which require voice coms or oog organisation.

[Lallante]

ITT people try to build lasting relationships on lies.

Seriously, if you have a hobby, find somebody who isn't a raging sperglord about it.

Easier said than done mate, especially when it's eve.

+1'ing this. Besides, 99% of the time, you can tell how receptive someone is to internet spaceship type stuff as soon as you mention it just by reading body language. It's rare enough for me to meet an attractive girl that's interested in current events, not to mention tolerates internet spaceships or a pixelated world made of blocks.

And yet believe it or not you'll be happier alone than trying to make something work with someone who actively dislikes stuff that gets you going.

Chances are it's not just eve, its that she has a poor outlook of the basic elements of somethign you like, and that will extend to clubs you join, sports, books, thing one does for fun when drunk, etc.

Erm. No.

Gaming is a small part of my life. A part that only very tangentially connects to the other things I find interesting. Her interest or disinterest or ambivalence to it has almost no bearing on her suitability as my partner.