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    Gonna be :nolife: leveling this toon. Trying to see if I can uphold lvl 85 in 1 week, ~12 lvls/day.
    Would be cool to join you guys in raiding before MoP hits.

    E: Btw what nights are the raid nights? I can't join most friday/saturdays since I'll have to raid lead on my guild
    Also pacefalm don't burn out have some fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malaes View Post
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    Don't forget healing was all we could do end game vanilla unless you had the an quiraj mace
    and up until naxx it was better to wear a dress rather than plate
    I was still wearing "not plate" until Cataclysm introduced the silly passive skill

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    Quote Originally Posted by orcane View Post
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    Don't forget healing was all we could do end game vanilla unless you had the an quiraj mace
    and up until naxx it was better to wear a dress rather than plate
    I was still wearing "not plate" until Cataclysm introduced the silly passive skill
    I remember a few holy pallies wearing cloth boots (among other armour pieces with various types) in ICC because they were BIS due to Blizzards terrible itemization.

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    Between the terrible 4pc bonus, the terrible itemization on the set (2 crit/mp5 items, no mp5/haste) and on most level 277 drops, the weapon situation, the bad libram and the terrible trinkets, someone at Blizzard seemed to actively hold paladin healers back in that tier.

    And then they decided to fuck holy paladins over again in T11 with weapon drops (but then again that's the same people who came up with putting the only epic caster wand in as a trash drop, without heroic upgrade, in a raid with like 20 trash mobs total)
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    And still retribution outhealed everything on Valithria


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    Wednesdays are a pain for me because it's my fencing night (i'm a rogue irl) but literally every other night is cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacefalm View Post
    And still retribution outhealed everything on Valithria
    You had bad holy paladins, in this case (or bad other-floaters in general)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakrai View Post
    Wednesdays are a pain for me because it's my fencing night (i'm a rogue irl) but literally every other night is cool.

    Shitposted from my tapatalk
    sundays seem to work well.

    currently theory crafting boomkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by orcane View Post
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    And still retribution outhealed everything on Valithria
    You had bad holy paladins, in this case (or bad other-floaters in general)
    No, some retri healing ability scaled ridiculously from buffs. Happened with us too when we had heroic Valithria in farm. I thing it was something about retri getting spellpower from attack power, and being able to make really big heals with some spesific ability. Or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orcane View Post
    Between the terrible 4pc bonus, the terrible itemization on the set (2 crit/mp5 items, no mp5/haste) and on most level 277 drops, the weapon situation, the bad libram and the terrible trinkets, someone at Blizzard seemed to actively hold paladin healers back in that tier.

    And then they decided to fuck holy paladins over again in T11 with weapon drops (but then again that's the same people who came up with putting the only epic caster wand in as a trash drop, without heroic upgrade, in a raid with like 20 trash mobs total)
    And still holy paladins were best/compulsory healing class to have in both ICC and T11

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahtila View Post
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    And still retribution outhealed everything on Valithria
    You had bad holy paladins, in this case (or bad other-floaters in general)
    No, some retri healing ability scaled ridiculously from buffs. Happened with us too when we had heroic Valithria in farm. I thing it was something about retri getting spellpower from attack power, and being able to make really big heals with some spesific ability. Or something.
    word of glory scales from attack power, so likely the now infamous WoG/last word/ selfless healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbend9620 View Post
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    And still retribution outhealed everything on Valithria
    You had bad holy paladins, in this case (or bad other-floaters in general)
    No, some retri healing ability scaled ridiculously from buffs. Happened with us too when we had heroic Valithria in farm. I thing it was something about retri getting spellpower from attack power, and being able to make really big heals with some spesific ability. Or something.
    word of glory scales from attack power, so likely the now infamous WoG/last word/ selfless healer.
    It had to do with a talent that Ret palas had back in WotLK which gave their heals a HoT based on the heal they did. The reason it was so OP was because it double dipped from the Valithria green portal buffs (which gave a ridiculous amount of +to healing)
    So it worked kind of like this (made up numbers):
    Normal Heal spell: 10k heal. Normal HoT: 3k over x seconds
    Heal with 100% buff: 20k heal. HoT with 100% buff 12k over x seconds

    Considering the amount of +healing you could get on the fight, the HoT was amazing (over 100k ticks were not uncommon), and their Judgement talent gave them infinity mana for the entire fight.

    E: after checking numbers, it was actually a HoT of 60% of the initial heal over 12 seconds
    So 10k heal would become 6k HoT over 12,
    100% buff, 20k heal, 24k HoT.
    200% buff, 30k heal, 54k HoT, and so on

    Also Retribution could have 2 Avenging Wraths in the fight due to one of their talents, compared to Holy 1.
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    Holy had the same double dipping mechanics via beacon, sacred shield and HL splash, another two (with 2pc T10) throughput buffs instead of just AW, holy light healbombs and equally infinite mana. Obviously not a lot of people specifically geared for Valithria, but I never saw a holy paladin with a basic throughput setup being outhealed on that fight, ever. Not by other healers, not by ret paladins.

    If you let the ret hoover up most of the red debuff orbs, however...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cullnean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chakrai View Post
    Wednesdays are a pain for me because it's my fencing night (i'm a rogue irl) but literally every other night is cool.

    Shitposted from my tapatalk
    sundays seem to work well.

    currently theory crafting boomkin
    Anyone not able to do a Sunday?
    If you were a superhero you'd be The Incredible Fucktard with your ever-ready sidekick Douchetard Boy. Together, you fight intelligence and common sense where you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cullnean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chakrai View Post
    Wednesdays are a pain for me because it's my fencing night (i'm a rogue irl) but literally every other night is cool.

    Shitposted from my tapatalk
    sundays seem to work well.

    currently theory crafting boomkin
    Anyone not able to do a Sunday?
    Sunday isn't great for me, it's my MTG/RPG night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cullnean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chakrai View Post
    Wednesdays are a pain for me because it's my fencing night (i'm a rogue irl) but literally every other night is cool.

    Shitposted from my tapatalk
    sundays seem to work well.

    currently theory crafting boomkin
    Anyone not able to do a Sunday?
    I can do most sundays


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    Think we'll start with sundays then and see about sorting a weekday that suits most people, I won't be around this sunday though I'm off to Cornwall.
    If you were a superhero you'd be The Incredible Fucktard with your ever-ready sidekick Douchetard Boy. Together, you fight intelligence and common sense where you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    Think we'll start with sundays then and see about sorting a weekday that suits most people, I won't be around this sunday though I'm off to Cornwall.
    Sundays are good for me.

    BTW the weather down here in Cornwall is as shit as it is everywhere else in the UK atm so I hope you have a lot of indoor activities planned if you're here for a weekend break. My surfer friends inform me that the surf is currently pretty good though so you're in luck if that's your thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koll View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    Think we'll start with sundays then and see about sorting a weekday that suits most people, I won't be around this sunday though I'm off to Cornwall.
    Sundays are good for me.

    BTW the weather down here in Cornwall is as shit as it is everywhere else in the UK atm so I hope you have a lot of indoor activities planned if you're here for a weekend break. My surfer friends inform me that the surf is currently pretty good though so you're in luck if that's your thing.
    Going eden project so I'm packing waterproofs, gotta be north coast for some surf!

    Guild is nearly halfway to level 19 now so that's good going.
    If you were a superhero you'd be The Incredible Fucktard with your ever-ready sidekick Douchetard Boy. Together, you fight intelligence and common sense where you go.

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    Anyone on al'akir able to chuck me a scroll of ressurrection, haven't played wow in a good while wouldn't mind seeing what they've done with it since lolcrusade. Everyone else I know who used to play wow has had the good sense to quit long ago.

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