If you guys had a choice between any of the T3 Battlecruisers to multi-box with 4 which would you choose? I haven't used T3 BCs in a pvp setting so I'm not too familiar with them.
'm mostly trying to pick between Tornado and Naga. Tornado has the crazy alpha strike and would be good against people undocking and hit and runs but the Naga has better DPS because you can use faction ammo and keep really good range on your guns still and be 100% effective not shooting in falloff.
Nado go for the alphaOriginally Posted by Primeja
I concurNado go for the alpha
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Personally I'd go for brawler fleets, Naga or Talos.
Keep in mind however I'm not known for picking the sanest option, but the most fun/entertaining. And 4k DPS is sure as hell entertaining.
-O
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those Thukkers, that way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody.
So is 40k alphaPersonally I'd go for brawler fleets, Naga or Talos.
Keep in mind however I'm not known for picking the sanest option, but the most fun/entertaining. And 4k DPS is sure as hell entertaining.
-O
Too sane.
-O
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those Thukkers, that way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody.
Scout alt in legion.
Strong Exile.
Four basic T2 fit Dualrep Brutixes.
All ships carry two waves of EC-300s
Laugh all day long.
I consider myself to be a sovereign space holding entity, however the simple fact is that my sphere of influence rarely if ever extends beyond the optimal+falloff*2 of my ship's turrets.
That literally made me LOL really loud.
I see the consensus is toward the Arty Tornadoes for the 40k alpha and would've been my initial choice as well. I'll go with that in the future but shame since the Naga looks the best imo.
Ahhh... such a shame... my main is only 13 days from finishing to 425mm Railgun IIs. The other accounts aren't even close as they are newer.
PS I like your saber avatar.
Last edited by Primeja; June 23 2012 at 07:06:44 AM.
So...does anyone have any experience with isboxer?
I'm getting my new computer very soon(finally) and will be able to concurrently run every single one of my 10+ accounts on a hardware level at once(dropped more cash than originally planned). I can't imagine this being actually feasible without some srs multi boxing software, however.
Anyone have any suggestions? I've heard synergy, isboxer tossed around as good ones; does anyone have any experience with them, or ideas/suggestions?
i wouldn't go above 8 on is boxer but it allegedly works ok. some hardcore miners i know use it.
Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.
"You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."
Also if your unsure and want to try it in actual pvp, just test it on the testserver, see is stability is ok and if in general your strategie works.
Tbh I don't plan on doing more than 6-7 at a time. That's about all the accounts I have that are useful in a pvp situation.
Do you hve any suggestions other than isboxer, or is it generally isboxer or gtfo? (I've seen a few other, but they seem very WoW oriented, which tbh surprises me as eve is a ga,e that's extremely hard/impossible to play with just one char/account.)
@wolf - I'm generally not a fan of the test server. I sure as hell won't be trying to run 6-7 nano ships at once, and will ofc start off with simple, easy to box stuf (carriers, dreads, rr t3s, dominixes). I'm not worried about stability as my new comp will be better than a m8 of mines who has run 8+ accounts previously.
As for strategy-I'mjust gonna go with existing fleet comps once I get the hangof running that mangy acts at once. I figure it might ake some getting used to running different typesof ships ie 2 basilisk/3 scorp navy/1 Lachesis/1 boosting tengu for example, over just running rr carriers or rr rattlers(all same modules as opposed to different roles/modules).
I'm really looking forward to it, and ofc it opens up new ideas for pvp vids.....Lord's "One Man Army" Servant ftw =p
On my iPad ATM, so apologies if :autocorrect:
I've used a few programs to multi-box and I currently use ISBoxer. The other programs I've used are Synergy, AutoHotKey, and AutoIt but it's free and allows you to send keystrokes to other computers. I'll also mention that since Synergy just allows you to move your mouse with your full set up it can be used with ISBoxer or whatever programs you're using.
Just a bit of background-- I've multi-boxed in WoW a little with Holy Paladin pocket healer + Kiting Marks Hunter and I wrecked people HARD. I've multi-boxed two of the hardest classes to play in FFXI-- RDM and Ninja at the same time in parties and hit 75 with them and now I'm on EVE Online.
ISBoxer makes setting up your multi-box EXTREMELY easy. However the downside of course is that you have to purchase a subscription from them and keep up the subscription if you wish to keep using ISBoxer. If you want to go the "free" route then use Synergy + AutoHotKey + AutoIt.
First off Synergy just allows you to move your mouse to any computer windows and you can use your mouse and keyboard as if it was connected to them. For example I move my mouse cursor from computer A to computer B I can now click and type into computer B's windows.
AutoIt is used to send keystrokes and mouse clicks to other windows and I believe you can send them to other computers as well. Correct me if I'm wrong about sending to computers please I haven't used it in a long time.
AutoHotKey allows you to set up macros and also redefine keys. This is important because it allows you to configure all your keys. I can set the keypress "g" to execute F1+F2+F3 (high slots) for example. I can also remap "g" to actually send the keyboard key "h" instead as well.
A general idea of something you can do is like this: I hit the button "g" on my main computer -> AutoIt sends "g" to my 4 other computers or other game windows open -> AutoHotKey takes that "g" and transforms it into F1+F2+F3.
And finally a warning: The more you put in a 'macro'' the more 'automaton' it is. ESPECIALLY if you put a 'loop' on it then that is definitely automaton. Be careful when you're dealing with this because it's a grey area. I'm not sure what CCP's stance on macros and how long they can be but generally speaking the accepted form of multi-boxing that's legal is: one key press per one key press on each computer(I push g on main computer it sends out k on all computers once).
Oh yeah-- for the 10k Alpha Tornados I have to be at about <30km-- that's pretty close considering I'm multi-boxing a couple of them and might not be able to react to a quick tackle if I'm camping a low-sec gate. If I go out to 100km+ the alpha drops down~ which is still pretty nice but if I want to gate camp in low-sec and not get hit by guns then I'll want to be 150 km+ out which lowers the alpha a bit more to about 6500 w/ Lv V skills and 3 gyros + 2x TC + Tremor. I still have to worry about being probed down but that's not too bad as I can d-scan and warp around the gate with tactical bookmarks.
My question is why should I still pick the Tornado over the Naga in this area? I'm still leaning towards the Tornado cause 1400mm Artilleries look amazing, fire awesome, and of course 6,500 is still a hefty amount of alpha. I only box 5 accounts, 1 support, 4 combat so 6.5k x 4 = 26,000k EHP @ max skills (not even close on my new accounts). I can't really alpha too many ships so my targets are limited to what... frigates and cruisers? I guess I should stay out of that area unless I get more accounts to alpha stuff? Thoughts pl0x before I jump in and do this.
Last edited by Primeja; June 27 2012 at 08:22:00 AM.
I really apologise for intruding, but what do you want to hotdrop with 8 carriers? Dreads let's say I understand, gank the bejesus out of something (... what, really?).
If someone has at least 1/2 a brain active and you get bubbled* would be hilarious. Please do fraps
*And counter hotdropped. Can 8 dreads pop a hictor or a dictor? Remote sebos/tracking? Please do elaborate.
Last edited by Cosmin; June 27 2012 at 09:56:55 AM.
Guns make the news, science doesn't.
Six shooters ruined PvP.
Carriers rep/cap-up the titans...
With subcapital support, easily. Without subcapital support much harder and more expensive. In theory a Moros (best tracking/DPS) with 3x scripted TCs could drop some serious pain on a Devoter (smallest sigrad) at 10km if the target is quad-webbed (assuming all dreads are carrying a web and half of them are in range to web) With 5% tracking hardwire and strong Drop that lets each Moros land approximately 3k DPS at that range.
Assuming 8x TPs and no webs, damage doesn't pick up until about 20km and is only 370-ish at 20km. This leaves a gaping hole in damage output at 10-20km where a moros blob without support can't do shit. (Somewhat addressable with fed navy webs.). Surprisingly, 8x TPs + 4x webs lets you smack a Devoter around all the way down to around 3km ranges, at 2.5km a Moros will do 500 DPS in that scenario. Of course, given the initial 10km diameter of the jump sphere, odds are some dreads will have much better tracking and damage output.
It'd be risky as fuck, but I approve of insane uses of dreads like this (By people who aren't in my alliance.). As usual, demand footage, etc.
-O
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those Thukkers, that way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody.
I wouldn't be dropping in 0.0 (unless NCdawt insists on continuing to drop supers on me every time im solo, in which dropping ~15 dreads on anyone dumb enough to do that would be hilarious)With subcapital support, easily. Without subcapital support much harder and more expensive. In theory a Moros (best tracking/DPS) with 3x scripted TCs could drop some serious pain on a Devoter (smallest sigrad) at 10km if the target is quad-webbed (assuming all dreads are carrying a web and half of them are in range to web) With 5% tracking hardwire and strong Drop that lets each Moros land approximately 3k DPS at that range.
Assuming 8x TPs and no webs, damage doesn't pick up until about 20km and is only 370-ish at 20km. This leaves a gaping hole in damage output at 10-20km where a moros blob without support can't do shit. (Somewhat addressable with fed navy webs.). Surprisingly, 8x TPs + 4x webs lets you smack a Devoter around all the way down to around 3km ranges, at 2.5km a Moros will do 500 DPS in that scenario. Of course, given the initial 10km diameter of the jump sphere, odds are some dreads will have much better tracking and damage output.
It'd be risky as fuck, but I approve of insane uses of dreads like this (By people who aren't in my alliance.). As usual, demand footage, etc.
-O
Footage will be had ofc.
I wouldn't be dropping unsupported dreads except to specifically gank targets that are on structures.
EntroX and myself actually have a plan for a video involving carriers; more will be shown soon(tm). Gonna be hilarious =D
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Guns make the news, science doesn't.
Six shooters ruined PvP.
Got new computer, testing out multiboxing atm. Its a bit tricky, will need to do more work tomorrow. Am too tired and have work in the morning anyhoo.
Got ixboxer, seems to work nicely, will need a bit of tweaking and lots of setup to work fully, but am looking forward to this. Tested it with 5 accounts so far at once. Computer runs em all like a charm =D
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