Prediction Thread

[xanral]

Yeah, the timer just seems a bit short and allowing teams of 3 (as you can fill all 50 points with 3) for the prelims just seems like some people might try the turtle strategy. You can equip 3 ships with enough dps to kill something fragile that gets sloppy and win by 2 points.

:/ Intigo might be right about you. If you have 50 points and your enemy has 50 points and you score two and they score zero...yeah, you "win". What you don't do is advance out of the prelims because you're a fucking retard. It's not based on "wins", it's based on points over two matches.

Edit: Shouldn't post in the morning. I'm not a morning person.

They also lose. Depending upon who you're fighting eliminating another team early in can be useful. If you sweep your first match and then you're facing a team you have almost no chance of beating and will probably not even get a kill on then turtling could be a viable option. It will force the other team to press you so they don't get eliminated from your griefing setup. They could be poorly setup to actually press you and might lose a ship or two. You might still advance because of your earlier victory and they might not.

That's not even mentioning the collusion element that could be involved.

I don't see what's incorrect in that reasoning.

*Edit - Its certainly a dick move and gaming the system but for particular situations it could be more beneficial then trying to have an honest match. My original statement was in response to the ASB nerf which falls along a similar line which is why I didn't place in all the qualifiers because I thought it would be understood given the thread's direction.

[StevieTopSiders]

Yeah, the timer just seems a bit short and allowing teams of 3 (as you can fill all 50 points with 3) for the prelims just seems like some people might try the turtle strategy. You can equip 3 ships with enough dps to kill something fragile that gets sloppy and win by 2 points.

:/ Intigo might be right about you. If you have 50 points and your enemy has 50 points and you score two and they score zero...yeah, you "win". What you don't do is advance out of the prelims because you're a fucking retard. It's not based on "wins", it's based on points over two matches.

Edit: Shouldn't post in the morning. I'm not a morning person.

I heard you and Intigo are both faggots.

[Varcaus]

Yeah, the timer just seems a bit short and allowing teams of 3 (as you can fill all 50 points with 3) for the prelims just seems like some people might try the turtle strategy. You can equip 3 ships with enough dps to kill something fragile that gets sloppy and win by 2 points.

:/ Intigo might be right about you. If you have 50 points and your enemy has 50 points and you score two and they score zero...yeah, you "win". What you don't do is advance out of the prelims because you're a fucking retard. It's not based on "wins", it's based on points over two matches.

Edit: Shouldn't post in the morning. I'm not a morning person.

I heard you and Intigo are both faggots.

Nah brent is pretty chill

[Ruri]

m8, ASBs don't do cap transfers, they don't need cap.
And if it can't be killed, it can't be scored as points, right?

m8, ASBs can run off your local cap they just use a shit-ton of it, but if you have a 2XL cap circle jerk running you can keep that booster up all. night. long. without using cap charges to fuel it. Unless that changed in literally the last couple of days.

Yeah, the timer just seems a bit short and allowing teams of 3 (as you can fill all 50 points with 3) for the prelims just seems like some people might try the turtle strategy. You can equip 3 ships with enough dps to kill something fragile that gets sloppy and win by 2 points.

:/ Intigo might be right about you. If you have 50 points and your enemy has 50 points and you score two and they score zero...yeah, you "win". What you don't do is advance out of the prelims because you're a fucking retard. It's not based on "wins", it's based on points over two matches.

Edit: Shouldn't post in the morning. I'm not a morning person.

I heard you and Intigo are both faggots.

Brent is literally gay for everyone in Eve. If you ever meet him, hold on to your butt.

(Because he'll plunder it)

[Intigo]

StevieTopSiders is very angry about how bad his corp/alliance is :[

[StevieTopSiders]

StevieTopSiders is very angry about how bad his corp/alliance is :[

n1 n1 n1

Tell us more about how mean the space game developers were to you. I'd like to know how it feels, seeing as they were nice enough to my corp to spawn BPO's for us. B)

[Stoffl]

Faggots

tappin dat talk

[Daneel Trevize]

m8, ASBs don't do cap transfers, they don't need cap.
And if it can't be killed, it can't be scored as points, right?

m8, ASBs can run off your local cap they just use a shit-ton of it, but if you have a 2XL cap circle jerk running you can keep that booster up all. night. long. without using cap charges to fuel it. Unless that changed in literally the last couple of days.

But there's no need to do something that's less cap efficient and vulnerable to ECM (so so vulnerable on a Golem) when ASBs can't even be directly neuted, let alone cap-trans-jammed. That was the original point that lead to the rules change afaik.

[kyrieee]

m8, ASBs don't do cap transfers, they don't need cap.
And if it can't be killed, it can't be scored as points, right?

m8, ASBs can run off your local cap they just use a shit-ton of it, but if you have a 2XL cap circle jerk running you can keep that booster up all. night. long. without using cap charges to fuel it. Unless that changed in literally the last couple of days.

But there's no need to do something that's less cap efficient and vulnerable to ECM (so so vulnerable on a Golem) when ASBs can't even be directly neuted, let alone cap-trans-jammed. That was the original point that lead to the rules change afaik.

You can fit 2 and run them asynchronously or you can fit 2 and run them in parallel with cap x-fer for twice the tank. An xl ancillary reps more than a Pith X-Type XL booster so running two at once gives you hilarious levels of tank and a cap chain doesn't stop you from using charges btw. There are other better reasons to make them cap stable but you can figure those out yourself :P

[Daneel Trevize]

An xl ancillary reps more than a Pith X-Type XL booster

That I hadn't twigged. New T1 module better than top meta of the type that's specifically designed for max rep regardless of cap efficiency

Why do you hate armour, CCP?

[Lucas Quaan]

I take it you haven't seen what the reactive hardener will do?

[Daneel Trevize]

Be shit?

No seriously, it's shit. Do tell.

[Sponk]

Be shit?

It's actually pretty decent with links.

[Lucas Quaan]

Be shit?

It's actually pretty decent with links.

Also, I realise this is a tournament thread, but put them on any capital and you'll see why it's decidedly not shit.

[Daneel Trevize]

Be shit?

It's actually pretty decent with links.

Why?
AFAIK it still reacts to incoming damage before resists are considered. Links just give you more stacked resists and thus less of a difference between any imbalance to start with, for this to fill/work from. I guess they also buy you time for it to adjust but I don't think that's quite a decent reason. What am I missing?

Is it that after the high and levels links-enhanced resists, this can still push 1 or 2 eventually slightly higher than a static active hardener would have? If you ensure it's never neuted off & reset?

[Snake]

Fearless to get to the semis. 500mn.

I'll take this bet, and will raise you. Double or nothing, we don't make it out of the group stages.

We are really that terrible.

[Snake]

Also since I am in a betting mood, I will bet anyone 200m that we can't field a full team for at least one of the matches in the group stages(if we even get there) due to people not showing up/logging in.

[Larkonis Trassler]

[Ethomas]

Also since I am in a betting mood, I will bet anyone 200m that we can't field a full team for at least one of the matches in the group stages(if we even get there) due to people not showing up/logging in.

Tempting...

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Be shit?

It's actually pretty decent with links.

Why?
AFAIK it still reacts to incoming damage before resists are considered. Links just give you more stacked resists and thus less of a difference between any imbalance to start with, for this to fill/work from. I guess they also buy you time for it to adjust but I don't think that's quite a decent reason. What am I missing?

Is it that after the high and levels links-enhanced resists, this can still push 1 or 2 eventually slightly higher than a static active hardener would have? If you ensure it's never neuted off & reset?

Rumor is it's not stacking penalized.

So DCII, Reactive hardener, EANM combo would all operate at 100% efficiency

(Or alternatively dc+RAH+hardeners+legion bonus would only have s single stacking penalty, the armor resist bonus under the specific hardeners. This would also explain why it reacts to pre-resist incoming damage.