In a tribute to the 8th Hussars, General John O'Daniel, commanding the US 1st Corps, stated: "...In their Centurions, the 8th Hussars have evolved a new type of tank warfare. They taught us that anywhere a tank can go, is tank country: even the tops of mountains."
yea its probably going to be dog slow at 35-40 kmph, but i dont care, i want that Centurion
cant wait for the British tanks - they will be fun to play.
Firefly will more than likely be a gold tank - will be interesting to see which tier they put it in with that boomstick its got.
I wonder if they'll put in the Churchill AVRE? 290mm Petard anyone? derp derp
Some of those tanks don't appear to have any gun mantlet at all
So yes. The Firefly ought to have some pretty hard core accuracy and penetration/damage. It ought to be comparable to a decent Tier 8 gun but on a Tier 5 tank chassis, so maybe a Tier 6 premium?
TL;DR: IT'S NOT THE DIAMETER, STUPID, IT'S THE VELOCITY
If WG is going to continue their trend, then the Firefly will be a tier 6 medium tank with a gun that has ~225 pen, 300 damage, with a respectable 5-6 RoF.
Maybe higher, since with each patch the power creep keeps getting worse and worse.
TL;DR assumed 17pdr and 76mm M1A1/2 are same gun, am wrong.
Last edited by Torashuu; June 11 2012 at 08:20:12 AM.
Brits wanted a better AT gun on their Shermans, but the US wouldn't retool their factories to develop a better gun. They felt that the gun was a good compromise between infantry-support and AT duties. Besides, the US still ran with the Tank Destroyer doctine where they had normal tanks for infantry support and Tank Destroyers (ie Slugger, Hellcat, etc) for AT duties. And if it came down to it, the US would rather produce more Shermans than having to retool factories and rearming their tanks with a whole new kind of ammo (supply chain was very long, and take transportation into consideration from US to Europe) and skill-set. This is also discounting that the Sherman's had good HE ammo which the 17pdr gun lacked (remember, it was originally a towed AT gun).
So the British wanted to place a gun that they knew was proven to defeat German armor into their Shermans but couldn't figure out how. IIRC, this problem persisted with people trying to even develop plans for a different turret to house the 17pdr gun, but were limited by the turret ring size and war materials for the development. That is until someone figured that instead of trying to modify the gun's recoil, they would just redesign it to the task at hand. Then they turned the gun on it's side for easier loading. And thus the Firefly was born.
But since it took effort and time to convert Shermans to the Firefly, the British continued to use the normal 75 and 76mm Shermans in addition to their Fireflys. The # of Shermans greatly outnumbered the Fireflys that it was issued as 1 Firefly per troop. And because Fireflys had a much longer and distinct barrel than other Shermans, they became known to German units and were given priority to be taken out over other tank types.
...so the British developed specific tactics to counter this, most often by having the Firefly setup in 'overwatch' like a sniper where it could both act as a spotter and provide accurate fire support, capable of defeating existing German armor and obtaining a good kill/loss ratio. Eventually the Americans got it and started to refuse delivery of sub-76mm tanks, focusing on producing the 90mm Pershing as a Firefly replacement by the end of the war, while the Brits took lessons to add to the Centurion, focusing on ensuring it was capable of long range, accurate and hard hitting fire
Finished the story for you
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.. and then the strong soviet wood crushed all of the puny western babby tanks for glory of dear leader stalin..
Russian fantasy tanks win again!
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The Comet was armed with the same 17 pounder as the Firefly, and in WoT world that's a tier 7 medium. So i expect it'll be balanced at that level, and the firefly will be a tier 6 premium for hilarity.
Personally i want a Churchill Crocodile, flame thrower tanks are the best :-)
Sounds about right Max. Comet of course has OMGLOLFAIL turret :/
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yeah, but the panther 3 cant because it was built in 2045