That's a lot of :tinfoil: m8.. u mad?Originally Posted by Raimo
That's a lot of :tinfoil: m8.. u mad?
I wouldn't have been able to even participate this year except for a few practices, but sure
I have no idea why they're deleting posts as that's just gonna make people more paranoid and serves no purpose.
But nothing they deleted is even a problem. Somebody accusing them of rigging the hat by (presumably) not putting the names of the people being disqualified into it. Sreegs says he doesn't know what they're talking about.
Why they would even want to delete that I have no idea. :ccp:
My guess is because it's useless shit-stirring.
Apparently the char asking about is was also forum banned, so I guess he was right? (I wouldn't know) :P
I mean forum ban him if you want, lock the thread but deleting posts that aren't NSFW is pointless. Like Raimo showed they still exist for people to see and it just draws more attention.
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Not that it really makes any difference but still.
Who knows? After all the shit CCP have pulled off over the past several years I don't have any faith in them anymore.
In the Eve-O threads now various Outbreak and Hydra guys are claiming they have contacted the gaming press, Sony etc.
This is so fucking hilarious. You ignored a rule specifically designed to prevent what you were doing with obvious consequences.
Outbreak/Hydra are SUPER FUCKING MAD. INTERNET SPACESHIPS ARE V. SERIOUS.
Hey guys? Next time don't break the fucking rules.
Yes, clearly they banned him because :conspiracy theory is correct: and not because he's being a useless shit-stirrer.Apparently the char asking about is was also forum banned, so I guess he was right? (I wouldn't know) :P
Right about what? All he was saying is that banning Hydra, PL and Outbreak amounts to "fixing" the draw.Apparently the char asking about is was also forum banned, so I guess he was right? (I wouldn't know) :P
I think its worth mentioning that if you two had a real match for the final and just colluded on the prizes, none of this would have happened.
I think that the punishment is being handed down for a crime that doesn't match the rule however, and is inconsistent with other applications of the rule.
Won't matter anyways because the resolution is going to be 'Hey we dragged this out long enough so that we didn't let you fucks bid on a spot' with maybe an 'oops maybe that was too harsh~ sorry we fucked you(but we really don't like you anyways)' at the end.
Serious space tears being shed over this. Calm it down guys, there's always AT XI.
CCP doctored the image of soundwave throwing a football - you can tell from the pixellation around his head and hands and from this old photo of him throwing a baseball.
Hopefully all of these guys have left eve by then. Most of them could really do with chillaxing and gaining some perspective.
Alternatively they can nurse their victim complex and spam the forums for the year.
Rule was ambiguous. This was done on purpose but CCP would have found an excuse to ban us one way or another. CCP entire attitude to events, including their responses (or lack of at times) both before us being banned and after are laughable.
Honestly I don't really care much, Krugs account was active for AT10 only, so now I got no reason to play anymore \o/ shame I only just put a 60d ETC on it :/
I don't particularly like being called an alt alliance.
No, it really wasn't. If it was me, I would have found someone else to train with/against than the same people I colluded with to fix the tournament last year.Rule was ambiguous.
CCP let themselves be made a fool of. If there was a "PR Fuckup" it was at CCP's end, in that they failed to correctly exploit the situation to advertise the core selling point of the game, which is that it's a sandbox in a way no other game ever has been. I personally think it's incorrect to blame players for living up to and exemplifying EVE's core ideal, and I think letting yourself be tricked by CCP into blaming them is somewhat naive.
When "Greed Was Good" and players rioted, why did the media (including non-game media) explode with coverage of it? Because EVE is a unique sandbox - one so unique that CCP's own customer base can wield it against them! Now that...that was a situation carrying a lot more significance and economic weight than some tournament final and some Nvidia sponsorship dollars (looking at you, Jade).
When Goonswarm pillaged Jita, CCP was the first and loudest to praise the sandbox! They couldn't praise it enough!
Yet when it turns "ugly"...when it has the potential to embarrass them, and they can find some way (unlike the Jita riots) to suppress it without alienating their customer base, they go right ahead and kill it? That's their first reaction?? It makes me really uneasy. It suggests to me that they only believe in the sandbox so long as it benefits their bottom line. It suggests a lack of integrity at a fundamental level, and even more sadly/worryingly, a loss of the visionary boldness that made this company what it is today.
To me, the sandbox is similar to the ideal of freedom of speech. It's an ugly thing sometimes, but worth protecting even in those ugly moments because it's such a cornerstone. Some seem to be okay with the notion of suspending it in the name of advertising dollars or viewer counts. They're welcome to their opinion, of course, but I can't agree myself. I think it's a betrayal of what EVE's really about...and I think undermining it over such things could represent a really raw deal for us all (players and devs alike) in the long-term because it enables and encourages CCP to be selective about when and where the sandbox applies, and over such small things like a fleeting tournament viewer count or a bag of dollar bills. I think the sandbox is worth a lot more.
Just my opinion, of course, but I think argument over whether or not last year's tournament final was "intended" or not is ultimately a less important discussion than the one about maintaining the integrity of EVE's most sacred concept - the sandbox.
But what do I know...
This is a good point. This rule was OBVIOUSLY targeted at you two. Going for anything that looks like a repeat performance was all kinds of a bad idea.No, it really wasn't. If it was me, I would have found someone else to train with/against than the same people I colluded with to fix the tournament last year.Rule was ambiguous.
Yes, lets train with some retards who don't have a fucking clue about this game. I'd probably care less if CCP followed this rule fairly across the entire AT entry, but they haven't. They just found some bullshit excuse to differentiate it and ignored all attempts we made to get clarification.
CCP AT devs attitude from the outset has been childish. They were intent in whatever manner to get us out of this tournament but didn't have the balls to state so from the offset. But well ::ccp:
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