Lets shit this thread up some more by discussing our feelings about last year final.
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Lets shit this thread up some more by discussing our feelings about last year final.
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Originally Posted by Calmdown
You are right, the sole reason for the introduction of a new rule is completely irrelevant to a discussion of how it is implemented.
I'm not really sure why Hydra seem to think that a genuine fight with both sides trying to win wouldn't be entertaining... particularly as opposed to the worst and most unrealistic staged battle imaginable.
Watching two sides who are obviously very competent giving their all to try and come out on top would be entertaining by definition no?
That's what it was intended to be, and in testing the vindi setup had trounced the minrush, but in the actual fight due to the fact everyone was tired/elated/drunk the minrush side was actually winning. Zara made the call to let Hydra win because he wanted garmon to have that honour and hence the clusterfuck that was the final.
Also lallante is a retard, nbs
The shit Hydra/0utbreak pulled off last tourney was impressive as fuck, and in it's own way the stupid final match illustrated one of the great truths of Eve, that the "meta" game is every bit as real and oft-times more important than the "real" game.
However, watching the same shit go down twice would be boring as fuck. I can see why CCP would say "sorry boys, we don't want a repeat," as it would likely depress interest in the tournament as a whole. Maybe only banning one team would have been better, and that's a shitty random card to draw if yours come up but there are also plenty of alliances who want to participate and are now staring at a ludicrously expensive (for some) auction bid because they were unlucky too. I dunno. I'm sad that good players got screwed out of the competition, but I'm glad there's not the potential for another hugely embarassing cockup this year.
Last year's final was about the most embarrassing cringeworthy bullshit in the history of the tournament. Everyone who tuned in had their time wasted watching a teary circle-jerk between metagaming primadonnas while the commentators had the unenviable task of somehow avoiding the words "well this is utter shit" on live stream. Nvida was a major advertising sponsor I seem to remember, imagine the looks between their rep and the CCP management as players took the epic piss out of their alliance format.
Frankly I was astonished that CCP didn't take action last year against the teams involved, but publishing the rules in advance including the b-team rule they gave strong early notice that no bullshit would be tolerated this year.
Garmon and crew appear to have convinced themselves that somehow last years final wasn't a disaster for all involved with the official PR.
CCP appear to have completely run out of patience for bullshit.
Roll on an alliance tournament decided by actual fighting in spaceships rather than gaming the tournament format.
Last edited by Jade Constantine; May 25 2012 at 12:58:44 PM.
Nothing ever burns down by itself
Oh shut up, your shitty alliance has never produced anything of worth. Beating BOB is hardly a feat, the moment other people had isk as well they were worthless both in and out of tourney.
Hydra and OB overplayed everyone else in last year's tourney - v0v about the final really. IMO it wasn't a giant "fuck you" to CCP (though there hasn't been a time where CCP doesn't deserve a giant "fuck you"), it was a giant "fuck you, you are shit" to every other alliance competing. Alliances that they had either beaten in the tourney or via tourney-related metagame (which is always a feat in itself which shittier competitors don't really realize) - like in the case of PL.
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The tears coming from Hydra/OB and their fanbois are awesome.
You're all retards of the highest level if you thought completely ignoring what you did last year and doing the -exact same thing- even after CCP set up a rule to prevent what you did last year wasn't going to result in exactly this treatment.
Either trolling or extremely stupid. I don't really care whichOh shut up, your shitty alliance has never produced anything of worth. Beating BOB is hardly a feat, the moment other people had isk as well they were worthless both in and out of tourney.
Hydra and OB overplayed everyone else in last year's tourney - v0v about the final really. IMO it wasn't a giant "fuck you" to CCP (though there hasn't been a time where CCP doesn't deserve a giant "fuck you"), it was a giant "fuck you, you are shit" to every other alliance competing. Alliances that they had either beaten in the tourney or via tourney-related metagame (which is always a feat in itself which shittier competitors don't really realize) - like in the case of PL.
:ccp:
Nothing ever burns down by itself
well personally i cant wait to see fights between made up alliances and inept carebear blobbers in the tourney
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Still better than last years final.
Still better than last years final.
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Truff.Still better than last years final.
The b-team rule states that the backup teams are removed and not the primary team. There is nothing stating testing and intel-sharing between two close alliances can't be done. If it was always the CCP AT team's intent to remove OB and HYDRA from the tournament why not do it before testing begins? Because they wanted to give them a chance to work alone in the tournament? They showed no intent of doing otherwise unless you count testing together in which case for fuck sake say it can't be done and don't just ignore them.
What? They said themselves their intent for the final went completely wrong and it wasn't what they wanted.
outbreak v darkside was the final and it WAS a good match.
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The short story on the final fight in AT IX is; The vindicator team always beat out the sleipner team. So the vindicator team decided to only shoot with half their guns and the sleipner team took off ewar and ECCM and fitted more tank instead. And no one told each other. CCP aren't the only ones bad at communicating. So bad. So bad.
Healthy doses of schadenfreud being enjoyed ITT.
man, on one hand, it's arbitrary and unfair the both hydra and outbreak have been barred from competiting. on the other hand, im not really surprised that CCP did it, just that they tried to justify it beyond "P.S. fuck you both"
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