if only we had the tactical prowess of RvB: https://forums.eveonline.com/default...50#post1357650
What a surprise - the usual group of exploiting/cheating fucks does their normal "If we petition obviously wrong behaviour then we can keep doing it" dance, gets fucked in the ass then cries hot tears.
You would have to be pretty fucking dumb to think that practicing together exactly the same as last year would be legitimate after a rule is introduced against collaborating, specifically because of your teams' behaviour last year.
Luckily Garmon and crew are p.f.d.
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How do you unintentionally deactivate your guns/tank and let the other team win?
How do you unintentionally fight what is supposed to be a competative match from the same TS?
How do you unintentionally collude as to what ships both sides will be bringing to a match in a tourney where predicting and countering the opponents set ups is 90% of victory?
The only part that was unintentional is that it was so fucking obvious to those watching that the match was thrown. You wanted a close match, perhaps, but there was always a pre-determined outcome. Nothing unintentional about that.
Lallante is owning this thread hard.
CCP's "Don't respond, respond shit, ban later. Oh and PL and RVB will get different treatment so they know we are still mad" is a dick move.
also: I like how the retards in this thread are assuming that if it was one corp, both parties known "all setups, all tactics and all theorycrafting". Because, god-forbid that thought, I can't really imagine any of this shining knights of e-honoure holding some secrets from each other or having something up their sleeves for the time they meet. That would be totally unevelike, rite?
e: OTOH after last year, when it was clear CPP was mad, I would be reluctant to even practice together. Just in case. But thats me, having no balls and shit.
Last edited by blaad; May 25 2012 at 10:29:50 AM.
Originally Posted by Calmdown
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I never really understood why you didn't just got a genuine final battle to see who could win. Since both alliances were gonna be recieving bajillions of ships, it should have just been a straight up fight to see who could best the other but I guess Garmon was too obsessed with coming first? Dunno why 0utbreak agreed to that TBH, they should have gone for the gold.
A close match that is entertaining to watch is what everyone wanted to see. That is what we intended to provide. That is what people were disappointed they didn't see.
No one cared about a fight being predetermined in any tournament until it came packaged with a match that wasn't entertaining. Entertaining matches is all that CCP claimed to want, that is what we tried and failed to deliver.
So yes, it was unintentional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHvsv...feature=relmfu
Just in case anyone's memory needs to be refreshed...
What you did last year was totally within the rules, even though it looked like utter PR shit. Because of that fact (it was within the rules) CCP gave you it a pass, and ate the shit sandwich.
This year, and if I recall, using that clusterfuck of a final as an example, CCP changed the rules to enhance the end-product. It was a set of rules that more or less was there to intentionally stamp out what happened the year before.
RvB is a different scenario, and even if CCP had allowed them to enter as both Red and Blue (instead of purple); the finale of those two teams would have been significantly less shitty than the product produced in AT9. Regardless, CCP came down with some common sense, and applied it.
Hydra/Outbreak getting excluded/banned from AT for colluding is a completely different thing. The same two teams that colluded the year prior (and your either not as informed as you should be, or simply a liar if you say "oh, it wasn't intentional; we didn't really intend to lose our ENTIRE FUCKING TEAM to the DPS of one vindicator after smashing the DPS with nary a single ship-loss...the entire DPS output of the other team")... are working together again. You know what? It looks like shit, smells like shit, and probably is shit. And if CCP allowed it, they'd have the same shit they came up with rules to prevent this year.
And to be honest, it sounds like CCP is tired of your shit.
I don't see it as a big loss. People watch the AT for the fights. If they wanted to watch it for the meta, they'd do the whole fucking thing on the forums instead.
You won't be missed this year.
Re: We wanted to make the match close: Zerathrustra, or whomever the Z guy was in the Sleipnir. Around 11 minutes into the fight. No visible tank mods active, no guns active. Claymore also looks like it has one gun active.
Grow up and take your lumps. CCP spends months setting this up. You made it look like shit. You spent months practicing. CCP treated you like shit. Sounds like you both get to walk away even.
Last edited by Nartek; May 25 2012 at 11:25:29 AM.
Intigo is a retard who has somehow managed to convince himself that the only thing they did wrong last year was make the fixed match "obvious".
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