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    Unfortunately decent monk gear costs far too much, especially those life on hit weapons. Also weapon alone wont work, needs also LOT of double resist gear... checked AH just, seems dispersion between low and high end gear prices is widening. All starter level inferno gear goes cheaper and cheaper while good gear costs more and more. So even harder to gear monk now. Dont really like how monk talents force to stack double resist gear with both resist all and resist one special, makes finding gear harder. One with Everything talent really should be redesigned.

    Btw boss fights are bad example of how easy/hard DH is, for example I personally facerolled Belial with monk, 500 dps LOF weapon (got nothing better with LOF ) + 5 defensive cd and in 3rd phase could just sit on place and rotate defensive cd's eating all boss melee hits, only running for aoe pools... maybe could have tanked them too, did not try. Biggest problem was hand getting tired pressing mouse button that long. In DH it took like 5 hours, switching specs and trying to find one which kills adds fast enough and does enough dps on boss to skip phase2 as fast as possible. Dh farms trash and kills champion backs better than melee but melee has much easier with bosses I thing.

    What comes to smokescreen, its not safe to be close to mobs and try to chain it... only 0.5 sec or so between cooldown and next activation, but its enough for close melee mobs to oneshot DH, they react instantly. Dont know if there is gear which allows to chain smokescreen for ever, maybe with hand crossbows and all other possible slots with +discipline it could come effectively close enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacefalm View Post
    I said without backup plan, not without prep. 5*14 = 70 cost = base disc + prep + base regen might have to wait a second or 2 for the 5th.
    So that gets you 5 seconds of invulnerability. All your disc is gone, as is your prep cd.

    For 5 seconds.

    Yep, way OP. Nerf the shit out of that. We'd hate to have DHs be able to RUN THE FUCK AWAY from an elite mob for 5 seconds.

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    DH 100% depend on SS to do anything on inferno. Its stupid class design, but there are too many ways to die in one hit and all the other defensive options suck. Shadow power is loltastically bad, caltrops are weak (I use them as a lower discipline skill alongside SS, but its nowhere near strong enough to be used alone). Acrobatics has hilarious things like spells teleporting to catch you, or getting hit during the animation, or getting hit after the animation, or the .5s windup of the animation that will kill you anyways (and it doesn't even break CC like smokescreen).

    So the DH has smokescreen, and it has DPS. No matter how hard they nerf SS, it will still be 100% mandatory unless they drastically buff the other defensive options.

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    They just need to change shadow power so that its base effect is 65% damage redux, rather than that being a rune. Then just make a shitty lifesteal rune that nobody will use until lifesteal is fixed.

    I run with ss + prep + vault at all times. Vault is a lifesaver if youre swamped, because you can vault over/through mobs. If you're surrounded badly then SS won't save you as you won't be able to run to safety in 1/1.5secs, so vault is huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerzi View Post
    They just need to change shadow power so that its base effect is 65% damage redux, rather than that being a rune. Then just make a shitty lifesteal rune that nobody will use until lifesteal is fixed.

    I run with ss + prep + vault at all times. Vault is a lifesaver if youre swamped, because you can vault over/through mobs. If you're surrounded badly then SS won't save you as you won't be able to run to safety in 1/1.5secs, so vault is huge.
    Wait, I don't use smokescreen on Inferno, and do just fine. People need to think outside the glasscannon concept

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    This is in hardcore, and I am not a glass cannon :P ss + prep + vault is just core survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arian snow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerzi View Post
    They just need to change shadow power so that its base effect is 65% damage redux, rather than that being a rune. Then just make a shitty lifesteal rune that nobody will use until lifesteal is fixed.

    I run with ss + prep + vault at all times. Vault is a lifesaver if youre swamped, because you can vault over/through mobs. If you're surrounded badly then SS won't save you as you won't be able to run to safety in 1/1.5secs, so vault is huge.

    Even then, what do you gain by not using smokescreen? The fact that no other skill breaks root or other CC makes it a practical shoe-in regardless of your tank, and single-handily makes portal hopping a viable tactic.
    Wait, I don't use smokescreen on Inferno, and do just fine. People need to think outside the glasscannon concept
    And your on what Act, with what gear, with what ping? Yes you might be able to avoid using SS if you really wanted to once you have 800-1000 resist all and a fair chunk of armor, but all you're doing is substituting gloom for smokescreen, and its an inferior effect. Either way, you need massive DPS to make that work (sense you aren't going to be 'tanking' more than a few hits at most either way), which means the only realistic path is glass-cannon into armored-cannon. Nobody can afford the dex/vit/resist gear until you're already farming content to begin with.
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    For the lolz, picture of my gear and stats, after spending all my money on a few upgrades today:

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    Protip: still getting raped in Act 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho Void View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacefalm View Post
    I said without backup plan, not without prep. 5*14 = 70 cost = base disc + prep + base regen might have to wait a second or 2 for the 5th.
    So that gets you 5 seconds of invulnerability. All your disc is gone, as is your prep cd.

    For 5 seconds.

    Yep, way OP. Nerf the shit out of that. We'd hate to have DHs be able to RUN THE FUCK AWAY from an elite mob for 5 seconds.
    To repeat myself: It isn't invulnerability. Skill animation is misleading (old SS was 2 sec base duration), but duration is 1.5sec with 2sec cd, you can get oneshotted in that 0.5 window if you stay in melee range with fast hitting mob (like my favorite naga demons in a2)
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    Has it ever occurred to any if the people whining are just bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arian snow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerzi View Post
    They just need to change shadow power so that its base effect is 65% damage redux, rather than that being a rune. Then just make a shitty lifesteal rune that nobody will use until lifesteal is fixed.

    I run with ss + prep + vault at all times. Vault is a lifesaver if youre swamped, because you can vault over/through mobs. If you're surrounded badly then SS won't save you as you won't be able to run to safety in 1/1.5secs, so vault is huge.
    Wait, I don't use smokescreen on Inferno, and do just fine. People need to think outside the glasscannon concept
    I think you need to define "just fine", because I'm far from a glass cannon and there's not a chance in hell I would switch out SS.

    I did think "outside the glasscannon" concept. I'm all about high resist, life on hit, life steal...and it works for most regular act 2 mobs.
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    I might be butthurt and I might be whining because I'm bad at the game, but show me one video of a WD doing pretty much anything on inferno at 5k hp? There aren't any. Glasscannon build for Wiz/DH exist because they lose too much dps to survive 2 hits instead of 1, but people forget that the same case is for witch doctor. You not only get oneshot by everything as well when starting out, but overall dps is lower, spirit walk and other defensive cds actually are on a cd, etc. This in turn means the gear needed to get anywhere is higher and hence the qq and rage.
    Like pointed out in the thread SS is good and at the same time the only defensive skill that makes DH viable. This is overall bad class design comparable to the 4.7k HP force armor wizard (which was nerfed) and stems from other bad design choices (untested inferno difficulty a2 +). I'm not saying nerf SS I'm saying DH have overall an easier time when starting out in inferno than some of the other classes (won't even mention monk/barb), and scale better with gear to the point of being able to overgear the entire game. I know a demon hunter lvl 54 with 25k dps, and survived everything with smoke screen/prep. To get 24k dps on wd and also be surivable on inferno cost me several mill at lvl 60.


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    ITT people trying to bring Wizard/DH down to WD/Barb/WD level instead of other way around o\

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    So D3 forums are abuzz now about gold duping going on from day 1 and people calling for rollbacks. What the fuck is this shit.jpg

    Someone tell me this is just bullshit and blizzard isn't that bad at making games....anyone.

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    2 Players, Player A sending item on AH, person B buy, Person A take money for item, person B, reroll system clock before transaction. You get your money back - rinse and repeat.
    You need two accounts/players.

    1. Player A puts the item on the AH
    2. Player B buys it
    3. Player A takes the money for the item
    4. Player B rerolls windows system clock to before the transaction
    5. win

    Use at your own risk.

    Is fixed afaik, some ppl made some billions gold, i missed it again.
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    lol

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    As if I needed further incentive to never log in again. Fucking lol. Blizzard making CCP look like a quality dev studio ahahaha

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    Well, if they dont roll back i willl leave too, its complete bullshit. Everyone who has not used this or some other exploit/dupe will never have enough gold to buy anthing useful anymore in the gold ah.

    Even the botters and poor chinese farmers are fucked, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miep View Post
    Well, if they dont roll back i willl leave too, its complete bullshit. Everyone who has not used this or some other exploit/dupe will never have enough gold to buy anthing useful anymore in the gold ah.

    Even the botters and poor chinese farmers are fucked, lol.
    ughhh no thank you, I really dont feel like lvling all those characters and doing all those butcher runs again

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    Should be easy to detect who duped if that's true. Maybe not so easy to track where the money went.

    Unless...

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