Diablo III is now waiting for 1,000,000 MF swap tears

[Ben Derindar]

Welp, finally killed the Skeleton King for the first time tonight, which is as far as the Starter Edition allows. Not because I suck at the game - I haven't died once yet - but I just can't get excited about it.

I do like some things: not having to click on every scrap of gold, DPS values on weapons making them easier to compare, right-clicking to equip etc. The music and sound effects are nice, and the voice acting isn't too bad even if some of the dialogue is.

But: I don't like the graphics, they're too cute and colourful, almost as bad as WoW. The camera zoom options are too limited, I want to be able to zoom out further, at least one more step. The outside areas in the opening act aren't as open as I'd like, some of it feels very linear.

And of course, this fucking login-to-a-server-to-play-single-player bullshit can eat a bag of dicks.

I might try Path Of Exile when that comes out, but in the meantime it's back to waiting for Guild Wars 2 for me.

[filingo]

stop shitting up the thread retards (noobcake)

[Space Panda]

lol hell mode. i am bad at this game!

[blaad]

Seriously fuck smith, AH is much better deal atm. After finishing normal (DH lvl34) I camped AH for a bit, for around 20k gold I upgraded most of my slots, my paperdoll DPS went from 900 to 1000 and my hp from 800 to 3200 (lol). Nightmare Act 1 feels much easier than Act 4 did. nbs

[Malaes]

their forum reminds me of the SWTOR forums during the initial days. i'm kind of convinced that both were coordinated forum "attacks" conducted by 4chan. "i got battlemaster in 15 minutes on ilum!" "my account got hacked and i was using an authenticator!!"

fucking faggots.

Blizzard replied to a guy who posted something like that pointing out he attached the authenticator AFTER he got hacked.

Also according to them none of the "hacked" accounts had authenticators attached.

[Skeptic]

Side stepping all the pointless trolling about it being online-required.....

It seriously shows how bad the game is designed once you hit Inferno. Take for example the Demon Hunter:

1) You have really no defensive skills/runes beyond smoke screen which is obviously OP. Why? I can go infinitely invisible/immune right now because I regain discipline on crits and have stacked crit. No joke, I can walk through Inferno like I'm playing God mode - they can't hit me, they don't even move while I shoot them all down. There is absolutely *no* other option and in Inferno, when things hit for 45k+, as a demon hunter you're basically either 1-shot when you step out or you do this build. So much for variation...
2) Because of this, I've been able to get stupid silly DPS and be fine with 13.5k hp in Inferno. I'm at around 21k dps so I can take down most elite packs in a few minutes by myself or even faster with a DH buddy.
3) Every other class I've heard nothing but bitching about Inferno. You either abuse a similar bug (35% max hit wizards or the previous infinite spirit monk) or you just don't survive. We've got a barbarian with insane +life on hit, 1400 vitality, and tons of resist/armor...yet he can only get about 4k dps and still dies all the time.

Don't get me started on how horrible the gear itemization (lvl 60 150dps vs lvl 48 900dps), auction house, leveling mechanics (I thought my rush was bad, I've seen people go 25 to 60 in a few hours...)....it's all a joke.

I like the game, I used to like Blizzard games, but damn is this bad for them. Sure most of the public won't see it for awhile because they're not at 60 but once ya get there it's just bad.

Cant understand this viewpoint at all. You have found a build that allows you easy farm of inferno, its not the only viable build it is the only viable build that you can make work. Problem with Inferno as I see it is that some of the elite combinations are just not doable without just portaling in and out and so encourage resetting the map until you get a favorable group, hardly a huge issue in my mind. Totally agree about the auction house and itemization points though, renders crafting or even bothering to farm in the first place pretty pointless when you can ez-mode farm gold and buy things anyway.

[Trindermon]

Cant understand this viewpoint at all. You have found a build that allows you easy farm of inferno, its not the only viable build it is the only viable build that you can make work. Problem with Inferno as I see it is that some of the elite combinations are just not doable without just portaling in and out and so encourage resetting the map until you get a favorable group, hardly a huge issue in my mind. Totally agree about the auction house and itemization points though, renders crafting or even bothering to farm in the first place pretty pointless when you can ez-mode farm gold and buy things anyway.

I think the main issue with the "You have found a build that allows you easy farm of inferno" is that basically what the guy above (sand) was saying is some classes can "cheese" through inferno using techniques like this and other classes are compleatly fucked. Its not even close to a well balanced playing field.

If your playing barb FORGET inferno beyond act 2 untill you've managed to buy act 2 gear on the AH - there is no cheese build. Inferno as supposed to be a challenging section of the game for everyone, not a "roll and DM./wiz" use the 1 cheese build that gets you through and use that to gear your other chars that you want to play.

Least thats how i read it, and its not what sand ment its definatly the case. High level skills and runes have not been tested and are fucking broken for at least 2 classes given them a op build in inferno mode, its not like it makes it challening cheesing your way throu content.

not to mention, your supposed to be able to use different builds and be viable in some way but these builds are litterally the only way to do the content - good luck with any variation.

[Roam]

Sigh. Balance not being perfect for a multi-million online game at the endgame 2 weeks after launch. Seriously?

I'm having a contrary experience to Sand as a Monk in inferno. I'm finding it fucking hilarious. I'm playing mostly with my Barb buddy, so that's probably the reason (since DH seems to be the main offender in the "way too much dps than intended, too little survivability" class), but we're having a great time. Using doorways to funnel monsters, running around screaming on TS at Jailer Desecrator Elecritifed Arcane Enchants (seriously, fuck those guys) etc.

The main issue with Inferno is that it was supposed to be a gear check, and due to a few classes having some odd builds that emerged it wasn't. DH, Monk and Wizard (lesser extent WD I believe) all have something that is clearly not working as intended, and Barb is just fucked because he's the only one who's functioning "as he should" in inferno. Stop getting panties twisted, D2 had shit balance for like a year after release. At least with D3 they are responding quickly (DH, Wizard and Monk having just been nerfed today)

[blaad]

Jesus its one week from release, they will balance it out. Also: DH, Monks and Wiz just got nerfed.

[Roam]

Read: nerfed hard. Monks lost the infinite spirit build AND lost their damage shield aura, which allowed them to tank in Inferno.

Just did Skeleton king with two buddies after nerfs, and it's a very good difficulty now, it took us 15-20 minutes of constant paying attention, kiting, evading and almost dying. Was easy mode before the nerfs.

[Trindermon]

Sigh. Balance not being perfect for a multi-million online game at the endgame 2 weeks after launch. Seriously?

I'm having a contrary experience to Sand as a Monk in inferno. I'm finding it fucking hilarious. I'm playing mostly with my Barb buddy, so that's probably the reason (since DH seems to be the main offender in the "way too much dps than intended, too little survivability" class), but we're having a great time. Using doorways to funnel monsters, running around screaming on TS at Jailer Desecrator Elecritifed Arcane Enchants (seriously, fuck those guys) etc.

The main issue with Inferno is that it was supposed to be a gear check, and due to a few classes having some odd builds that emerged it wasn't. DH, Monk and Wizard (lesser extent WD I believe) all have something that is clearly not working as intended, and Barb is just fucked because he's the only one who's functioning "as he should" in inferno. Stop getting panties twisted, D2 had shit balance for like a year after release. At least with D3 they are responding quickly (DH, Wizard and Monk having just been nerfed today)

Just for clarity mate, i wasnt all panties in a twist about it, just trying to clarify the current issues (something that probably didnt need doing in all honesty). I enjoy the game and just took to rolling alts whilst blizz at least qualise things a bit.

I certainly dont expect perfect balance in a diablo game - its the "blatantly broken cheese builds" i want gone fast.

[Trindermon]

PS: reading diablo fans i see that boon of protection got nerfed so that its so bad they pretty much made it useless till they fix it; i dont see any details of the DH and Wiz nerfs anyone got the low down to save me wasting more work time? :P

[blaad]

PS: reading diablo fans i see that boon of protection got nerfed so that its so bad they pretty much made it useless till they fix it; i dont see any details of the DH and Wiz nerfs anyone got the low down to save me wasting more work time? :P

DH: no more "lololopermastealth"
Wiz: no more "I can tank 2 hits no matter what vitality I have"

[Roam]

Trind: Wasn't aimed at you specifically, just the general noobcake etc people going Herpaderpaderp.

But yeah, Boon of protection is useless until they rework. There's a Blizz post saying it will be done soon, and that they advise not to use the rune till then. (Note: hotfix isn't out in EU yet, but might as well get used to it now).

I switched to using Fists of Lightning: Lightning flash (the 16% dodge one), but I'm finding without Boon of Protection I need to kite a lot, so might switch that to one of the Deadly Reach ones soon, and try that out.

In terms of Monks and which Mantra they should use now... Well, I tried the Dodge/armor one and have to say I find it pretty awful. Unless you have strong life leech, I don't recommend using it. Considering the way resists work in d3 (especially when compared to d2), I really think the combination One with Everything + Mantra of healing/Resist rune is the way to go. Gives you clutch healing when you need it as well as constant passive healing and raises your resistances significantly. Especially when you have high resistances. Currently running with 65% resistances to all elements, and that's keeping me alive in Inferno.

[Nicho Void]

I don't like the graphics, they're too cute and colourful, almost as bad as WoW. The camera zoom options are too limited, I want to be able to zoom out further, at least one more step. The outside areas in the opening act aren't as open as I'd like, some of it feels very linear.

Content: Now that I'm in inferno, every public game is an "Adria's Hut" run. I guess the fact that quest bosses have the worst loot tables isn't going to stop idiots from recreating the glory days of D2

[Cool09]

I don't like the graphics, they're too cute and colourful, almost as bad as WoW. The camera zoom options are too limited, I want to be able to zoom out further, at least one more step. The outside areas in the opening act aren't as open as I'd like, some of it feels very linear.

Its funny because he's waiting for guild wars 2 which is the most flamboyantly coloured and styled game ever.

[Stormscion]

D3 is WoW 2.

Now they will keep nerfing skills and constantly keep introducing better gear. Ofc when you get to top tier they will just make new better one and say well your previously best gear now sucks , farm again idiot!
So here we go again , running the wheel.

[Winged Nazgul]

Blizzard laughing all the way to the bank...again.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...nch-in-history

[Alistair]

3.5 Million x $60.00 = $210,000,000.00

Not bad. Unlike WoW though, D3 will not rovide monthly return. Only "Expansion" returns....of which I'd expect at least 2 for D3 before it's done.

[Winged Nazgul]

Don't forget they will get a cut of the real money auction house as well.