Diablo III is now waiting for 1,000,000 MF swap tears

[sand]

You're not alone Pacefalm, there is a lot of grumbling out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdwQ5...ature=g-user-u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o3qr...&feature=g-u-u

Basically most of the top players are leaving or pleading with Blizzard to fix the game.

[Mavolio]

Found a good Monk tactic i've been using the last few days to farm Rares quickly. Not sure how well it would work for other classes with similar burst abilities.

Step 1) Get 5 stacks of NV
Step 2) Get a pack of 3-4 mobs to 10%
Step 3) Apply exploding palm to a mob
Step 4) Kill the mob ensuring it kills all the other mobs in the pack
Step 5) Get 3-4 times the loot you are meant to get (you can get extra NV stacks this way as well)


Prob works with other abilities if you can kill them all at the same time but exploding palm works quite well as it does 30% of the mobs health to other mobs near by. Hard to get it to work on mobs that have some kind of invulnerability or are ranged as the exploding palm range is very small. Its quite nice to see 7-8 rares appear from a single pack tho it makes me sad when i inspect them and 1/2 are lvl 50-60

[sand]

Found a good Monk tactic i've been using the last few days to farm Rares quickly. Not sure how well it would work for other classes with similar burst abilities.

Step 1) Get 5 stacks of NV
Step 2) Get a pack of 3-4 mobs to 10%
Step 3) Apply exploding palm to a mob
Step 4) Kill the mob ensuring it kills all the other mobs in the pack
Step 5) Get 3-4 times the loot you are meant to get (you can get extra NV stacks this way as well)


Prob works with other abilities if you can kill them all at the same time but exploding palm works quite well as it does 30% of the mobs health to other mobs near by. Hard to get it to work on mobs that have some kind of invulnerability or are ranged as the exploding palm range is very small. Its quite nice to see 7-8 rares appear from a single pack tho it makes me sad when i inspect them and 1/2 are lvl 50-60

Just tried it, got 6 rares in a group of 4. Awesome

[Sudden]

1. Ladders
2. Pvp
3. Gold only on RMAH

Honestly only things that this game needs.

[Intigo]

dance puppets dance

[Redclaws]

Stopped playing the game after I got my monk into all ilvl 62 gear, I can't find anything better than what I have on the auction house unless I pay 75mil for a weapon...
Act 3 and 4 are bugged with bad loot so I'm not even going to bother playing them.

Diablo 3... Lets just say it was fun enough for the 45€ I paid. Maybe once they fix the rmah timeout I might even be able to get my money back.

[Rans]

I stand corrected, the RMAH did ruin the game for me.

Also to whoever posted the crit gear tip: thanks bro, too bad everything was on rmah

[omeg]

As a wizard I aimed for crit gear from the beginning as it was obvious that IAS will be nerfed (and it mostly artificially inflated the char sheet dps for wiz anyway). Now sitting at 38% with 191% crit dmg.

[Rans]

what's a decent barb inferno build? for shit gear with 1h+shield

[Cerzi]

Yeah, there needs to be a bigger way to take good items out of the softcore economy. Maybe something like making items more appealing to salvage based on how much theyve been used / changed hands, or just based on some kind of quality metric that considers the stats of the item and not just its level / rarity when salvaging.

In fact, yeah. Every x monsters killed with an item (across all players that use it) "enchants" it with some magical dust bla bla whatever, and when you salvage it you get an increasingly nice bonus depending on how many monsters that weapon has killed. x has to be a high, high number though. Should probably also be influenced by mob. Could drop mats that let you craft specific stats etc, basically tie in with a blacksmithing revamp.

Then when you find a new item, you're faced with a choice: do you AH the item, or is it ripe for a'salvaging?

[Sudden]

In a ladder system the economy would get cleaned out once or twice a year anyhow when it gets moved to non-ladder. Noone would care if non-ladder economy is flooded.

[sahtila]

Anyone know why items are not BOE? That would allow drop rates to be much better as good gear would not get recycled again and again through AH and item pool would not increase all time.

[sahtila]

My argument is that Lifesteal has a point (depending on build and gear) where it becomes much better and more reliable than LoH even against a single mob (though it clearly scales exponentially with mob numbers) but more importantly: that this point is much LOWER than people realize because most people (including in this thread sand and pacefalm) are using raw weapon dps for their calculations, which as I've explained in exhaustive detail is wrong.

Lets see:
Monk with 2k LOH (nothing really good, its possible to get LOT more), 2 attacks/sec. Is that straight around 4k hps even if including attack coefficients? And this is not counting how LOH procs from damage mirroring abilites because I thing it will be nerfed.
VS
Life steal monk with 6% lifesteal, which is 1.2% in Inferno. To get 4k hps he needs to do 333k dps. Can monk do that single target? How about against 2 targets?

Where do I go wrong?

[Itiken]

can anyone post me a decent Sword/Board build for a barb in inferno?
I've 40k HP,. 11000 dps and ~350 ish resists and the first 3 champ packs i saw raped me in the ear.

admittedly, one was "huge hulking dudes with palgue/descrator/wall/shielding" next Laping dudes with fire chain illusion extra health desecrator adn finally molten, plague, horde shielding.

Should i concentrate first on getting through the game on inferno, and not worry too much about resetting / clearing NV stacks ?

[blaad]

Anyone know why items are not BOE? That would allow drop rates to be much better as good gear would not get recycled again and again through AH and item pool would not increase all time.

Because BOE is a retarded mechanic and it is D3 not WoW.

[Roam]

My argument is that Lifesteal has a point (depending on build and gear) where it becomes much better and more reliable than LoH even against a single mob (though it clearly scales exponentially with mob numbers) but more importantly: that this point is much LOWER than people realize because most people (including in this thread sand and pacefalm) are using raw weapon dps for their calculations, which as I've explained in exhaustive detail is wrong.

Lets see:
Monk with 2k LOH (nothing really good, its possible to get LOT more), 2 attacks/sec. Is that straight around 4k hps even if including attack coefficients? And this is not counting how LOH procs from damage mirroring abilites because I thing it will be nerfed.
VS
Life steal monk with 6% lifesteal, which is 1.2% in Inferno. To get 4k hps he needs to do 333k dps. Can monk do that single target? How about against 2 targets?

Where do I go wrong?

Sigh. Dude, can you at least show me the respect of actually reading my posts, or any other posts in this thread? The "herpderp you'd need 100k+ weapon dps" argument has been made 4 times already, and exhaustively refuted in my post.

[sahtila]

Sigh. Dude, can you at least show me the respect of actually reading my posts, or any other posts in this thread? The "herpderp you'd need 100k+ weapon dps" argument has been made 4 times already, and exhaustively refuted in my post.

I have read your posts, unfortunately you fail to provide any real numbers and are instead posting opinions as facts. That simple math I showed seem to show that life steal monk's real single target dps needs to be around 300k to get same HPS as LOH monk, and if LOH monk has good gear, number goes up to 600k or more.

[sahtila]

Anyone know why items are not BOE? That would allow drop rates to be much better as good gear would not get recycled again and again through AH and item pool would not increase all time.

Because BOE is a retarded mechanic and it is D3 not WoW.

Why its retarded mechanic?

[Pacefalm]

Sigh. Dude, can you at least show me the respect of actually reading my posts, or any other posts in this thread? The "herpderp you'd need 100k+ weapon dps" argument has been made 4 times already, and exhaustively refuted in my post.

I have read your posts, unfortunately you fail to provide any real numbers and are instead posting opinions as facts. That simple math I showed seem to show that life steal monk's real single target dps needs to be around 300k to get same HPS as LOH monk, and if LOH monk has good gear, number goes up to 600k or more.

Because you dont get 100% of the life on hit from each attack

Anyone know why items are not BOE? That would allow drop rates to be much better as good gear would not get recycled again and again through AH and item pool would not increase all time.

Because BOE is a retarded mechanic and it is D3 not WoW.

Why its retarded mechanic?

Because the reason Diablo 2 was succesful for so long to begin with was that there was no soulbound. Imagine you pay 250€ for a great item and then a better one drops 2 days later. If there is soulbound then you're fucked and wasted 250€ with no chance of getting it back.

[Pattern]

Repair costs shitted up the game for me tbh. Page me if they plan on fixing that.