[DEVPOST] Inferno features on Sisi today

[Mortvvs]

Will faction items be going on the market with this one?

They already are.

[indeterminacy]

a safe bet to say that this *injectorless* mod, while fuelled, is less efficient than traditional means.

As it amounts to cap warfare immune active tanking...it had better be a lot less efficient.

[phlippo]

Will faction items be going on the market with this one?

no

[Alistair]

F3R0X hulls m8.
If all goes well, the only *shit* BC will be the Prophecy, WHICH HAD DAMN WELL BETTER BE ADDRESSED CCP

Remove Lasers, Add Missiles. Drake 2.0

I meant to ask you PRom, are you concerned at all that the Interceptor is being phased out as a meaningful ship option in the current climate of EVE? Seems it's speed advantage has been overcome by so many buffs to other things, making them far too fragile, and thier role has been taken away by other classes. Whats your thoughts on Inties these days?

[prometheus]

IMO Interceptors are waiting in the wings for the inevitable EAF boost.
They're the best suited for the job of countering them.

With that said, I still see fleet interceptors quite commonly.
Combat ones less so, but Maledictions/Stilettos/Ares are still widely used.

[Max Teranous]

The fuelled shield booster is a MASSIVE nos/neut nerf.

Not really. Active tanks using cap injectors are like rocking horse shit as it is. If anything it's a boost as shield injecting doesn't stop the neut's turning off your hardeners, whereas cap injecting allows you to turn em back on.

This issue with this mod is that most likely it'll be balanced compared to active tanks, and as such will be mostly worthless as soon as you take one look at the comparable slots passive tank. But we already know active vs passive needs a massive look at.

Max

[Itiken]

NOS/neuts need a nerf anyway - specially in small gang.

[prometheus]

You're the first person to say that NOS need nerfing

[olusegun obasanjo]

So, new rig/module thoughts:

• Fueled Shield booster (Small/Medium/Large Ancillary Shield Booster), using Cap Boosters as charges

No XL sized booster, so maybe this is more of a boost to Cruisers and below fitting oversized boosters to fill their shields. Need to see their stats and how they stack up vs extenders really. Sadly i'm thinking the extenders will still be the obvious choice.

this is a stealth nerf against people fitting heavy/med neuts and expecting to be invulnerable to frigates imo

in general it buffs active tanking frigates, because like others have said in the thread it reduces the lot requirements for an effective shield tank, and frigates are especially sarved for midlots with prop/tackle/tank

[Ampoliros]

Will faction items be going on the market with this one?

what max means to say is that they're already on the market on TQ. :P

[Rynnik]

The shakeup to balance from this is going to be huge for small gang warfare in my opinion. Like nano nerf huge.

To fit in around here though I am going to go all sandy vag and say that CPU rigs were NOT the buff to offgrid T3 booster fits we needed. Fucking nerf those things already.

[Matharos]

Will faction items be going on the market with this one?

what max means to say is that they're already on the market on TQ. :P

hmmm that tells you how much I login...

[Ampoliros]

Moar stuff regarding FW changes coming in this build to Sisi as well (link) :

Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals

2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it
- Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount)
- Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level
- All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%)
- NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system
- ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW

3. Militia store LP prices are affected by faction wide performance (discounts in increments of 10%)
- Note that Datacores have been split and moved in FW LP stores
- Pending implementation, LP gain increase for all ways in which LP can be gained in FW - FW Kills, FW Missions, Complexs etc

I do believe these are the most prominent consequences implemented/pending.

most of that was expected, i think the discounts are new though

[Jonathan Xavier]

this is a stealth nerf against people fitting heavy/med neuts and expecting to be invulnerable to frigates imo

in general it buffs active tanking frigates, because like others have said in the thread it reduces the lot requirements for an effective shield tank, and frigates are especially sarved for midlots with prop/tackle/tank

I think people running heavy/med neuts use them to shut down MWD/tackle to kill frigs not break the tank. If someone goes from booster/injector to fueled booster they won't be able to inject to pulse MWD, turn on tackle, etc. I think it's a buff to anti-support neut use, if anything.

[Tyrehl]

I ***** hate ships with medium/heavy neuts in their utility slots (totally not looking at the cane/vaga and the pest). Just started playing again, definitely some imteresting changes. They better balance this well though

[Alain Colcer]

Moar stuff regarding FW changes coming in this build to Sisi as well (link) :

Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals

2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it
- Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount)
- Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level
- All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%)
- NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system
- ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW

3. Militia store LP prices are affected by faction wide performance (discounts in increments of 10%)
- Note that Datacores have been split and moved in FW LP stores
- Pending implementation, LP gain increase for all ways in which LP can be gained in FW - FW Kills, FW Missions, Complexs etc

I do believe these are the most prominent consequences implemented/pending.

most of that was expected, i think the discounts are new though

gotta say that the benefits to stations apply to neutrals make it very interesting from a "market" perspective, bring in the "business partners" into the system and allow them to use the benefits of my faction controlling this location.

[Luna Lee]

I'm surprised at the CPU rigs as I'm sure I remember a dev post where they said they wouldn't do rigs as they liked there being a hard cap on one aspect of fitting. I like it though as it's going to open up quite a few fits now. Ishtar plus drone damage mod may well be 'awesome', depending on if it's mid or low slot.

[Rynnik]

depending on if it's mid or low slot.

or a high slot?

[Alain Colcer]

Moar stuff regarding FW changes coming in this build to Sisi as well (link) :

Without going into exhaustive detail:
1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy
- Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari
- You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped
- Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals

2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it
- Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount)
- Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level
- All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%)
- NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system
- ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW

3. Militia store LP prices are affected by faction wide performance (discounts in increments of 10%)
- Note that Datacores have been split and moved in FW LP stores
- Pending implementation, LP gain increase for all ways in which LP can be gained in FW - FW Kills, FW Missions, Complexs etc

I do believe these are the most prominent consequences implemented/pending.

most of that was expected, i think the discounts are new though

gotta say that the benefits to stations apply to neutrals make it very interesting from a "market" perspective, bring in the "business partners" into the system and allow them to use the benefits of my faction controlling this location.

[Shin_getter]

web drones is the new ecm~~