Death or Flight Preview

[Suleiman Shouaa]

Finally found a program that'll let me record Eve on my laptop whilst dual boxing without completely killing it, so been recording a few fights. Just want to see what people thought regarding quality, bearing in mind that YouTube resized it from 1440 x 900 (actual .mkv is ~64MB for 4 minutes). I'll try and upload the actual .mkv file to EveFiles over the next few days....

I'm taking a break from Eve for a while due to exams, but will be recording after that with the aim to produce 2 ~20 minute videos, one focusing on kiting and one focused on brawling so feedback will be useful before I get into it.

Ships Flown: AB Vengeance, Sleipnir (w/ Skirmish Links)

I use the orbit command in the first fight and already feel really ashamed

[Daneel Trevize]

Fight transition seems borked. Sound, overlay, etc.
YT '720' seems a bit blurry but ok.

Did the Thorax, Merlin or second Brutix do anything before warping back out? Were you suspecting they'd come back if you purposefully got tackled by the brutix so it wouldn't warp if the drones got a jam off?

Also, Willl Adama did use that track for a good fight.

[Suleiman Shouaa]

Fight transition seems borked. Sound, overlay, etc.
YT '720' seems a bit blurry but ok.

Did the Thorax, Merlin or second Brutix do anything before warping back out? Were you suspecting they'd come back if you purposefully got tackled by the brutix so it wouldn't warp if the drones got a jam off?

Also, Willl Adama did use that track for a good fight.

Vegas bugged out when I was saving the file and introduced a few seconds gap both in Audio & Video between the two clips rather than transitioning. It's fixed now but due to terrible internet at uni I didn't re-upload it.

According to the overview, nope. I figured they would stick around even after the Drake died, but apparently not. First fight in the Sleipnir so wasn't feeling confident about the tank being up to scratch to tanking both Brutixes, the Thorax and the Merlin simultaneously so just wanted to play it safe by kiting.

What video did he use it in? I honestly didn't realise this was the case..

[Daneel Trevize]

Deimos, first fight in EC- with his active tanked fit, which was also the fraps he did an EIE commentary over afaik.

Perhaps change how you list such bystander ships then? Some vid makers don't name those that are on grid but never lock/aggro (mostly on gate grids though). Perhaps lowercase them, use a diff/alpha'd colour or something. Prom & Kovorix have nice styles w.r.t. status iirc.

[Suleiman Shouaa]

Deimos, first fight in EC- with his active tanked fit, which was also the fraps he did an EIE commentary over afaik.

Perhaps change how you list such bystander ships then? Some vid makers don't name those that are on grid but never lock/aggro (mostly on gate grids though). Perhaps lowercase them, use a diff/alpha'd colour or something. Prom & Kovorix have nice styles w.r.t. status iirc.

Yeah the plan is to red out ships as they're killed. In this case I listed them all here since I came in expecting to have to fight all of them but I can see how that's misleading here.

[Daneel Trevize]

I think it's just a choice. Perhaps have comments text, state you had the obvious assumption you'll be up against them rather than perhaps knowing they're not going to join in, then fade them out once you establish they're not really involved.

It's your vid and effort, but doesn't seem like much to more clearly demonstrate the situation as it actually was rather than just rely on the fraps and people's interpretation/ambiguity. Don't forget many people will have vastly different experiences of such situations and not think how you would when in or watching a fight.
That's on the basis that fights in decent vids will be selected for unusual good happenings, so usually little technical details are important factors.

[Zach Donnell]

Cool Sule, look forward to the full vids. Might I ask what program you found? FRAPS still gives me issues occasionally.

As far as the vid, it did seem overly 'blurry' - That's really my only comment editing wise.

I am not sure if you are looking for feedback on the fights themselves, but regardless, neither of them inspired much excitement for me (granted I am old and that's hard to do now lol). I generally really enjoy 3 main types of fights. 1: When the fit being used is unusual or new, and has demonstrated ability. 2: Fights that are really close that leave me guessing until someone blows up, and 3: epic slaughters.

A few parts in the sleip fight were nice demonstrations of good manual positioning though, so props there. Anyway, I know obviously that a video of all perfect thrilling fights isn't a realistic expectation, but figured I'd mention it anyway!

[Suleiman Shouaa]

I think it's just a choice. Perhaps have comments text, state you had the obvious assumption you'll be up against them rather than perhaps knowing they're not going to join in, then fade them out once you establish they're not really involved.

It's your vid and effort, but doesn't seem like much to more clearly demonstrate the situation as it actually was rather than just rely on the fraps and people's interpretation/ambiguity. Don't forget many people will have vastly different experiences of such situations and not think how you would when in or watching a fight.
That's on the basis that fights in decent vids will be selected for unusual good happenings, so usually little technical details are important factors.

Yeah sure I'll take that into account for the real attempt.

Cool Sule, look forward to the full vids. Might I ask what program you found? FRAPS still gives me issues occasionally.

As far as the vid, it did seem overly 'blurry' - That's really my only comment editing wise.

I am not sure if you are looking for feedback on the fights themselves, but regardless, neither of them inspired much excitement for me (granted I am old and that's hard to do now lol). I generally really enjoy 3 main types of fights. 1: When the fit being used is unusual or new, and has demonstrated ability. 2: Fights that are really close that leave me guessing until someone blows up, and 3: epic slaughters.

A few parts in the sleip fight were nice demonstrations of good manual positioning though, so props there. Anyway, I know obviously that a video of all perfect thrilling fights isn't a realistic expectation, but figured I'd mention it anyway!

Bandicam is what I use now.

Yeah I think it's a YouTube thing - the .mkv file doesn't seem as blurry. I'll try and upload that at some point this week..

As for the fights, those were literally the first two I had after I installed Bandicam - if you check the timestamps, the Sleipnir fight occurs within <45 minutes of the Vengeance fight. I frapsed Vengeance vs Cynabal + Dramiel and will try to upload that at some point also...

[Zach Donnell]

Alright then, look forward to the real deal. In the meantime I think I will check out bandicam, thanks.

[Suleiman Shouaa]

MKV uploaded to Eve Files:

http://eve-files.com/dl/254174

[Lex Fasces]

bad video

too many force multipliers used

links and implants

you have no honour or skill

you also use falcon alts

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DLing video now =)

what was the name of the program? EDIT DERP bandicam lol



not bad although both were ganks =)

[Suleiman Shouaa]

Uploaded 2nr Preview.

First Fight: Vengeance vs Cynabal + Dramiel + Gateguns (at the very end)
Second Fight: Hawk (+ Late Sentinel) vs Catalyst (arrives very late), Firetail, Kitsune + 2 Ranises.

I do have Skirmish Links in the second fight but they barely made a difference since I was webbed for most of it and brawling point blank anyway.

Didn't have much time to play around with it in Vegas and Vegas was being weird so Cynabal fight takes aaaaaaaages.



Will start recording in earnest once I finish exams in ~3 weeks. Only got one good fight so far I've recorded - http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_...ll_id=13330882

Originally Myrmidon vs Hurricane + Myrmidon (didn't record, was just a gank).

They reship, call in friends until I can't tank them, so corpmate arrives in an unrigged Brutix and we slowly kite them to death until another corpmate arrives in a Cyclone to seal the deal. Fight here will be speed up ALOT as it lasted ~20 minutes. Luckily I have a corpmate whose willing to do all the editing for me so you won't have to put up with my feeble attempts at doing so \o/

Comments?

[Cavalira]

Did you have any links / implants that boosts the sleipnirs active tank?

also... great stuff! Can't wait till you get a full movie.

[Suleiman Shouaa]

Did you have any links / implants that boosts the sleipnirs active tank?

also... great stuff! Can't wait till you get a full movie.

Not right now, but just bought a boosting Tengu off Lex and will probably get some Crystals ~soon~.

[Orar Ironfist]

i couldnt see, but was the cynabal shooting you in that first fight? i didnt look like it just cause you werent taking any damage after you killed his drones (why would he NOT shoot you lol)

overall i think it looks great and the fights looked fun as hell. waiting for full vid.

(also going to check out the program as i could never use fraps cause it created too much lag)

[Suleiman Shouaa]

I was under his guns after that. I don't think he tried to shoot me after that, just tried to neut me off, but wouldn't have mattered as he would never have hit me apart from when I was trying to bump away from the gate.

[Smuggo]

i couldnt see, but was the cynabal shooting you in that first fight? i didnt look like it just cause you werent taking any damage after you killed his drones (why would he NOT shoot you lol)

overall i think it looks great and the fights looked fun as hell. waiting for full vid.

(also going to check out the program as i could never use fraps cause it created too much lag)

A frig can pretty much out track 425s if it's in nice and close.

[Cosmin]

I was under his guns after that. I don't think he tried to shoot me after that, just tried to neut me off, but wouldn't have mattered as he would never have hit me apart from when I was trying to bump away from the gate.

Still don't understand why people don't try to deagress, you weren't that far away from the gate. Also the "bonus" Dramiel kill was roflworthy, it's astonishing how he went down without being pointed at all, the new AFs are already known to be fairly deadly towards faction frigs.

Really nice video, you could try and cross off the ships that get blown off from the list so the fight can be followed a bit more easily.


LE: also thought Cynabals would run around with dual 220s instead of the 425s. A rifter can out-track 425s without any prop mods active when closely orbiting, but the vengeance does need a bit of prop there as it's not as fast.

[Suleiman Shouaa]

I was under his guns after that. I don't think he tried to shoot me after that, just tried to neut me off, but wouldn't have mattered as he would never have hit me apart from when I was trying to bump away from the gate.

Still don't understand why people don't try to deagress, you weren't that far away from the gate. Also the "bonus" Dramiel kill was roflworthy, it's astonishing how he went down without being pointed at all, the new AFs are already known to be fairly deadly towards faction frigs.

Really nice video, you could try and cross off the ships that get blown off from the list so the fight can be followed a bit more easily.


LE: also thought Cynabals would run around with dual 220s instead of the 425s. A rifter can out-track 425s without any prop mods active when closely orbiting, but the vengeance does need a bit of prop there as it's not as fast.

I deliberately turned off my scrambler a few times to fake having capacitor issues.

Yeah next (hopefully full length!) video will have proper editing.

Most Cynabals fit 425mms for the increased paperdoll DPS + increased falloff, not like they have fitting issues anyway. Not like un-tracking bonused 220mms will pop an un-webbed frigate anyway unless if they're retarded and headbutting you anyway....

[Lex Fasces]

yeah i dont know why the cynabal deaggroed, and then aggroed just before he hit armor.

lol and PUT THAT DAMN BOOSTING TENGU TO GOOD DAMN USE you faget