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    Quote Originally Posted by Xennith View Post
    Should I pitch it at a layman level, an expert level, or somewhere in between?
    Who's your audience? If you don't know, ask them.

    Also make sure your powerpoint doesn't only repeat what you're saying. Use it to show diagrams (to make it easier to understand) or to slightly expand on what you're talking about.

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    I have the names of the panel so I'm going to do my stalker bit to get an idea of backgrounds of the interviewers.

    Whenever I've given presentations before I've used the powerpoint to give bulletpoint overviews and then talked about the detail. I think diagrams is a good idea, perhaps some animations if I can get them working. I'll probably do some handouts as well, might as well look like I know what I'm doing.

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    I have no idea if that is a good idea or even possible, but maybe you can make the presentation to speak to both types? As in start at a layman / HR level and then ramp it up for the experts on the panel. 15 minutes is plenty of time. You can also, though that requires some flexibility within the situation, just change the level depending on who sits in front of you. You could have parts with extra layman explanation ready and skip over them or chuck them out beforehand altogether or vice versa, depending on your audience.
    If I had to make that call, I would see that I have a basic powerpoint presentation and a 15 minute script, but know enough to chuck things out or add information as I go depending on the looks I get.
    Please keep in mind, I never really been in an interview situation and most likely won't be ever either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xennith View Post
    I have a job interview next week for job which literally doubles my salary, they wish for me to deliver a 15 minute presentation (with Q & A after) before the interview panel bit, this is the first time I've ever done one of these for interview. Any tips? I'm ok with public speaking, know the (exceptionally technical) subject material fairly well so I'm not too worried about that, but I dont normally do presentations with powerpoint.

    Should I pitch it at a layman level, an expert level, or somewhere in between? I presume they want someone who can communicate with laymen and so everything I think should be approachable without any prior knowledge, but I want to show off a bit, so I need to get the depth there as well.

    I'm stressing about this and I havent even considered the (exceptionally managementy) interview bit which comes after.
    Pitch it at an intermediate level and above all avoid jargon and acronyms unless they are obvious and few in number and you properly explain them at first use.

    Also for serious win, explain that you intend to pitch it at an intermediate level during your introduction, and ask them to stop you and ask for more detail or simpler explanations as you go along. Make sure your notes/knowledge can handle this change.

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    So I have psychological assessments for a grad position I've applied for coming up (as mentioned in day thread) it specifically mentions to "Please dress comfortably – smart casual dress is appropriate for this session." Jeans aren't smart casual are they? Googling has provided contradictory information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrien View Post
    So I have psychological assessments for a grad position I've applied for coming up (as mentioned in day thread) it specifically mentions to "Please dress comfortably – smart casual dress is appropriate for this session." Jeans aren't smart casual are they? Googling has provided contradictory information.
    Smart casual in this context means:

    a suit with no tie (and if its warm, no jacket); or

    Smart trousers (chinos, cords, dress pants) and a tucked in long sleeved business shirt (any office-suitable colour/pattern).

    in either case with smart shoes.

    Don't listen to slobs who say to dress down lower than this. "Smart Casual" in a work context is different from "Smart Casual" in a bar/club context.

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    Ah ok easy I'll just wear a suit without tie then, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
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    Due to our vetting procedures your attached CV OR online application form MUST clearly detail all employment, education and gaps in employment over the last FIVE years to the nearest month with NO gaps.

    For some shitty £7 an hour security guard job, really?
    Probably a legal requirement thing.

    The actual employer won't be all that bothered about your past, but they need to fulfil a legal requirement to be able to call themselves a security firm or something, otherwise they'd be in trouble.

    Been various crackdowns in the past, about private security firms, where there's things such as money laundering, protection racketeering and so forth. So things have to be checkable by whatever body the local/national/whatever government has set up, and the firm can prove that they're not crooks.
    or terms of their insurance
    Hes probably going for a job at a british airport. The 5 years thing is the requirement for getting an airside pass.

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    As mentioned in the daythread the company I work for ran out of money today and is making moves toward selling the website I work on.

    The boss has assured me that he's going to do everything he can to ensure, first, that I get paid for the work I've done this month, and second that I have a job next month. Reassuring is the fact that one potential investor asked him if he'd be willing/able to run the site if they bought in (his answer was UH YES YES I WOULD YES INDEED YES). Not reassuring is the fact that, while I am integral to the process of posting articles and company profiles, those tasks could easily be integrated with the journalists and salespeople and make me redundant.

    Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    I am trying very hard not to panic right now.
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    Gets promoted to a new position. Boss hires someone from my current floor to take over for me. Boss wants me to write down everything I do, and every little quirk and bit of knowledge I carry to make this place run smoothly.

    At 5 pages single spaced, still have a lot more to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorkin Desal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KathDougans View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Al Simmons View Post
    Due to our vetting procedures your attached CV OR online application form MUST clearly detail all employment, education and gaps in employment over the last FIVE years to the nearest month with NO gaps.

    For some shitty £7 an hour security guard job, really?
    Probably a legal requirement thing.

    The actual employer won't be all that bothered about your past, but they need to fulfil a legal requirement to be able to call themselves a security firm or something, otherwise they'd be in trouble.

    Been various crackdowns in the past, about private security firms, where there's things such as money laundering, protection racketeering and so forth. So things have to be checkable by whatever body the local/national/whatever government has set up, and the firm can prove that they're not crooks.
    or terms of their insurance
    Hes probably going for a job at a british airport. The 5 years thing is the requirement for getting an airside pass.

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    It was for a job at the co-op supermarket i.e. standing around all day doing nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    Gets promoted to a new position. Boss hires someone from my current floor to take over for me. Boss wants me to write down everything I do, and every little quirk and bit of knowledge I carry to make this place run smoothly.

    At 5 pages single spaced, still have a lot more to do.
    Would take me an order or two of magnitude more to go into that level of detail =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    Gets promoted to a new position. Boss hires someone from my current floor to take over for me. Boss wants me to write down everything I do, and every little quirk and bit of knowledge I carry to make this place run smoothly.

    At 5 pages single spaced, still have a lot more to do.
    Would take me an order or two of magnitude more to go into that level of detail =/
    It sounds like all he needs to do is write a SOP and just have an appendix of situational problem solving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
    As mentioned in the daythread the company I work for ran out of money today and is making moves toward selling the website I work on.

    The boss has assured me that he's going to do everything he can to ensure, first, that I get paid for the work I've done this month, and second that I have a job next month. Reassuring is the fact that one potential investor asked him if he'd be willing/able to run the site if they bought in (his answer was UH YES YES I WOULD YES INDEED YES). Not reassuring is the fact that, while I am integral to the process of posting articles and company profiles, those tasks could easily be integrated with the journalists and salespeople and make me redundant.

    Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    I am trying very hard not to panic right now.
    Haven't read thread / know you /car etc., but if you haven't already, start branding yourself and work (posting Blogs, etc) as social media management and make sure you know all you need to know to bullshit about tagging, social media, and SEO. Make sure to make it sound difficult and you wont be replaced
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
    As mentioned in the daythread the company I work for ran out of money today and is making moves toward selling the website I work on.

    The boss has assured me that he's going to do everything he can to ensure, first, that I get paid for the work I've done this month, and second that I have a job next month. Reassuring is the fact that one potential investor asked him if he'd be willing/able to run the site if they bought in (his answer was UH YES YES I WOULD YES INDEED YES). Not reassuring is the fact that, while I am integral to the process of posting articles and company profiles, those tasks could easily be integrated with the journalists and salespeople and make me redundant.

    Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    I am trying very hard not to panic right now.
    Haven't read thread / know you /car etc., but if you haven't already, start branding yourself and work (posting Blogs, etc) as social media management and make sure you know all you need to know to bullshit about tagging, social media, and SEO. Make sure to make it sound difficult and you wont be replaced
    +rep, I think I will do exactly this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrien View Post
    So I have psychological assessments for a grad position I've applied for coming up (as mentioned in day thread) it specifically mentions to "Please dress comfortably – smart casual dress is appropriate for this session." Jeans aren't smart casual are they? Googling has provided contradictory information.
    Smart casual in this context means:

    a suit with no tie (and if its warm, no jacket); or

    Smart trousers (chinos, cords, dress pants) and a tucked in long sleeved business shirt (any office-suitable colour/pattern).

    in either case with smart shoes.

    Don't listen to slobs who say to dress down lower than this. "Smart Casual" in a work context is different from "Smart Casual" in a bar/club context.
    It depends on the workplace in question, and also how 'casual' the jeans are. You're more likely to get away with jeans if they don't have gaping holes in them, for example. At my office, 'smart' jeans are by far the most popular option on Fridays - mind you, we're towards the casual extreme. Colleagues have been known to turn up in shorts / jogging bottoms + vest + trainers / sandals on hot summer days.

    Of course, for interviews it makes sense to err on the side of caution. It's much harder to be too formal than it is to be too casual.

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    so I've got an interview for a position in tourism in cheshire (lol who the fuck wants to come here) with the council

    wut should i do? since unceremonially leaving uni 2 years ago, i haven't had a job i can actually PAYE for (re; building the odd PC, decoration) so I'm sort of out of the loop when it comes to interviews. I've already researched tons on the boring dull shit there is to see in cheshire (I did geography so this was simple), and I have a nice suit/haircut/personality/ etc so is there anything else i need? ideally need tips from people versed in working in local/regional government

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    oh and what the fuck should i wear. i feel lost without a full suit, but it's like 25c every day here

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    You can wear a full suit in 25c... thats not even hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrien View Post
    You can wear a full suit in 25c... thats not even hot.
    35C is hot, 25C is damn nice.

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