[TMA] Solo Plexing in 0.0

[tuncan]

Sorry if its already been discussed here but i couldn't find it.

I heard people soloing up till 10/10 ( not 10/10 ) with a tengu.
and then i heard that ishtar can do the same thing for serpentis.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default...=posts&t=30338

this guy did some math but umm, im not sure :/.

First of all,
at what range those serpentis ships spawn? 30km?60km? or closer?
can i speedtank in an ishtar?
that fit is not cap stable, should i use passive shield ishtar instead?

what other ships i can use? what does serpentis shoot mostly? Can i use any other hac? what about t3's?

[Ralara]

There are very, VERY few ships that can do it.

Ishtar set up as follows:

SPRs in the lows, 4x LSE IIs and a Corpum A type (iirc) heat disipation amp in mids, rigs would be the purgers (II if you can, I will do I guess). Highs - cloak and a civ gun.

That will let you solo All serpentis and all guristas up to 8/10.

You will be able to do Angels up to ~~ 6/10 with that as well but it'll fail miserably afterwards.

Tengu I'm assuming would be set up in a similar fashion - but your DPS will be PITIFUL as you'll need the SPRs in the lows. AB wont work cos you'll cap out.


you can do an AB version - AB + cap rechargers in mids, lows would be passive amps, an A type MAR and DC and rigs would be the ones that give 15% (or 20% for the II) extra amoutn of armour repped - this is more effective against angels but is VERY vulnerable to webbing, target painting and neuting.

[tuncan]

thx a lot,
at what range do they spawn? should i use sentries or heavies?

[Ralara]

thx a lot,
at what range do they spawn? should i use sentries or heavies?

carry both. Though I used to do it with 3-5 ishtars at once with scouts on gates - gain full aggression, release heavies and set to "defend" against the main tank - all ishtars set up identically so it didnt matter what got hit. If you're solo solo, it'll take a LONG time and some of the end bosses will test your DPS - you can technically do it, but literally a couple of hours. If you dual box, I suggest 2 ishtars doing it - it'll be a lot faster

range - anywhere from 2km to 60-90km. They will all come in to you and orbit at a max of 50km tho

[Smuggo]

I have a lowish dps tengu that easily tanks all Angel and Serpentis DEDs. Can do up to 8/10 blood, guristas and sansha confirmed. Could probably do 10/10 Gurista and Sansha if you had decent deadspace EM hardeners on it but not tried. Not Blood though due to neuts.

As I say though, dps isn't great so bring an alt in a Tornado or something else with lots of deeps to burn through them quicker.

Fit is:
5x HML II

Gist X-type Large shield booster
Gist B-type shield amp
RF 10mn afterburner
3x racial hardeners

4x faction BCU
Damage control/Grav backup array

cap control circuit I
cap control circuit II
Warhead rigor catalyst II

defensive - amplification node
engineering - cap regen matrix
electronics - disolution sequencer
propulsion - fuel catalyst
offensive - accelerated ejection bay

[Sponk]

I have completed all serpentis ded complexes with a 6 launcher Tengu (except for one of the newer ones whose station reps too fast)
They're seriously that easy.

Blah blah tapatalk

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Basically kiting is much much slower but much much more effective.

Also that thread and the responses / lack of knowledge / etc. abounding amongst the people commenting on his guide really remind me just how clueless a huge part of the playerbase is

[TimNeilson]

I've been running the serpentis 8/10s and 10/10s lately with a pair of tornados, something tanky, and a 4-rep scim. Stick a tracking link from the scim onto one of the nados and you don't even have any problems hitting the small stuff. Plus the tornados just blow right through the stations at the end of those two. You can also run the first two parts of the fleet staging point like that, although for the third I like to drop a carrier or dread on it so I don't have to deal with all the spawns. The carrier is a little bit faster, just because you don't have to deal with waiting out the siege cycle once the station dies.

E: hell, with the scim there you don't even really need the tanky whatever, but it's nice to have a bit of insurance imo.

[Roime]

I've been running the serpentis 8/10s and 10/10s lately with a pair of tornados, something tanky, and a 4-rep scim. Stick a tracking link from the scim onto one of the nados and you don't even have any problems hitting the small stuff. Plus the tornados just blow right through the stations at the end of those two. You can also run the first two parts of the fleet staging point like that, although for the third I like to drop a carrier or dread on it so I don't have to deal with all the spawns. The carrier is a little bit faster, just because you don't have to deal with waiting out the siege cycle once the station dies.

E: hell, with the scim there you don't even really need the tanky whatever, but it's nice to have a bit of insurance imo.

Sounds almost like solo plexing.

OP,

I wouldn't take my single MAR Ishtar into the higher end plexes. It's an absolute boss of <6/10s and anoms, tho. Yes, it speed tanks, you either orbit the sentries or rats and watch the rats miss most of the time, but it really doesn't have much reps and new spawns can get hairy.

Dual MAR or passive shield, but the PST version gives up a lot of applied dps for tank and would be too slow solo. Of course you can also range tank with Ishtar, get aggro, drop sentries and run around in circles so the rats stay in your sentry optimal. If webber frigs get you, abandon sentries, drop lights and reconnect to sentries after recalling the lights. I'm impatient, and want to use the guns as well so I tend to dive right in.

Dual MAR Proteus seems to get a massive tank (1600+) against serp/guristas, and can field 4 sentries+guns of your choice. I'm getting one in the hopes I'd actually find a juicy plex one day.

[Smuggo]

I have completed all serpentis ded complexes with a 6 launcher Tengu (except for one of the newer ones whose station reps too fast)
They're seriously that easy.

Blah blah tapatalk

Yeah the fit I have is overtanked for many things, but live in a WH so can't refit subs because CCP is bad

[Ralara]

I just used ishtars because with 5 of them you dont need to worry about reload or ammo or whatever - can stay in space for days at a time. go in plex, get full stage aggro, send in others, "defend" / "protect" the tank with ur drones and ur good - slow boat to next gate keeping an eye on local on one of the accounts whilst jerking off to hentai ... easy as pie.

Slower, but way less effort.

[whispous]

Ishtar tank + naga > 2x ishtars

[whispous]

Ishtar tank + naga > 2x ishtars

grarr come and confirm this bro

[tuncan]

thx for the reply, gonna try 2x mar armor tank ishtar ( 970ish serpentis tank ) with 500ish drone dps - drone rigs -. If it doesn't work i will try shield ishtar posted above + talos.

[Duckslayer]

use an SPR drake. Easily tanks all the serp DEDs and does so little DPS, youll never need to do one again

[Malaes]

Ishtar tank + naga > 2x ishtars

Why not the talos over the naga?

[Varcaus]

Ishtar tank + naga > 2x ishtars

Why not the talos over the naga?

Sitting way far way from the spawns/hitting spawns at range I guess.

[Duckslayer]

you have to burn for gates anyway so may as well fit MWD to a talos. More dps, better tracking.

[Ralara]

Ishtar tank + naga > 2x ishtars

well, clearly, anything that does > 450/500 DPS will be better than an ishtar at killing stuff faster, but the beauty of ishtars is it's basically fire and forget - and it scales upwards. Personal preference ofc - I mean, an ishtar + Nightmare or ishtar + raven or Ishtar + just about any T3 BC / BS is technically more DPS but it's also more effort.

[Ezekiel Sulastin]

Dual MAR Proteus seems to get a massive tank (1600+) against serp/guristas, and can field 4 sentries+guns of your choice. I'm getting one in the hopes I'd actually find a juicy plex one day.

And the Ishtar will do much better effective damage than a 4-sentry 3-gun Proteus since it's not nearly as hobbled by range and travel. Heck, with an armor tank you can wedge 2x FN Omni Tracking Links to push Garde optimal to 50 km - this is the orbit radius of the far tier of Guristas BS ...

If you really want to hurl ammo downrange, get a Tengu - a 6 ML/4 BCU Tengu will do a lot of damage and actually tank well. It drinks ammo though ...