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    On the topic of visually stunning but utimatley bad movies

    See anything by zack snyder

    Suckerpunch
    300
    Watchmen

    And for some reason chris nolan is letting him do superman? I hope nolan reigns him in.

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    Watchmen was good, characters good especially blue, ending good, funny, all round good movie.
    300 was decent semi-gay violence porn too.

    What peeved you about Watchmen?
    Maybe you read the comics and it didn't live up to them, is that it? I never did, so for me it was great movie, best superhero movie in a long while. (They're all pretty bad, if you don't go by light entertainment standards)

    Have to agree on Suckerpunch though, I expected a bit more.

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    Its not pretentious,
    Yeah, I was asking for more info on what was so pretentious, but to no avail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rans View Post
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    Although cool it would ruin the 1st film's pretentious idea.
    Nobody cares about the link between poor aliens and poor black people as an undertone for the movie thats supposed to make us think about how we handle africa. Its a good scifi movie about aliens with cool guns and humans being dicks.
    I'm sorry but I think you don't get "District 9". It has a very, very specific idea behind it and some very pretentious message, the way we treat other people, social differences, racism, discrimination, the value of human life, ignorance, the power of media, etc.

    There's so much "good" in the movie, too bad people only see "oh aleins luzl"
    I get it, i just dont care because i find the opinion of the writer/director/other on the subject of everything irrelevant and im perfectly capable of producing coherent thoughts without a movie having to point at it.

    I watched District 9 for the story, the aliens, the pewpewing and it was a good movie. Now i want to see the aliens come back and pewpew humans.

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    i thought watchmen was alright, but i never read the comic so i can understand if it's actually shit.

    another c00l movie i watched last night was Hunter Prey, yet another low-budget sci-fi film available on netflix insta.

    it's great though, reminiscent of Enemy Mine. it was filmed in mexico or someplace, and most of the budget was used on makeup. the shots in the film are very well done, and i think it as done solely with the red camera. it's really cool to see them use what they had for the costumes and props.

    the story is a bit weak, and the acting is generic, but i think the film is quite the accomplishment given the budget and some of the really stellar shots. it has a very 70's feel, which is both good and bad.

    it's just a fun movie to watch on instaview, so watch it.

    another cool short to watch on instaview is the fucking dead space animated film, along with the sequel, though it isn't as good as the first. the backstory to this game is pretty neato, i'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qui Shon View Post
    Watchmen was good, characters good especially blue, ending good, funny, all round good movie.
    300 was decent semi-gay violence porn too.

    What peeved you about Watchmen?
    Maybe you read the comics and it didn't live up to them, is that it? I never did, so for me it was great movie, best superhero movie in a long while. (They're all pretty bad, if you don't go by light entertainment standards)

    Have to agree on Suckerpunch though, I expected a bit more.

    Quote Originally Posted by cullnean View Post
    Its not pretentious,
    Yeah, I was asking for more info on what was so pretentious, but to no avail
    Correct its the comic book thing,

    I also believe that while visually snyder is a boss I don't think he can get the best out of actors, but I still watch his movies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Foiritain View Post
    Now i want to see the aliens come back and pewpew humans.
    Aye, and there's no reason that couldn't be made into a supremely touching story, while still maintaining the duality of having ourselves to blame. Humanity is attacked and loses and it's a plight and supremely touching and in the end, as in all good tragedies, the main characters all die and then it's hinted that the human race is wiped out. Now that'd leave an emotional mark, if done well enough so I could immerse myself in it.

    Made me think about sci-fi where humans lose...and I came up short. I'm sure there must be even in movie/tv form but...I can't remember any now.

    I mean Minbari wipe the floor with humans in the backstory but ultimately John saves the galaxy and humans are the most important race anyway.
    Farscapes that dude is inferior to the others in senses, strength, intelligence, but still he's the boss all the time.
    Andromeda, yeah, humans from earth do get trampled on, but everyone else is human too, pretty much.
    BG, now there's one series where humans lose a war and are on the run ever since.

    What I'd like to see is a touching story where an alien race is at the center of it, if it's non-humanoid even better, and humans are supporting characters.

    Hunter Prey was okay agreed, worth an hour and a half.
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    i think ppl are missing the point that its not the ideas that are pretentious its the execution that makes it so. district 9 was fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qui Shon View Post
    What I'd like to see is a touching story where an alien race is at the center of it, if it's non-humanoid even better, and humans are supporting characters.
    non humanoids would be hard to make, and i really i dont see that sort of thing working well, just cause you couldnt relate to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qui Shon View Post
    Made me think about sci-fi where humans lose...and I came up short
    Invasion of the Body Snatchers

    i guess if you take first three Terminator movies, Skynet always is created and nukes everything due to time travel paradox

    while Twelve Monkeys dont have aliens, doesnt Bruce Willis fails to prevent virus apocalypse at the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qui Shon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Foiritain View Post
    Now i want to see the aliens come back and pewpew humans.
    Aye, and there's no reason that couldn't be made into a supremely touching story, while still maintaining the duality of having ourselves to blame. Humanity is attacked and loses and it's a plight and supremely touching and in the end, as in all good tragedies, the main characters all die and then it's hinted that the human race is wiped out. Now that'd leave an emotional mark, if done well enough so I could immerse myself in it.

    Made me think about sci-fi where humans lose...and I came up short. I'm sure there must be even in movie/tv form but...I can't remember any now.

    I mean Minbari wipe the floor with humans in the backstory but ultimately John saves the galaxy and humans are the most important race anyway.
    Farscapes that dude is inferior to the others in senses, strength, intelligence, but still he's the boss all the time.
    Andromeda, yeah, humans from earth do get trampled on, but everyone else is human too, pretty much.
    BG, now there's one series where humans lose a war and are on the run ever since.

    What I'd like to see is a touching story where an alien race is at the center of it, if it's non-humanoid even better, and humans are supporting characters.

    Hunter Prey was okay agreed, worth an hour and a half.
    The humans ultimately lose in Skyline but oh god that was a bad movie.

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    they should remake War of the Worlds, with the same asshole actors, but have the ending make sense. so yeah, dakota fanning, dead. tom cruise, dead. everyone, dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Panda View Post
    they should remake War of the Worlds, with the same asshole actors, but have the ending make sense. so yeah, dakota fanning, dead. tom cruise, dead. everyone, dead.
    What about killing them in the movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisReaper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Space Panda View Post
    they should remake War of the Worlds, with the same asshole actors, but have the ending make sense. so yeah, dakota fanning, dead. tom cruise, dead. everyone, dead.
    What about killing them in the movie?
    that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesadt View Post
    non humanoids would be hard to make, and i really i dont see that sort of thing working well, just cause you couldnt relate to them.
    Sure I could. You didn't relate to Wall-E? Or to Bambi when you were a kid?
    It doesn't have to be humanoid to anthropomorphize it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gesadt View Post
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    Made me think about sci-fi where humans lose...and I came up short
    Invasion of the Body Snatchers
    Ahh yes, I've seen this, both versions. Good call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qui Shon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gesadt View Post
    non humanoids would be hard to make, and i really i dont see that sort of thing working well, just cause you couldnt relate to them.
    Sure I could. You didn't relate to Wall-E? Or to Bambi when you were a kid?
    It doesn't have to be humanoid to anthropomorphize it.
    well yes if you anthropomorphize it doesnt even matter if its humanoid or not then, since it has relatable human features anyway. i assumed you were talking about something completely non human.

    and before wall-e there was this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091949/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesadt View Post
    and before wall-e there was this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091949/
    I know. And *I* could relate to a featureless gelatine blob through storyline too, but I'm not going to fool myself that such a thing would ever sell. But if Bambi can sell and Wall-E can sell, then so can a spider thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cullnean View Post
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    Although cool it would ruin the 1st film's pretentious idea.
    Nobody cares about the link between poor aliens and poor black people as an undertone for the movie thats supposed to make us think about how we handle africa. Its a good scifi movie about aliens with cool guns and humans being dicks.
    I'm sorry but I think you don't get "District 9". It has a very, very specific idea behind it and some very pretentious message, the way we treat other people, social differences, racism, discrimination, the value of human life, ignorance, the power of media, etc.

    There's so much "good" in the movie, too bad people only see "oh aleins luzl"
    Its not pretentious, its a great movie on a shitty budget with a mostly improvised star turn from sharlto copley, in the wrong hands it could have been an overblown mess, in blomkamps hands its well executed and at times touching movie.

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    You're misunderstanding me, I think District 9 is a great movie, but it chose a pretty bad way of transmitting a very serious and complex message, because people like Joshua really can't see beyond the aliens. So yeah, that makes it pretentious to me, it has a message that it can't really carry well to the viewers.
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    Watched a couple of old movies yesterday.

    The Battle of the River Plate: I love these old war movies from the days where they'd use the ships that took part when possible (Graf Spee was a US Cruiser but they couldn't use the real thing anyways. HMS Cumberland and HMNZS Achilles played themselves, the other two British ships weren't still around to be in the film) and kept it historically accurate. Much better than all the plucky American or Brit with a Californian accent wins the war solo crap now days.

    The Sting: Conmen rip off some guys in the Great Depression, hilarity ensures. Really good movie with really good actors (Robert Redford, Paul Newman). Would recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Panda View Post

    another c00l movie i watched last night was Hunter Prey, yet another low-budget sci-fi film available on netflix insta.

    it's great though, reminiscent of Enemy Mine. it was filmed in mexico or someplace, and most of the budget was used on makeup. the shots in the film are very well done, and i think it as done solely with the red camera. it's really cool to see them use what they had for the costumes and props.

    the story is a bit weak, and the acting is generic, but i think the film is quite the accomplishment given the budget and some of the really stellar shots. it has a very 70's feel, which is both good and bad.

    it's just a fun movie to watch on instaview, so watch it.
    Confirming this is a cool lowbudget scifi trash movie, watch it if you like that kind of thing.

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