Movie Thread (Bearded Cage)

[Gesadt]

I'm of the opinion that a a sequel to District 9 would ruin District 9. Why can't we be satisfied with just the one movie?

reason is always the same - money. its the suits think that the people want another movie. and they probably do want it, against their better judgment. general populace doesn't know any better. same as it ever was

[Pacefalm]

The Matrix sequels

Only silly mainstream people who didn't understand from the first movie that it's actually a live action anime, are disappointed by the sequels.

I must admit I did not dislike them that much, but I included them since the overall response is very negative.
Imho if you see Reloaded as a stand alone action flick it is actually quite a decent film.
Revolutions though is neither a good story nor a good action film so meh

[Lancehot]

I didn't much care for Mongol. The story of the brutal founder of the largest continuous empire in history turned into a romance drama with occasional fights & an epic battle that doesn't happen because it starts raining.

[Klesk]

As far as I am aware, the reason the Matrix sequels sucked compared to the first film is that while they were being made Larry Wachowski ran off with a Dominatrix and did not resurface for a year or so later.
Also, when he did, he returned as Lana Wachowski.

[Qui Shon]

As far as I am aware, the reason the Matrix sequels sucked compared to the first film is that while they were being made Larry Wachowski ran off with a Dominatrix and did not resurface for a year or so later.
Also, when he did, he returned as Lana Wachowski.

Except they didn't suck, so the joke fails. Never mind that gender change happened later.

[Winged Nazgul]

As far as I am aware, the reason the Matrix sequels sucked compared to the first film is that while they were being made Larry Wachowski ran off with a Dominatrix and did not resurface for a year or so later.
Also, when he did, he returned as Lana Wachowski.

Musta been a hell of a dominatrix.

[Klesk]

Extract from a rolling stone article I cannot find.
http://lecter.org/forum/showthread.php?t=248

Probably NSFW.

[Paradox]

I'm somewhat known for having terrible taste but I never saw what was particularly wrong with the matrix sequels. Everyone always seems to spout about them being the worst abominations of film since plan 9 from outer space but really.

Film is, in my mind, primarily a visual medium, any film that makes you look twice and think "well that's pretty cool" a few times can't really be a bad film can it? Even Revolutions had those APU things that were really cool.

Is also one of the reasons that I liked Avatar.

[Klesk]

I'm somewhat known for having terrible taste but I never saw what was particularly wrong with the matrix sequels. Everyone always seems to spout about them being the worst abominations of film since plan 9 from outer space but really.

Film is, in my mind, primarily a visual medium, any film that makes you look twice and think "well that's pretty cool" a few times can't really be a bad film can it? Even Revolutions had those APU things that were really cool.

Is also one of the reasons that I liked Avatar.

I agree that they are great movies in their own right. I was excited for their release and paid to watch them at the cinema but compared to the first, for me, they do not compare.

[Rans]

Also rewatched district 9, which is still awesome. I want a goddamn sequel though. Apparently there's still plans for it but its not expected before 2015 (Also i think i lacked subtitles for the alien bits when i first watched it, it made more sense this time around)

I wish there were more good movies about global politics.

How does it make sense to make a sequel to an alien movie that is actually a movie about the poor black people in South Africa? How would it work?

[Mona]

How does it make sense to make a sequel to an alien movie that is actually a movie about the poor black people in South Africa? How would it work?

Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3TQmCTWFbg&t=1m14s

[Rans]

Although cool it would ruin the 1st film's pretentious idea.

[Qui Shon]

Although cool it would ruin the 1st film's pretentious idea.

What pretentious idea is that?

[Al Simmons]

I'm somewhat known for having terrible taste but I never saw what was particularly wrong with the matrix sequels. Everyone always seems to spout about them being the worst abominations of film since plan 9 from outer space but really.

Film is, in my mind, primarily a visual medium, any film that makes you look twice and think "well that's pretty cool" a few times can't really be a bad film can it? Even Revolutions had those APU things that were really cool.

Is also one of the reasons that I liked Avatar.

So what is visual or exciting to have Neo meet up with the Architect and stand around spouting incomprehensible dialogue at each other for like 10 minutes? The action in the sequels was retarded, it was just CGI vomit all over the place. It was completely fake and unbelievable. The Matrix toed that line, but never really stepped over it, all the stuff Neo was doing was believable in the confines of the story. It looked good, the cinematography was great, and the stuff like the bullet time shots were done with physical cameras in a ring and then stitching them together afterwards. Not 100% greenscreen and generated entirely in a computer like the sequels. Man do you remember the hype about the second film, and the fucking "burly brawl" fight scene? And then we saw it and it just looked like a retarded videogame.

Red Letter Media need to do a Plinkett review of the Matrix sequels to point out exactly how wrong you are. They actually have a lot in common with the SW prequels in how they overreached so far and failed so utterly miserably.

[Qui Shon]

So what is visual or exciting to have Neo meet up with the Architect and stand around spouting incomprehensible dialogue at each other for like 10 minutes? The action in the sequels was retarded, it was just CGI vomit all over the place. It was completely fake and unbelievable. The Matrix toed that line, but never really stepped over it, all the stuff Neo was doing was believable in the confines of the story. It looked good, the cinematography was great, and the stuff like the bullet time shots were done with physical cameras in a ring and then stitching them together afterwards. Not 100% greenscreen and generated entirely in a computer like the sequels. Man do you remember the hype about the second film, and the fucking "burly brawl" fight scene? And then we saw it and it just looked like a retarded videogame.

Ya, like I said:

Only silly mainstream people who didn't understand from the first movie that it's actually a live action anime, are disappointed by the sequels.

Only you might not scorn japanime?

[Al Simmons]

Well it's clearly not actually a live action anime, nor was it positioned as one. That smacks of an exculpation of the sloppy writing and dialogue more than anything else.

[tulip]

Well it's clearly not actually a live action anime, nor was it positioned as one. That smacks of an exculpation of the sloppy writing and dialogue more than anything else.

Agreeing with Al :/

Stylising your shit film, just makes it a stylised shit film, not a good film.

[Xiang Jiao]

I've been watching a lot of Hong Kong action movies recently, notably, John Woo's gangster films such as A Better Tomorrow, Hard Boiled, and Bullet in the Head. It's clear that these films were meant to push the envelop with regard to onscreen violence of well shot and edited gun fighting, but it is not surprising how incredibly pedestrian they look today. I know this is due to modern cinema emulating this action style over and over again.

On another note, I just watched V for Vendetta for the first time. I'm not sure why yet, but I didn't like it. Maybe it was Portman's stylized English accent for the film. What region was that supposed to be anyway? As an American, I have trouble identifying accents from the UK, but it just sounded generic like what Madonna started talking like after she lived in England for a while.

[Pacefalm]

I quite liked V for Vendetta

[Fuggin]

V for Vendetta is shit. I left part way through it and went into another theater to watch another movie.