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    The Mittani's apology

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default...79#post1008079

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mittani
    This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible. I didn't know the extent of how much of a shitheel I had been until today, when footage of the presentation went up. As many of you now know, I gave out the in-game character name of a Mackinaw miner if anyone had wanted to blow him up - except that I was so smashed that I didn't recall exactly what I said (as anyone who was there can tell you). When I came to the forums the other day and saw threads complaining about my behavior - not remembering what I'd said - I assumed that I was enduring the usual anti-Goonswarm trolls, and posted something like "deal with it~" in my usual "The Mittani" way.

    Then I landed, and saw the article listing my actual quote.

    Christ.

    I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel. It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance. But I am not that character in real life, as anyone who has met me can attest. I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event. I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist, and I certainly don't want people to kill themselves in real life over an internet spaceship game, no matter what I may say or do within the game itself. CCP may say 'EVE is Real', but EVE is not real - and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.

    I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.

    If I could go back in time and not have included the slide mentioning the miner, I would do so. While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.

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    Because the fanfest thread was getting too crowded?
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

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    I have mixed feelings about this.

    One the one hand, it's EVE and most of us EVE players are horrible people. This is to be expected in what is essentially one of the most ruthless alternate-society simulations ever created.

    On the other hand, as a person who has both suffered from severe depression, and who has used MMOs as a way to cope with that depression, this kind of thing is sort of disquieting.

    It's worth pointing out that a) this isn't the first time Mittens has told someone to kill themselves, and b) the guy didn't actually commit suicide.

    Still don't think he should keep his seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Because the fanfest thread was getting too crowded?
    some crybabies went all QQ over it and we couldn't have an adult conversation

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr axler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Because the fanfest thread was getting too crowded?
    some crybabies went all QQ over it and we couldn't have an adult conversation
    Hatred and anger are powerful forces; Mittens has done a lot to earn hatred over the years by playing the character of a malevolent blowhard, which may or may not be a part of who he really is.
    Last edited by Evelgrivion; March 27 2012 at 07:08:19 AM.

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    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr axler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Because the fanfest thread was getting too crowded?
    some crybabies went all QQ over it and we couldn't have an adult conversation
    and now some crybabies just have 2 threads to shit up..
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

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    Mittens can eat shit and apologize all he wants if it makes CCP feel better. However, I think he should stay on the CSM for one simple reason:

    With the exception of a few honorable gentlemen, the previous CSMs were largely made up of low-watt gurglers in high-back chairs :anklebiter: , and CCP treated them with the same attention they would a nugget of dog shit stuck between the treads of their Icelandic-made waffle stomper shoes. Mittani at least made them look up from their Brennivin and Pee Shark through a combination of embarassing PR and outright blackmail. If thats what it takes to make CCP take action, I say feed Mittens more Jaeger!
    Last edited by The Crushah; March 27 2012 at 07:40:59 AM. Reason: fucking emoticons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dr axler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Because the fanfest thread was getting too crowded?
    some crybabies went all QQ over it and we couldn't have an adult conversation
    and now some crybabies just have 2 threads to shit up..
    you have 5001 posts, proving no thread is safe from shitted-up-titude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe space View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dr axler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Because the fanfest thread was getting too crowded?
    some crybabies went all QQ over it and we couldn't have an adult conversation
    and now some crybabies just have 2 threads to shit up..
    you have 5001 posts, proving no thread is safe from shitted-up-titude.
    Anything in the health section is safe, i don't go there anymore after the incident.. And I try to help in the IT section more than shitpost, but its hard man.. so many retards..
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

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    i think he should remain in his chair, but be thrown in the volcano at the end of his term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Panda View Post
    i think he should remain in his chair, but be thrown in the volcano at the start of his term.
    FYP to something that pleases me more.
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Space Panda View Post
    i think he should remain in his chair, but be thrown in the volcano at the start of his term.
    FYP to something that pleases me more.
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    why didnt he just add "in game" to the end of his sentance. fuckin noob. lrn2play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    I'm a fucking retard
    FYP to something that pleases me more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by noobcake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    I'm a fucking retard
    FYP to something that pleases me more.
    I think you would find it very hard to get someone on these boards to disagree with you there.
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

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    this whole thing is the biggest non-issue in the history of non-issues.

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    Good post by Mittens (although perhaps a bit too self-deprecating) and I hope this is "case closed". I don't really see any need for this to go beyond an apology. It would have been different if this guy was clearly found to be RL suicidal and Mittens knew about that before he made those remarks or if he had actually taken his own life, but none of this is fortunately the case.

    Edit: Also that picture by Sponk is hilarious.
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    On the one hand, Mittens resigning over this seems a bit much.

    On the other, having two step as chairman would be fucking awesome.

    So I'm torn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by noobcake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    I'm a fucking retard
    FYP to something that pleases me more.
    I think you would find it very hard to get someone on these boards to disagree with you there.
    You're both shit posting retards who should fucking shut up

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