The Mittani's apology

[Smuggo]

Using Mittens RL name was not right though.

Why? It's publicly available information.

[XenosisReaper]

Using Mittens RL name was not right though.

Why? It's publicly available information.

I never lie

[Cogs]

during the eve radio broadcast someone posted his home address in the chat

Ban

then someone else said they were going to go rape his wife.

Ban
GM Cogs Sorted.

[Frug]

I honestly don't know how it is elsewhere but right now 'cyberbully' has similar impact to pedophile in US media

::frysquint::

I hesitantly, with strong acknowledgement of my not being american, would like to point out how stupid and unlikely this sounds.

[Frug]

What irks me is the bad press EvE has gotten out of this whole thing, and let's be perfectly frank this has gone on as long as it has for one reason: Some people have lost their shit over internet spaceships so completely, that they don't care who it hurts, as long as they can drag mittens through the mud. I mean seriously, during the eve radio broadcast someone posted his home address in the chat, then someone else said they were going to go rape his wife. The kind of abject unthinking hatred this whole spectacle is built upon is probably one of the few things that could kill eve, or at least stunt it's growth. I find that to be disheartening.

I question how much of on impact on actual players this sort of nonsense has. I mean, how many people who play eve actually care about this sort of whining, PG13 rating, politically correct garbage?
Of the market group for gaming blogs like massively, how many are hyper sensitive enough to base a decision to play an mmo or not (or are parents who follow this crap) based on it? Or is this more of the usual rabble rabble people starting rabble rabble rabble while 99% of people continue playing what they enjoy playing regardless of the noise?

People are bored and want things to talk about. This thread proves that much. That doesn't mean that anything short of CCP doing something completely insane like officially encouraging player suicide would have any measurable effect.

Likewise how much of a positive effect do they get by making it to the news yet again? I, for one, would be enticed to see what this world of sociopaths is like. I'm a horrible person but there are lots of us horrible people around.

[Varcaus]

I honestly don't know how it is elsewhere but right now 'cyberbully' has similar impact to pedophile in US media

::frysquint::

I hesitantly, with strong acknowledgement of my not being american, would like to point out how stupid and unlikely this sounds.

To bad it's true. Fuck this country.

[TheManFromDelmonte]

It's obviously cyber bulling, richard bacon says so:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1356253.html

[Lallante]

Using Mittens RL name was not right though.

Why? It's publicly available information.

Thats not relevant - if you connect his name with such strong negative allegations in the same page, it becomes a searchable result. Obviously what mittens did was wrong but he did it because he was drunk, surrounded by sycophantic aspies and dumb, not because he is genuinely a bad guy. He doesn't deserve to have his name permanently linked to cyber bullying.

[NoirAvlaa]

Using Mittens RL name was not right though.

Why? It's publicly available information.

Thats not relevant - if you connect his name with such strong negative allegations in the same page, it becomes a searchable result. Obviously what mittens did was wrong but he did it because he was drunk, surrounded by sycophantic aspies and dumb, not because he is genuinely a bad guy. He doesn't deserve to have his name permanently linked to cyber bullying.

And Mel Gibson doesn't hate on Jews because he was drunk when he said those nasty things. When he's sober, he's an awesome guy!

Being drunk is not an excuse. He said those things in a panel where his name was, in real life. His real life name was used in the report. Makes sense. It wasn't "in-game".

[indeterminacy]

Makes sense. It wasn't "in-game".

[Frug]

And Mel Gibson doesn't hate on Jews because he was drunk when he said those nasty things. When he's sober, he's an awesome guy!

I know nuance and context is difficult for some people to understand, but if the question is whether or not he's a 'cyber bully' (or just a bully) the fact that he was drunk does change matters. Likewise if you ignore all the other differences in your comparisons, you're an idiot.

[Lady Spank]

your an idoit

[NoirAvlaa]

And Mel Gibson doesn't hate on Jews because he was drunk when he said those nasty things. When he's sober, he's an awesome guy!

I know nuance and context is difficult for some people to understand, but if the question is whether or not he's a 'cyber bully' (or just a bully) the fact that he was drunk does change matters. Likewise if you ignore all the other differences in your comparisons, you're an idiot.

Yes you're right. The context of Mittani is different, he was broadcasting it to a large audience with the intention of "wouldn't it be fun to troll this guy to suicide". Mel Gibson got drunk and revealed he's an anti-semite, but as a general statement instead of targeting a specific person. But hey, it's :loleve: so it's fine if he says he's really sorry he got called out on it and then uses his large influence to cyber-bully some blogs who are just reporting what he did.

They should use his name. He said it, not his :lolalterego:

[Lallante]

And Mel Gibson doesn't hate on Jews because he was drunk when he said those nasty things. When he's sober, he's an awesome guy!

I know nuance and context is difficult for some people to understand, but if the question is whether or not he's a 'cyber bully' (or just a bully) the fact that he was drunk does change matters. Likewise if you ignore all the other differences in your comparisons, you're an idiot.

Yes you're right. The context of Mittani is different, he was broadcasting it to a large audience with the intention of "wouldn't it be fun to troll this guy to suicide". Mel Gibson got drunk and revealed he's an anti-semite, but as a general statement instead of targeting a specific person. But hey, it's :loleve: so it's fine if he says he's really sorry he got called out on it and then uses his large influence to cyber-bully some blogs who are just reporting what he did.

They should use his name. He said it, not his :lolalterego:

The difference is its hard if not impossible to believe that Mittens actually wanted or believed it possible that they could collectively troll that guy into suicide. He meant it as a joke, which makes him a drunk, dumb, insensitive prick. But as his apology shows and anyone who has actually had dealings with him could tell you, he isn't actually an evil baby eating cunt who genuinely wants people to kill themselves.

Mel gibson on the other hand is ACTUALLY an anti-semite. The views he expresses while drunk are his true views, not just some drunken showing-off shock humour to his goonfleet of faggot brownnosers.

tl;dr - Mittens can be a douchebag, but he isnt THAT much of a douchebag. He fucked up and went too far with a joke, rather than revealing his "true" evil nature.

[NoirAvlaa]

So? My point is that he should still have his name associated with what he did. He did it in a public, real life forum, then whined and used his collective influence to cyber-bully a blog into changing a factual report and getting the associated blogger a 1 week leave of absence.

Personally I think in game Mittani is a good thing for EVE overall. But I believe that this "joke" was utterly disgusting and he should reap what he sows instead of crying to goons to spam a completely factual report because it used his "omg real name".

[Lallante]

So? My point is that he should still have his name associated with what he did. He did it in a public, real life forum, then whined and used his collective influence to cyber-bully a blog into changing a factual report and getting the associated blogger a 1 week leave of absence.

Personally I think in game Mittani is a good thing for EVE overall. But I believe that this "joke" was utterly disgusting and he should reap what he sows instead of crying to goons to spam a completely factual report because it used his "omg real name".

Basically you are a vindictive, unpleasant cunt who wants Mittens to suffer IN REAL LIFE as revenge for his perceived slights. Aka you are exactly what you claim to hate.

[NoirAvlaa]

So? My point is that he should still have his name associated with what he did. He did it in a public, real life forum, then whined and used his collective influence to cyber-bully a blog into changing a factual report and getting the associated blogger a 1 week leave of absence.

Personally I think in game Mittani is a good thing for EVE overall. But I believe that this "joke" was utterly disgusting and he should reap what he sows instead of crying to goons to spam a completely factual report because it used his "omg real name".

Basically you are a vindictive, unpleasant cunt who wants Mittens to suffer IN REAL LIFE as revenge for his perceived slights. Aka you are exactly what you claim to hate.

"perceived slights"? He told people to actively target a person who he knew was depressed and had suicidal tendencies. If a politician said anything close to that on twitter then what do you think would happen? He'd be able to go "Sorry, I was drunk, and didn't mean it, we're cool right?" and everything would be ok? Mittens did something horrible in real life, he should feel the effects of it in real life. It's as simple as that.

[DevilDude]

So? My point is that he should still have his name associated with what he did. He did it in a public, real life forum, then whined and used his collective influence to cyber-bully a blog into changing a factual report and getting the associated blogger a 1 week leave of absence.

Personally I think in game Mittani is a good thing for EVE overall. But I believe that this "joke" was utterly disgusting and he should reap what he sows instead of crying to goons to spam a completely factual report because it used his "omg real name".

Basically you are a vindictive, unpleasant cunt who wants Mittens to suffer IN REAL LIFE as revenge for his perceived slights. Aka you are exactly what you claim to hate.

"perceived slights"? He told people to actively target a person who he knew was depressed and had suicidal tendencies. If a politician said anything close to that on twitter then what do you think would happen? He'd be able to go "Sorry, I was drunk, and didn't mean it, we're cool right?" and everything would be ok? Mittens did something horrible in real life, he should feel the effects of it in real life. It's as simple as that.

I can't tell if you're trolling, genuinely 'madbro' or simply retarded.

[Bacchanalian]

So? My point is that he should still have his name associated with what he did. He did it in a public, real life forum, then whined and used his collective influence to cyber-bully a blog into changing a factual report and getting the associated blogger a 1 week leave of absence.

Personally I think in game Mittani is a good thing for EVE overall. But I believe that this "joke" was utterly disgusting and he should reap what he sows instead of crying to goons to spam a completely factual report because it used his "omg real name".

Basically you are a vindictive, unpleasant cunt who wants Mittens to suffer IN REAL LIFE as revenge for his perceived slights. Aka you are exactly what you claim to hate.

"perceived slights"? He told people to actively target a person who he knew was depressed and had suicidal tendencies. If a politician said anything close to that on twitter then what do you think would happen? He'd be able to go "Sorry, I was drunk, and didn't mean it, we're cool right?" and everything would be ok? Mittens did something horrible in real life, he should feel the effects of it in real life. It's as simple as that.

Don't worry, after some fucktards gave out Mittens' RL address and the name of his wife and dog, I have no doubt some neckbeard mouthbreathing faggot like yourself will do something utterly daft and fuck with him in RL, thus avenging Mittens' baby eating genocidal poor taste joke that didn't even bother the "victim" that everyone on the internet is so keen to white-knight.

[Bartholomeus Crane]

The thing with cyber-bullying, or cyber-harassment, or vicious trolling is that usually the little shits who do it get away with it because of the anonymity they have on the internets. Well, tough luck for Mittens, but his real name has been out in the public domain ever since he first ran for the CSM. It makes no difference in practice if his name was mentioned in the Massively article or not. Connecting Mittens with his real name is trivial through Google Search. Perhaps he should have thought about that when he decided well in advance that he was going to make his Alliance Panel presentation about the Goons hounding other players so that they'd 'kill themselves'.

Anyway, if this was just a one-off transgression for some stupid drunk guy, I'd say: nothing happened in the end, no need to drag his real name into this.

But it isn't just some stupid drunk guy, nor is it a one-off transgression. Mittens has been doing this kind of loathsome shit for years now, and clearly planned ahead to grab some attention by doing it yet again. Even when he was warned against how tasteless it all is. You can talk about how he's really a nice guy, and about hats and booze and all kinds of things. But those are just excuses. In the end he's just a bully who finally got caught on camera stepping over the line one time too many. And now he has to face the consequences of his actions.

Anyway, Lallante: 0/10