tech moons make the best tissue paperOriginally Posted by Proxay
tech moons make the best tissue paper
Coming in hawt in a couple.
Today on this day two fleets met in the jh-m2w system for a epic battle. our grandchildren will speak of this day when groon won the isk war against ishukraata.
http://droog.rwpcomputers.com/?a=kil...d&kll_id=32821
We had 13 in fleet, but not everyone could get on the dramiel killmail.
I was there. I'm telling you, man. I was there.
I post unofficially but TEST can have more tech moons than FA if they would like to swap space with FA"Already replaced" is their particular brand of smug.
FA has more tech moons than TEST, for reasons that remain unclear to me. (I can only assume that Zagdul's really open-minded in bed.) They can afford to replace all these moronic losses. Meanwhile, us Syndicate locals have to actually spend some time ratting, or trading, or scamming PL members when we lose our ships.
Despite that, I still look at our killboard and grin like an idiot!It's been great fun, let's keep the good fights coming.
TEST has tech moons in Outer Ring so they're clearly OK with 'only being there for the moons'.
Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.
"You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."
yo yo, joined FA a short while ago for my own reasons. the syndicate deployment as far as i can tell is killing time until bloc deployment down south 'soon', syndicate seems to have been picked because it's nearby (so no big move needed for a short op) and likely because no-one could think of anything better to do. FA leadership does a pretty good job of insulating it's members from seeing themselves in a wider context, with the internal propaganda being pretty divorced from events. Which isn't actually an insult, really all i'm saying is FA morale manages to be fairly solid no matter how shit they are and there's little chance of them falling apart any time soon.That's because deployments to Syndicate are usually ill-thought out. Deployments to NPC space are either for moons or to reinvigorate the alliance. Syndicate is a bad place to do either. Fountain or Cloud Ring residents typically own the Syndicate moons and it's not a hard jump to get down there to defend the stuff, and Syndicate residents are almost always semi-skilled PvP groups(albeit small) since the space is so shit for ratting. If the alliance leadership is too stupid to recognize this, then it's usually a good sign the alliance is already dying.More often syndicate is where alliances go to die
phoneposting~
as a side note on FA, if nothing else their comfort in whelping gangs (due to pretty much every ship being free for members) is great for getting people to 'have a go' at FCing. sure you get a lot of shit (unexperienced) FC's wandering around... but given that most places i've lived really struggle to get people to FC then fair play to them.
Looking forward to a writeup on the neo? moon battle that's wrapping up right now. Looks like it was RnK+Pure Madness + a few agony in armor bs and triage, plus a few dreads, mopping the floor with FA's Tempest fleet, until PL showed up with mass supers.
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8263
Last edited by antoine; June 25 2012 at 07:29:16 PM. Reason: added brdoc
Sounds like thats all that needs to be said. Pure madness have been able to win slugfests vs FA on their own. FA are continuing to get dumpstered
phoneposting~
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13771096
Very fun fight; I'll post a BR later.
We jumped on FA on a tower coming out of reinforced; killed dreads and a lot of Tempests, and were able to rep with Pantheon group.
Eventually they batphoned PL, and we moved into the (rapecaged) tower. But just before the tower went down, we initiated a Starburst (password change) and bounced clear of the bubbles and hostile fleet(s) and cyno'd out :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4q_TBYL6lg
Last edited by Lord Maldoror; June 25 2012 at 07:50:45 PM.
I was there, and can confirm that this is an accurate representation of what took place.
OK, that's f'ing brilliant. PL's supers all hovering there, smacking their lips, waiting for the cover to be lifted off the entre by the waiter, only to see the entre hop off the serving plate and skedaddle across the floor and out of the dining room.
They've had bomber fleets who have had some good bomber runs. However, we've still yet to have it out with them 1v1.Sounds like thats all that needs to be said. Pure madness have been able to win slugfests vs FA on their own. FA are continuing to get dumpstered
phoneposting~
Today was absolute fun from our end. The titan who got out at the last minute is literally the luckiest titan I've ever seen. I tabbed over to log a titan in while having it pointed, tabbed back and it was gone. There's going to be a recording of my rage posted somewhere of me being fed up with losing point on shit like that.
We put those dreads on field with the intent to get the RnK caps to get fielded. However, dropped the ball on our end with holding the tackle and getting the 2nd / 3rd cyno up to bring in reinforcement dics/hics.
Again, fun fight. Disappointed we didn't keep the titans tackled as they would be so dead right now.
EDIT: Much respect for actually committing. If we weren't so horrible at holding down titans, you'd have a dead one.
Last edited by FA Zagdul; June 25 2012 at 10:42:33 PM.
You did have a nice straight up fight with Pure Madness here, though: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13721209 . Ineluctable were present on a bombing run and it's possible you were concerned that we might drop you if you dropped UMAD's triage. Nonethless, in terms of what was actually fielded both sides, it's a pretty clean fight with logi blob vs. triage rep.
Maybe, and maybe next time you will kill something big. This time, though, none of our titans were below 100% armour, and may still have starbursted with the rest anyway. In a sense, as soon as you assemble a mixed powerblock supercapital fleet you are by definition always close to killing something, somewhere. The killboards will remember what we actually killed, rather than what you nearly killed. Would it have been different if you'd jumped more of your caps in rather than wait for PL? Perhaps, although perhaps we'd have killed even more in the meantime, so it remains a road perhaps rightly untravelled.
Still, I think your time in these parts has surely been productive. Your FC was right to try and throw everything to hold the supers, even if it hurt the 'isk war', and your pilots certainly were up for the fight. Your logis, in particular, fought very hard and at one point had half a dozen ships in structure to look after and try and hero rep. They didn't give up on anyone and we had to grind the ships down. It's not like you came here for tech: presumably fights, even if not results, like these are exactly what you were after.
A few words of praise for Pure Madness and Agony, too: in the entire engagement they lost only one Abaddon, and that only when there were an enormous number of hostile caps/supers on the field. Broadcasts were clean and perfect and they tanked and dished out damage like collective bosses.
As for the starburst, there's a little clip here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4medDjr-0U
This is the coolest thing I've seen done with creative EVE tactics yet.
Also, when I saw the title and what happened, it reminded me of Ender's Game with the tactics that he employed. +1
Awesome, want moar!
Also, calling it now, soon some scrub alliance will lose a dozen or so caps when they try and do this and royaly fuck it up.
The existence of space means the existence of pirates.
So yesterday, Agony decided to bring out our chalk pipes and Tweed jackets and go roaming again. Had a decent turnout, even: 7 Deimos, 3 Proteus, 4 Oneiros, 1 Loki + some dictors and the inties we love so much. Scouts reported it was a slow night in Syndicate, but since FA are moving out and had 90-100 in local, we figured they might welcome a break from carrier jumps and form a response fleet.
When we got to EF-F, we found a couple of cyno ships sitting outside station, and a lone Naga that decided to burn out towards us to snipe at our dictors. So we warped down and killed him to get their attention: http://www.agony-unleashed.com/killb..._detail/85239/
Nothing seemed to be forming to stave off this grave threat, so we moved back up to C0T while messing with some returning FA BCs and a sniping Tornado that didn't expect to be pointed from 70km off. We are, after all, a teaching organization, so we decided to educate him on what faction points can do from a Proteus: http://www.agony-unleashed.com/killb..._detail/85204/
Any way, we moved up to C0T and got word that a 40-man Tornado fleet was forming in EF-. About 20 Tornados, some Oracles and Drakes and assorted tackle + 5 scimis. We sat up on the P-N gate in C0T, waiting for them to jump into us. They refused, however, so we pretended to flee to 3KNK where we had a dictor set up a catch bubble on the gate. Just after we warped off, they entered local, and I'm assuming their FC told their tackle to go tackle us, because all their light ships and a Huginn landed in our catch bubble. We killed the Huginn and let the small stuff go, wanting to focus on bigger ships. Another catch bubble went up and after a couple of minutes, their Tier 3s landed at 0 on us. We scrammed what we could grab, turtled up with ABs and went to work. Reps were holding but just barely, many ships being pulled out in structure. They kited, we webbed and scrammed and huffed and puffed and worked our way through them one ship at a time. Blasters are pure win up close, btw, nuking through all five scimitar reps without breaking a sweat. The fight lasted about ten minutes, I was jammed (goddamn ECM drones, I had like 40 on me at one time), neuted, primed and repped back from 10% armor a number of times, as were many others. After those ten long minutes, FA decided that discretion was indeed the better part of valor, and warped off leaving a trail of wrecks 330km long. Great fight.
BR: http://www.agony-unleashed.com/killb...related/85218/
Edit: Yeah, they were mostly AC Nados, not Arty. Arty probably would have killed us.
So we decided to loot wrecks while they were still in local, and when we saw them come back on scan, the FC ordered the fleet to warp to a tactical BM. They landed at 0 on one of our slow-to-warp fleetmembers, so we warped down to him for some more action. Unfortunately, most of them warped off before we could bubble and tackle, and we only managed to grab a Drake and a Tornado.
We finished looting and then moved back to 3KNK for a bio as we were facing the very real possibility of a mutiny unless bladders could be emptied and beercans grabbed from fridges. There would be none of that though. Just as we warped to station, scouts reported FA landing on the 3KNK gate again. Our FC ordered us down on gate for more pew-pew, but just as we landed, scouts reported they now had 6 scorpions with them. Seriously. Six. Scorpions. I'm curious as to why they think we would fight a gang with 24-30 gallente jammers in fleet with an all gallente setup, but oh well. We chilled on the gate and then crossjumped them when they came in and aggressed us. Not able to repel jamming power of that magnitude, we warped up to a TAC and hung out. Just as we did, our business associates in UMAD informed us that they were coming down with some scorp-killing Tier 3s, so we figured to give it a go. FA entered C0T and reapproached gate and hung out while UMAD set up in 3KNK. Through some mystery of space magic, someone performed a bombing run on them to force them back into 3KNK. We were a bit slow warping down to gate, and they all managed to warp to station before either we or UMAD could tackle them in 3KNK. Drat that.
So we pretended to camp them in station while taking the aforementioned and much moaned for bio-break. Coming back 10 minutes later, they were still docked, so we gave them and UMAD a wave in local and headed home for our respective wives/mistresses/whiskeys/goats/[enter traditional national recreational activity here], patting each other on the back for a job well done.
I'm going to miss having FA around, it's been fun. Please come back again when you're done burning Delve to the ground.
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxZq0...layer_embedded
Last edited by glepp; June 27 2012 at 08:50:59 PM.
Nice BR & Video (perfect music too). Looks like a fun fight there, Glepp.
Reminded me of the same thing!This is the coolest thing I've seen done with creative EVE tactics yet.
Also, when I saw the title and what happened, it reminded me of Ender's Game with the tactics that he employed. +1
Amazing how long this has been possible, and even done before but always as a screw up.
In hindsight, it's kinda weird that no one ever paired up the Starburst with a lit cyno in another system to escape being trapped. Mad props to RnK, U.MAD, and Agony.
Epic fight in Y9G tonight. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13913151 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13912812
Figl Neo POS was coming out of RF around 0800. It was the Neo moon we took after FA lost all their dreads and anchored to tower to get a fight. Hedo formed up around 40 armor BS with logi + a few Bhaals. Ishkur-rata had a HAC fleet and were helping Figl. They jumped in to Y9G about 30 min before it came out. They docked up. Figl warped to the top of the station. Logi and ECM burned off. Our sabre on station bubbled Hedo up as they undocked. Fight ensued. Neither side was able to break from what I could tell. A few BS and small stuff died. Cyno went up and some carriers + dreads jumped in. Another went up and Ishkur-rata dreads came in. Then some Rote dreads came in. Then the final Cyno went up and Tri-gun jumped in lots dreads. The Rote dreads died on station. But they killed an expensive Bhaal. Bravo for them jumping in. Figl warped off at that point.
The Tri-gun dreads warped to the tower to finish it off. Hedo jumped in more dreads. One of the Moros almost went down but warped off. Our bubbler died.
I am curious to see other sides of the story. But good fights all around.
Last edited by Aliventi; July 7 2012 at 09:31:26 PM. Reason: added other link and switched TISHU for tri-Gun and added some clarity.
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