[PVP] Incursus

[Yankunytjatjara]

IBprom

This is imo, the one and only incursus fit that makes any sense. For rails, tristan and merlin are better. For short range, rifters and tristans outtrack you. If you don't think that tracking is a problem on frigs, pass some time in a frig-heavy environment (rvb/fw).

[Incursus, ab null]

3x Light Neutron Blaster II (Null S)

Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I

1x Hobgoblin II

165 dps overheating, at 3.1k+8.1k, speed just barely over a 200mm plated rifter with the same implants.
Instructions: keep at range 8k, overheat scram and weapons. When he turns, approach, when he turns again, orbit 20 then keep at range 8k. I've killed non slaved non fail rifters using barrage and overloading their ab in this way, but it's always a variable until the very last hull hp... GFGF!

Note that the fit needs hybrid rigging V. If that's a bit too much, and/or you want more dps, dropping to emergency DC removes the need for the algid hybrids and you can drop it and the ambit and gain another dps rig and a t2 ab, at the cost of 300ehp:

[Incursus, ab]

3x Light Neutron Blaster II (Null S)

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Emergency Damage Control I
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

1x Hobgoblin II

Edit: fit above updated for the gallente/hybrid buff. For reference, the old fit was:

[Incursus, null]

3x Light Neutron Blaster II (Null S)

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines
Emergency Damage Control I

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I
Small Ancillary Current Router I

1x Hobgoblin II

[sassy b]

I wouldn't necessarily say merlin and tristan can do rails better. Incursus is more agile for a start. Also, it doesnt need rocket skills.

[Incursus, 125 rail]
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II

X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Warrior II x1

[Suleiman Shouaa]

Laser Incursus, best incursus.

[Incursus, Laz0r bro]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II

1MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Energy Burst Aerator I
Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]


Warrior II x1

Destroys shield rifters which are increasingly becoming more common, at least in low sec. More tracking than a rail Incursus so you can still track even if they get close to you.

[Reneg Destir]

What you need moar tracking for at 8 k I dunno. but come to think of it I never beat Yank in a fair fight.

[Incursus, Stardust]
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I

Hobgoblin II x1

[Podcat]

What you need moar tracking for at 8 k I dunno. but come to think of it I never beat Yank in a fair fight.

he puts it on for falloff

[Tekedo]

[Incursus, bla]
Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

1MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I


Hobgoblin II x1


Theorycrafted this yesterday, still have to put it to practice or train the relevant skills on my current character for that matter.
Plate and Aux Thrusters might seem to counter each other, however a 200mm plate adds about a 1000 EHP and with the aux thruster you will still go about 100m/s faster than a web/scram/ab 200mm plate rifter which in theory is vital to optimally apply your 183 (overheated) dps.

So if anyone actually tries this fit plz give me a shout if it works at all or fails horribly.

[NoThyme Toulouse]

This is kind-of a mash up of Prom's old MWD/Ion fit, and the OP's TE fit. The main attraction for me here is the price tag (right under 3 mil), as I wanted something to hop into that can give me some experience using a MWD fit blaster frig, and not worry too much about losing 50 of them learning.

Grid is a bit tight, so you'll need AWU5 -or- AWU4 and Hybrid rigging 4 to squeeze on the rigs. Will be getting a lot of these blown up in RvB shortly:

[Incursus, Salaryman]

3x Light Ion Blaster II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Emergency Damage Control I
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program

2x Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I

1x Hobgoblin II

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Pseudo or IFFA fits, but again the idea here is cheap, throw away DPS... training wheels for something more expensive down the road.

[prometheus]

This is my standard 00 roaming fit. Upgrade mids/lows according to budget.
180(204) dps with antimatter and standard implants (zgs,cx) and 2400ehjp.

[Incursus, Standard - 00]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Small Armor Repairer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I

Hobgoblin II x1

For low sec there are a ton of options to go with.
400mm with 75s, 200mm with rails or ion/neutron combo.

Don't bother with lasers, 75s or 125s are a better choice 99% of the time.

Obviously though, I prefer the Tristan for low sec.

[NoThyme Toulouse]

Thanks Prom! The 'old fit' I was speaking of was the only thing I could find... on eve-o (couldn't find the fits from the old SHC even cached).

[Yankunytjatjara]

Updated my OP for crucible:

[Incursus, ab null]

3x Light Neutron Blaster II (Null S)

Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I

1x Hobgoblin II

165 dps overheating, at 3.1k+8.1k, speed just barely over a 200mm plated rifter with the same implants.
Instructions: keep at range 8k, overheat scram and weapons. When he turns, approach, when he turns again, orbit 20 then keep at range 8k. I've killed non slaved non fail rifters using barrage and overloading their ab in this way, but it's always a variable until the very last hull hp... GFGF!

Note that the fit needs hybrid rigging V. If that's a bit too much, and/or you want more dps, dropping to emergency DC removes the need for the algid hybrids and you can drop it and the ambit and gain another dps rig and a t2 ab:

[Incursus, ab]

3x Light Neutron Blaster II (Null S)

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Emergency Damage Control I
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

1x Hobgoblin II

[prometheus]

My above fit is still the bees knees for 00.
Only difference is that you can fit a 3rd neutron now

[iced_tea]

[Incursus, Shield/Electrons]

Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Shield Extender II

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Hobgoblin II x1

[Incursus, Nano/125mm]

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Hobgoblin II x1

[Incursus, SAR/Ions]

Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II

Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Hobgoblin II x1

[Not Drake Iddon]

[Incursus, Shield/Electrons]

Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Shield Extender II

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Hobgoblin II x1

How well does this work? Electrons have so little range i'd see this struggling without a web, although the EHP is pretty nice for a t1 frig.

[iced_tea]

[Incursus, Shield/Electrons]

Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Shield Extender II

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Hobgoblin II x1

How well does this work? Electrons have so little range i'd see this struggling without a web, although the EHP is pretty nice for a t1 frig.

Funnily enough I prefer to it any other fit I've tried. If you come up against something that wants to kite you within scram range and has a web, null and the nano are usually enough to counter.

[LS.]

[Incursus, Nano/125mm]

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Hobgoblin II x1

tbh i'd say an overdrive is better here, your already rather agile and you wont be depleting your dcu tank

[iced_tea]

[Incursus, Nano/125mm]

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Hobgoblin II x1

tbh i'd say an overdrive is better here, your already rather agile and you wont be depleting your dcu tank

Interesting you say that, I prefer the nano on the 125mm because the acceleration helps to keep you at optimal constantly when they try maneuvering to get close and extra max speed isn't really needed when you have the AB scram and web to keep them at bay, however thinking about it an OD would almost certainly be better on the shield fit.

[prometheus]

Really do not like rail fits on this ship, Tristan does them SO much better.
You simply don't have the eHP/DPS ratio to pull it off

[Lady Spank]

I dunno, rail fits are ok... but ambit + null works better imo. Might as well use the ships bonuses.

[iced_tea]

Really do not like rail fits on this ship, Tristan does them SO much better.
You simply don't have the eHP/DPS ratio to pull it off

A Tristan would be nice but unfortunately I have no missile skills and don't really care to train them atm, but what about this then:

[Incursus, Shield/125mm]

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I

Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Hobgoblin II x1

3 ACRs seems silly but it's got about average frig dps, the ability to kite and mitigate CQ damage along with 4.3k EHP. Doesn't seem too bad but ofc will have to test and see.

I dunno, rail fits are ok... but ambit + null works better imo. Might as well use the ships bonuses.

You are using the ships bonuses when using rails...The falloff means you can begin damaging enroute to the target at ~14km rather than having to wait until ~6km for blasters with null. If you're travelling at ~1200m/s that's about 5-6 seconds of damage you've done before blasters would be turned on and this is rather advantageous in frig fights where the smallest amount of damage can dictate the outcome of the battle. Then there's the fact you don't even have to fight in say, a Rifter's damage range providing you can adequately kite them - which is why the original fit had no tank mods but a web and nano to keep the damage off.

[prometheus]

You do not have a tracking advantage, any success beyond tackle range is not really something you can rely on