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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    Does someone have a recommendation for a quiet 2070 super they would like to share? My current card may be dead, and if it is dead and needs to be replaced, then I'd like to trace some rays. I have so far compiled a quick shortlist for quiet cards over the course of five minutes:

    - Palit GeForce RTX 2070 Super JS (https://www.hexus.net/tech/reviews/g...er-js/?page=11)
    - MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X TRIO
    - MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X (not TRIO, https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,23.html)

    Any other suggestions?
    Problem with Ray Tracing, it is either poorly implemented or too resource demanding.
    Even the mighty 2080ti struggles to do all the eye-porn+ray tracing.
    Unless they can optimize it by a lot, 2070 is likely to be too weak to do it justice.
    2070 super is fine for Raytracing in most things

    And it's demanding because... Well... It is

    Control is the first game that really shows how good it can look, mind. But more is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    Does someone have a recommendation for a quiet 2070 super they would like to share? My current card may be dead, and if it is dead and needs to be replaced, then I'd like to trace some rays. I have so far compiled a quick shortlist for quiet cards over the course of five minutes:

    - Palit GeForce RTX 2070 Super JS (https://www.hexus.net/tech/reviews/g...er-js/?page=11)
    - MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X TRIO
    - MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X (not TRIO, https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,23.html)

    Any other suggestions?
    Problem with Ray Tracing, it is either poorly implemented or too resource demanding.
    Even the mighty 2080ti struggles to do all the eye-porn+ray tracing.
    Unless they can optimize it by a lot, 2070 is likely to be too weak to do it justice.
    NVIDIA is also using a specific implementation of raytracing, but developers seem to be saying "Yeah, that's not how we were planning on doing raytracing. It's useful, but not ideal."

    It worth waiting to see if developers start moving toward DirectX methods rather than one particular architecture.
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    PS5 will have hardware acceleration for Raytracing and is amd based. Been confirmed in interviews iirc.

    I think that's likely a resounding yes.

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    They will move towards whatever will be used in consoles. So not resounding, as we don't know anything about ps5 apis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    They will move towards whatever will be used in consoles. So not resounding, as we don't know anything about ps5 apis.
    Both Xbox and PS5 are amd based, roughly same tech, and Xbox is owned by Microsoft who is pushing massively for multiplatform.

    Whatever it is it's absolutely not going to be Nvidia specific and is very much likely going to be generic to all, and outside directx the only really widespread one is Vulcan.

    Now, Sony could always go the ps3 route and go completely weird (doubt due to architecture and backwards compatibility) but doubt. They could always go for Sony specific Raytracing and I wouldn't put it past Sony to try it i guess, but i don't see it really happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    Does someone have a recommendation for a quiet 2070 super they would like to share? My current card may be dead, and if it is dead and needs to be replaced, then I'd like to trace some rays. I have so far compiled a quick shortlist for quiet cards over the course of five minutes:

    - Palit GeForce RTX 2070 Super JS (https://www.hexus.net/tech/reviews/g...er-js/?page=11)
    - MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X TRIO
    - MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X (not TRIO, https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,23.html)

    Any other suggestions?
    Strangely my computer has decided to cooperate again at least for now. I would still appreciate suggestions for quiet 2070 super cards if you have any, since I don't believe in self-healing computers.

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    From what i read MSI trio is the quietest but slightly hotter.

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    I looked at the prices there in swedenland, the gap between 2070 Super and 2080 (non-ti/super) is remarkably low.

    I see 2070 Super, from 620 -> 740 euro
    2080 from 820 -> 880 euro
    2080 Super from 860 -> 1100 euro

    Try looking for a non-reference 2080 card.
    The Epic Store is amazing, I've been able to save so much money by not buying their games.

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    That's pmuch 100+ eur difference. Not an insignificant jump for a not so significant performance jump.

    Unless chasing 4k or sth i wouldn't bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    I looked at the prices there in swedenland, the gap between 2070 Super and 2080 (non-ti/super) is remarkably low.

    I see 2070 Super, from 620 -> 740 euro
    2080 from 820 -> 880 euro
    2080 Super from 860 -> 1100 euro

    Try looking for a non-reference 2080 card.
    I was thinking about a 2080 - I have a 1440p ultrawide display. The price increase between the MSI trio versions would be fine at the moment (60), the price difference between the "duo" MSI GAMING X 2070 and the 2080 trio is steeper at 100. I have in the past not been too bothered whether I get medium or high detail levels, but on the other hand I do have too much spare money at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    I looked at the prices there in swedenland, the gap between 2070 Super and 2080 (non-ti/super) is remarkably low.

    I see 2070 Super, from 620 -> 740 euro
    2080 from 820 -> 880 euro
    2080 Super from 860 -> 1100 euro

    Try looking for a non-reference 2080 card.
    I was thinking about a 2080 - I have a 1440p ultrawide display. The price increase between the MSI trio versions would be fine at the moment (60), the price difference between the "duo" MSI GAMING X 2070 and the 2080 trio is steeper at 100. I have in the past not been too bothered whether I get medium or high detail levels, but on the other hand I do have too much spare money at the moment.
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    The Epic Store is amazing, I've been able to save so much money by not buying their games.

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    I had an aftermarket cooler on a card previously and that was great, but they take up a lot of slots on the board. And also I just got a new case with a side panel window and if you have that and a weird looking aftermarket cooler ruins it all and then the neighbours drop by and they are all friendly to your face but you just know that the moment they leave they will go "well the house was alright but did you see that cooler I mean what are they thinking they don't belong here" and then all the other neighbours stop greeting you back and one night suddenly your house is on fire and only then you find out that your aftermarket cooler is not good enough to cool the entire house and you might end up regretting your purchase in the end.

    I'll think about it though, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    I looked at the prices there in swedenland, the gap between 2070 Super and 2080 (non-ti/super) is remarkably low.

    I see 2070 Super, from 620 -> 740 euro
    2080 from 820 -> 880 euro
    2080 Super from 860 -> 1100 euro

    Try looking for a non-reference 2080 card.
    This is why I ended up getting a 2080.

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    I could get an MSI 2070 Super Gaming X for 510 and an MSI 2080 Gaming X Trio for 620. It is a bit difficult for me to judge how much better than a 2070 Super a 2080 is.

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    If you're using a 1080p/1440p monitor I doubt you'd ever notice anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    If you're using a 1080p/1440p monitor I doubt you'd ever notice anything.
    But what to do with my 1440p ultrawide? Oh the dilemma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    If you're using a 1080p/1440p monitor I doubt you'd ever notice anything.
    But what to do with my 1440p ultrawide? Oh the dilemma.
    1440p UW is about 1/3 of the way towards 4k from 1440p resolution when it comes to pixels no? Should be easy enough to gauge when comparing some 1440p and 4k benchmarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    If you're using a 1080p/1440p monitor I doubt you'd ever notice anything.
    But what to do with my 1440p ultrawide? Oh the dilemma.
    1440p UW is about 1/3 of the way towards 4k from 1440p resolution when it comes to pixels no? Should be easy enough to gauge when comparing some 1440p and 4k benchmarks.
    Sort of: 4k: 8294400px, UW1440p: 5529600px, 1440p: 3686400px

    I usually buy mid range, so I'll probably go with the 2070 Super in the end (by way of procrastinating until the 2080 sells out).

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    Does ray tracing feel a little gratuitous for anyone else for vidya games? I can't imagine ray tracing looking better than high res meshes/textures/mappings for the same resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaztick View Post
    Does ray tracing feel a little gratuitous for anyone else for vidya games? I can't imagine ray tracing looking better than high res meshes/textures/mappings for the same resources.
    Yeah like mate you won't get to choose in a couple of years, it's gonna be the go-to lighting tech.

    Besides i can't think of a game where better lighting didn't enhance the picture more than higher resolution assets.
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