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    Go for XB271HUA

    TN panels are good enough, I fully agree with you on the importance of high refresh rates and gsync.
    It costs, but it's such a good QoL investment.

    Got the XB241H as my secondary screen, I'm not disappointed for the price I paid.
    My IPS screen got way better colors, but it also cost 6x

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    Looks like he can get it for around 680 AUD? https://www.pbtech.com/au/product/MO...n?qr=shopbotau
    Remember to use DP, I think that works better with high refresh rate then HDMI.
    And set the higher HZ in the monitor settings in Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by root View Post
    Would a medicore PC or playing high end games not benefit the most from a good "gaming" Monitor with *-sync? Because it still looks decent even when it drops below native refresh rate.
    One of the problems is that G-sync is insanely expensive. It's not that hard to get nice Freesync panels for a fair price, even IPS, but the G-sync monitors aren't in the same price bracket. And once you pay that much for a monitor you'll want >100 Hz and such too for that price, but that makes it even more expensive, etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by root View Post
    Looks like he can get it for around 680 AUD? https://www.pbtech.com/au/product/MO...n?qr=shopbotau
    Remember to use DP, I think that works better with high refresh rate then HDMI.
    And set the higher HZ in the monitor settings in Windows.
    No idea who that lot are but I can get it locally for not much more and not have to wait 2 weeks for it to turn up.. If I remember rightly all of the monitors came with a dp cable and I have 3 unused ports on the back of my card, so yeah that was the plan
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    Quote Originally Posted by root View Post
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    Do you have the CPU and GPU (and low latency internet, given lolstralia) to match driving that game at the native res & high Hz of your proposed panels?
    Would a medicore PC or playing high end games not benefit the most from a good "gaming" Monitor with *-sync? Because it still looks decent even when it drops below native refresh rate.
    AFAIK you'd avoid tearing, and avoid the GPU generating more spare buffers than other tearing-avoid methods (if it were able to generate spares), but if for a given native res your PC can't deliver a nice FPS, you're not going to magically get a nice FPS. Just no tearing between your stop-frame animation visuals. So you still need to generate a reliable ~30FPS @ 1440p/whatever you choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
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    Do you have the CPU and GPU (and low latency internet, given lolstralia) to match driving that game at the native res & high Hz of your proposed panels?
    Would a medicore PC or playing high end games not benefit the most from a good "gaming" Monitor with *-sync? Because it still looks decent even when it drops below native refresh rate.
    AFAIK you'd avoid tearing, and avoid the GPU generating more spare buffers than other tearing-avoid methods (if it were able to generate spares), but if for a given native res your PC can't deliver a nice FPS, you're not going to magically get a nice FPS. Just no tearing between your stop-frame animation visuals. So you still need to generate a reliable ~30FPS @ 1440p/whatever you choose.
    Then why do people say that thanks to *sync their games still looks fluent even if the fps dramatically fluctuates between ~45 - 160hz?
    And yes, you still need something that can deliver minimum *sync HZ rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by root View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Do you have the CPU and GPU (and low latency internet, given lolstralia) to match driving that game at the native res & high Hz of your proposed panels?
    Would a medicore PC or playing high end games not benefit the most from a good "gaming" Monitor with *-sync? Because it still looks decent even when it drops below native refresh rate.
    AFAIK you'd avoid tearing, and avoid the GPU generating more spare buffers than other tearing-avoid methods (if it were able to generate spares), but if for a given native res your PC can't deliver a nice FPS, you're not going to magically get a nice FPS. Just no tearing between your stop-frame animation visuals. So you still need to generate a reliable ~30FPS @ 1440p/whatever you choose.
    Then why do people say that thanks to *sync their games still looks fluent even if the fps dramatically fluctuates between ~45 - 160hz?
    And yes, you still need something that can deliver minimum *sync HZ rate.
    Because a low FPS is normally associated with either tearing without v-sync or stuttering and high lag with v-sync.

    *sync allows the GPU to put every finished frame on the monitor immediately, eliminating a lot of lag. You can still see it's at low fps, but the frame arrived immediately without artificial delays due to buffering, so it keeps feeling smooth(ish) no matter how low your FPS goes. Yes even 20fps can look okayish.

    Also, with *sync running at say 30 fps gives you a far better experience than when running at ~50 fps with v-sync on, because v-sync will switch between being locked to 30fps or 60fps all the time (on a 60Hz monitor). And you don't have any tearing, so it looks better than ~50 fps without v-sync too.

    Also also, you don't need to actually reach minimum *sync Hz rate if your *sync supports frame doubling/tripling/etc. G-sync has always done that IIRC, and with FreeSync you need a monitor with a maximum Hz that is >2.5 the minimum Hz. Note that several monitors can be over/underclocked outside their stated range, I'm doing 30-85 Hz on a 40-75 Hz FreeSync monitor, to be over the 2.5x difference.
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    I'll chip in about the Asus PG279Q. It has both GSync and ULMB (the latter is an antighosting thingie that makes use of the strobing backlight). I noticed ghosting in all modes (GSync, normal 144/165Hz and ULMB 120Hz) and this was in lol World of Warships.

    So ymmv but ghosting is unavoidable with plane switching panels (IPS, PVA). Probably is ok with TN displays, idk.

    But if you want good colours and no ghosting and a decent price tag, we're not there just yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    But if you want good colours and no ghosting and a decent price tag, we're not there just yet.
    Pretty much. It's possible to get ghosting down to a barely noticeable level using a very fast refresh (>200Hz) overdriven TN panel with a strobing backlight, but the image quality on panels like that is miserable and overshoot is usually bad enough to be a bigger problem than ghosting. Plus the backlight strobing reduces maximum brightness quite a lot.

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    I think I've adjusted to the point where I don't actually notice ghosting, it helps that the "fastest" game I play is Overwatch

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