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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    Fuck me is there any reasonably priced Android phone that doesn't have some horrible compromise? Samsung and their bloatware, HTC and their not knowing what the fuck to do, Sony and their total lack of support after 3 months, everyone else and their shit cameras.

    FUCK
    R U retarded or memeing from 2010 m8?

    xperia z3c was launched in September 2014. Latest/last? firmware update (marshmallow) was 2nd half 2016.

    It would've gotten nougat but Qualcomm refused to supply snapdragon 800/801 drivers for Nougat.

    Sony is one of fastest manufacturers with updates nowadays.
    They also let me you unlock the bootloader freely, albeit with some caveats(some of their DRM features are lost)

    They're still overpriced though.
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    ye my xperia seems to push an update every other week. lovely lovely camera too, and i like the metal casing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    Fuck me is there any reasonably priced Android phone that doesn't have some horrible compromise? Samsung and their bloatware, HTC and their not knowing what the fuck to do, Sony and their total lack of support after 3 months, everyone else and their shit cameras.

    FUCK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    Fuck me is there any reasonably priced Android phone that doesn't have some horrible compromise? Samsung and their bloatware, HTC and their not knowing what the fuck to do, Sony and their total lack of support after 3 months, everyone else and their shit cameras.
    As sad as it is, that's why I went for the Google Nexus (5x currently). No bloatware, frequent & timely updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    Fuck me is there any reasonably priced Android phone that doesn't have some horrible compromise? Samsung and their bloatware, HTC and their not knowing what the fuck to do, Sony and their total lack of support after 3 months, everyone else and their shit cameras.
    As sad as it is, that's why I went for the Google Nexus (5x currently). No bloatware, frequent & timely updates.
    It's great for a midrange phone tbh, camera's great for what it is and it's just wonderful all around. Also liking the fact it's not huge. Also possibly cheap as hell these days.

    For high end stuff there's the Pixel now though, last i checked that was pretty decent all around and still keeps those perks, no? Never seen one in the wild though so got no actual idea.

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    Honestly after a few months with the HTC One I'm a bit meh. I love it's small but that's also the issue with it, love the 6S Plus screen size. Also the Photos app is atrocious and albeit it can shoot RAW there are issues with processing with Snapseed because the colours are off and the screen is small (thus controlling the sliders is more difficult). Camera has manual controls so that's nice.

    I think I got used to a bigger screen and that's not horrible but it comes with caveats.

    Hence my project to make the BlackBerry torch my main phone and use the Fuji X100T as my all around camera. On one hand it takes away options (pull the phone or pull the camera out if there's a photo worth taking) and it culls down on the instagratifications mayhem of "omg poast it nao on social media".

    Tldr I love having that much processing power in my pocket but it usually takes me away from taking in surroundings, makes it difficult to socialise (it's much easier to pull your phone out than strike a conversation with the person sitting next to you in line at the music store) and flows you into the instagratifications crap that's sweeping people away from people. Not to mention the phone manufacturer and Google's prying into one's life. Yes, going to cull on my drop box use or at least move my stuff into encrypted disk images. Having private pictures uploaded is fine, when they're indexed, face recognized and offered to search engines it becomes a tad creepy.

    Will poast back with results of this, atm I can't use BlackBerry desktop manager on my Mac due to the OS upgrades and the fact that BlackBerry is dead this no updates.


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    What is this, faux nostalgic hipster manifesto time?

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    I am looking for a new android phone, one of the flagships/ high spec. My last phones have been HTC One M7 and then M9 and I was generally happy with them apart from bloatwear from HTC and the network. This time I'm going sim-only to avoid the latter.

    I've looked at the pixel but I cant find anywhere selling a 128gb silver one in the UK. Google store is sold out too. No indication of wait time. The huge top/bottom bezel also looks pretty ugly / outdated.

    I would consider S8 too (it looks gorgeous) but bloatwear is an issue presumably. Will it explode? Where can I even get one simfree in the UK?

    What's important to me? I'm a generalist so no one feature in particular - games and video a bit, maybe i'll dabble in VR maybe not. Lots of browsing, some minor photography.

    Any suggestions?

    Also is rooting worth it? What are the benefits/costs?


    Finally I would very much like a wireless charging setup I can have on my bedside table - I've never had a phone with wireless charging before. What is a good charger for this? Any risks leaving a device in range for too long?
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    Yeah I have similar questions. Old Nexus 4 still working fine for me so am being fussy. Love pure android, the old nexus devices were very reasonable priced - but Pixel is way too expensive to justify upgrading. Could hang on till N4 dies and get a pixel second-hand by then?

    Samsung has best hardware, but I won't consider them at all because of their software. Rooting and custom roms are fun for everyone to play with, but you will get bored fast and they offer nothing of value really (note comparison based on running pure android with a nexus).

    Have been looking at Xiaomi and Huawei's offerings. Was trying to get a Xiaomi Mi5s around xmas but could only find Mi5 in shitty color really. Too much hassle to order direct from China with customs etc. Huawei P9 also looks decent and has good price. Of course these are probably obsolete now (P10 already out!?).

    Regarding wireless charging: Doesn't seem like something I give a single fuck about tbh. I have a micro-usb cable on my bedside table - so what? With a wireless charger you still have a wire there I guess plugging charger in is so automatic I don't even notice anymore.
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    get the re-release of the 3310 m8s

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    Magnetic charging cable > wireless charging

    All of the benefits, none of the downsides. Costs 15 bucks.

    Also Lall check the last couple pages. Between the rants and autism almost all of your questions have been answered. Nowadays I'm partial to Sony because of the reasons allready stated. Ip68, great cam, sleek design, non retarded resolution screens(seriously who the fuck needs more than 1080p on a 5" screen), fast updates, almost stock Android.


    Why root?
    UI mods and adblocker (Google ads, YouTube ads)
    Greenify and Amplify can also be greatly improve battery life if you go all in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Magnetic charging cable > wireless charging

    All the of the benefits, none of the downsides. Costs 15 bucks.

    Also Lall check the last couple pages. Between the rants and autism almost all of your questions have been answered. Nowadays I'm partial to Sony because of the reasons allready stated. Ip68, great cam, sleek design, non retarded resolution screens(seriously who the fuck needs more than 1080p on a 5" screen), fast updates, almost stock Android.


    Why root?
    UI mods and adblocker (Google ads, YouTube ads)
    Greenify and Amplify can also be greatly improve battery life if you go all in.
    Trying to find the bloatware on my work J5 or one of our Tab A's nope, not there other than the google apps and a few that are actually usefull S Planner Calculator etc.
    My J5 gets charged perhaps 2 times a week, I only have a few calls and i don't use it for anything else though that's what I use my Note 3 for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balistic void View Post
    Regarding wireless charging: Doesn't seem like something I give a single fuck about tbh. I have a micro-usb cable on my bedside table - so what? With a wireless charger you still have a wire there I guess plugging charger in is so automatic I don't even notice anymore.
    My bedside lamp has the QI charger built into it. No extra cable. It's from Ikea so easy to get (but actually not that super cheap).

    Anyway yeah stock Android would be nice. Had a Nexus 4 for a long time, was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Also is rooting worth it? What are the benefits/costs?
    Rooting is so you can change stuff you normally can't. The most obvious have been stated already, ad blockers and UI modifications. The whole battery thing is a massive rabbit hole, better to never go that route IMHO. Although some battery reporting apps can give you more info when they have root, which you can use to identify misbehaving apps, that is fairly handy. Non-root still gives plenty of info these days though.

    The downsides are that you'll need to tinker with it much more to keep it all working, and that you compromise security of your phone to an extent (apps with root permission can do whatever the fuck they want without you ever noticing, including installing rootkits etc). You'll get less "it just works" and more "oh it stopped working with this update so now I'll have to find/wait for a solution".

    My opinion is that the attractiveness of rooting has been fading for years now. If you look at Android several years ago some of it's UI choices were pretty bad and needed fixing, but Android has become much much better over the years. I've rooted and custom ROMd all of my phones so far, but the number of modifications I've made has been steadily declining. A month ago I bought a phone that doesn't have a rootkit yet and no custom ROM support and so far I haven't really missed it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Magnetic charging cable > wireless charging

    All the of the benefits, none of the downsides. Costs 15 bucks.

    Also Lall check the last couple pages. Between the rants and autism almost all of your questions have been answered. Nowadays I'm partial to Sony because of the reasons allready stated. Ip68, great cam, sleek design, non retarded resolution screens(seriously who the fuck needs more than 1080p on a 5" screen), fast updates, almost stock Android.


    Why root?
    UI mods and adblocker (Google ads, YouTube ads)
    Greenify and Amplify can also be greatly improve battery life if you go all in.
    Trying to find the bloatware on my work J5 or one of our Tab A's nope, not there other than the google apps and a few that are actually usefull S Planner Calculator etc.
    My J5 gets charged perhaps 2 times a week, I only have a few calls and i don't use it for anything else though that's what I use my Note 3 for.
    The entire samsung Rom and launcher is bloatware. Thatsthejoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overspark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Also is rooting worth it? What are the benefits/costs?
    Rooting is so you can change stuff you normally can't. The most obvious have been stated already, ad blockers and UI modifications. The whole battery thing is a massive rabbit hole, better to never go that route IMHO. Although some battery reporting apps can give you more info when they have root, which you can use to identify misbehaving apps, that is fairly handy. Non-root still gives plenty of info these days though.

    The downsides are that you'll need to tinker with it much more to keep it all working, and that you compromise security of your phone to an extent (apps with root permission can do whatever the fuck they want without you ever noticing, including installing rootkits etc). You'll get less "it just works" and more "oh it stopped working with this update so now I'll have to find/wait for a solution".

    My opinion is that the attractiveness of rooting has been fading for years now. If you look at Android several years ago some of it's UI choices were pretty bad and needed fixing, but Android has become much much better over the years. I've rooted and custom ROMd all of my phones so far, but the number of modifications I've made has been steadily declining. A month ago I bought a phone that doesn't have a rootkit yet and no custom ROM support and so far I haven't really missed it.
    I really miss being able to open the clock or alarm by touching it in the notification bar.
    Also being able to turn on the torch by long press of power or volume buttons. It's little things really.

    Currently I cba to root my new Xperia X Performance. From what I've read it's a bit of a PITA on Nougat. Plus I'd have to unlock the bootloader and that kills DRM stuff unless you also go custom kernel route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Overspark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Also is rooting worth it? What are the benefits/costs?
    Rooting is so you can change stuff you normally can't. The most obvious have been stated already, ad blockers and UI modifications. The whole battery thing is a massive rabbit hole, better to never go that route IMHO. Although some battery reporting apps can give you more info when they have root, which you can use to identify misbehaving apps, that is fairly handy. Non-root still gives plenty of info these days though.

    The downsides are that you'll need to tinker with it much more to keep it all working, and that you compromise security of your phone to an extent (apps with root permission can do whatever the fuck they want without you ever noticing, including installing rootkits etc). You'll get less "it just works" and more "oh it stopped working with this update so now I'll have to find/wait for a solution".

    My opinion is that the attractiveness of rooting has been fading for years now. If you look at Android several years ago some of it's UI choices were pretty bad and needed fixing, but Android has become much much better over the years. I've rooted and custom ROMd all of my phones so far, but the number of modifications I've made has been steadily declining. A month ago I bought a phone that doesn't have a rootkit yet and no custom ROM support and so far I haven't really missed it.
    I really miss being able to open the clock or alarm by touching it in the notification bar.
    Also being able to turn on the torch by long press of power or volume buttons. It's little things really.

    Currently I cba to root my new Xperia X Performance. From what I've read it's a bit of a PITA on Nougat. Plus I'd have to unlock the bootloader and that kills DRM stuff unless you also go custom kernel route.
    LG G6 can turn on the flashlight (or anything you want really) by doubleclicking volume up with the screen off thanks to the Key Plus app. If it didn't my urge to root would be a lot larger than it is right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overspark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Also is rooting worth it? What are the benefits/costs?
    Rooting is so you can change stuff you normally can't. The most obvious have been stated already, ad blockers and UI modifications. The whole battery thing is a massive rabbit hole, better to never go that route IMHO. Although some battery reporting apps can give you more info when they have root, which you can use to identify misbehaving apps, that is fairly handy. Non-root still gives plenty of info these days though.

    The downsides are that you'll need to tinker with it much more to keep it all working, and that you compromise security of your phone to an extent (apps with root permission can do whatever the fuck they want without you ever noticing, including installing rootkits etc). You'll get less "it just works" and more "oh it stopped working with this update so now I'll have to find/wait for a solution".

    My opinion is that the attractiveness of rooting has been fading for years now. If you look at Android several years ago some of it's UI choices were pretty bad and needed fixing, but Android has become much much better over the years. I've rooted and custom ROMd all of my phones so far, but the number of modifications I've made has been steadily declining. A month ago I bought a phone that doesn't have a rootkit yet and no custom ROM support and so far I haven't really missed it.


    And now for something completely different:

    man I think the galaxy was the one I most consistently disliked in that, the colours just seem off to what i'd expect irl in a day like that

    Pixel won considerably for me, with G6 being the second.

    Huh.

    Pretty cool comparison gotta say.

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    Also pixel.

    And Lol Samsung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Also pixel.

    And Lol Samsung.

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    I just hate how they're basically putting a filter on the photos by default by modifying the colours. If I want to do that, put a filter on or whatever, *I* want to do it, the way I want to.

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